Anyone here opting their kids out of sex ed in Virginia?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The proposed changes have not been voted on yet by the school board. They delayed it. The proposed changes include the ludicrous assigned female and male at birth along with no longer separating genders. No thanks.

Again, that terminology (assigned male or female at birth) has been used by FCPS through the entire 2022-2023 school year, making it oficial as early as last year. Go back to last years’ school correspondence and you’ll see it. It is there!

They might have used it when talking about ideas for future changes and when speaking with adults but it was absolutely not part of any curriculum presented to children in 22-23. To imply otherwise is a lie.

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Anonymous wrote:You "can't deal" with exactly which positions? The ones that inform children that there are adults on this earth that act and look all different ways? That sometimes things are binary? That we shouldn't hate people because of how the act in the bedroom (where you most likely are NOT present) or how they dress?

Your kid will learn about puberty and that it's ok to have 2 moms. Relax.

Yes, I totally recognize that I'm an outlier in the group on this, but I just don't think elementary school kids need to be learning about all of the trans/non-binary stuff. In any event, we'll cover it when DD is bigger.

They don’t learn that in elementary. Read the state curriculum before you make stupid decisions and make stupid comments.

But using the language "assigned at birth" invites kids to question "what does that mean?".....and just because you don't agree with someone doesn't make them stupid or their comment stupid.

I guarantee you that no elementary student is going to pick up on that nuance of language.

And if they did . . . . then explain it to them. It's really not that hard. You can inject your personal biases, however ignorant they are, into said explanation if you wish.

God, when did parents become such fu---ing cowards about talking to their kids?

By 4th grade, they are hearing/seeing things that would shock you. They are.

If you ever have kids, feel free to discuss with them any topics of your preference. If you wish, you can even invoke Moloch, the god of pedophilia and bestiality with them. Meanwhile, you don’t get to decide for other parents what, when, or how they talk to their kids about certain topics - if at all.

+1 Can I got an Amen?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We will be opting out.

I don't care for the "sex assigned at birth" language for the younger grades.

Why not? It’s accurate. And certainly more precise.

What you “care for” isn’t relevant anyway. You’re only a parent — leave the education of your children to professionals. Your opinions about this don’t matter at all. Stay in your lane.

It’s neither accurate nor precise. Sex is observed at birth, not assigned.

Well, that magical dude in the sky you think exist assigned it. Maybe that will help you come to terms.

Good Lord, you’re all worked up about semantics. Why do you CARE so much? It literally doesn’t affect you.

Smarter people than you have decided this is the proper way to teach this material. So just sit down and shut up. You are beyond annoying and incredibly offensive.

Yeah, you’re not really making a good case here. You sound like a whiny teenager, quite frankly. Using the words “beyond”? and telling posters to “Sit down and shut up”?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where exactly can one see this “assigned at birth” language used in the elementary curriculum? FCPS follows the state curriculum verbatim. So are you saying that the Republican-led government (and VDOE) changed the curriculum? Or do you have access to some new curriculum that FCPS is using?

If you have children in FCPS you most certainly have received correspondence from the county using this new gender identity terminology. In fact, the latest survey sent to parents last fall on the proposed FLE changes uses it exclusively.

This was the recommendation for last year’s curriculum:
SY2022 - 23 Family Life Education Curriculum Advisory Committee (FLECAC) Consideration
In 2022 - 23 FLECAC should explore and recommend changes regarding inclusion of the gender spectrum in the elementary FLE curriculum and a more overall inclusive curriculum in Family Life Education.

The entire document:
https://www.fcps.edu/node/33908

So, I see that’s what the-powers-that-be are recommending or suggesting. Has this been approved? Will this be the curriculum this year? If not, then why opt-out your kid this year unless you were going to do it anyway, regardless of the actual curriculum. To say you are opting out this year because of future proposed language is disingenuous.

Fcps voted in the “assigned at birth” language back in 2018. It was part of a group of changes that the majority of public responses objected to, but they approved it anyway.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AYKU7H699ED9/$file/FLECAC%20Annual%20Recommendations%20Report%202017_18_051018g.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where exactly can one see this “assigned at birth” language used in the elementary curriculum? FCPS follows the state curriculum verbatim. So are you saying that the Republican-led government (and VDOE) changed the curriculum? Or do you have access to some new curriculum that FCPS is using?

If you have children in FCPS you most certainly have received correspondence from the county using this new gender identity terminology. In fact, the latest survey sent to parents last fall on the proposed FLE changes uses it exclusively.

This was the recommendation for last year’s curriculum:
SY2022 - 23 Family Life Education Curriculum Advisory Committee (FLECAC) Consideration
In 2022 - 23 FLECAC should explore and recommend changes regarding inclusion of the gender spectrum in the elementary FLE curriculum and a more overall inclusive curriculum in Family Life Education.

The entire document:
https://www.fcps.edu/node/33908

So, I see that’s what the-powers-that-be are recommending or suggesting. Has this been approved? Will this be the curriculum this year? If not, then why opt-out your kid this year unless you were going to do it anyway, regardless of the actual curriculum. To say you are opting out this year because of future proposed language is disingenuous.

Fcps voted in the “assigned at birth” language back in 2018. It was part of a group of changes that the majority of public responses objected to, but they approved it anyway.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AYKU7H699ED9/$file/FLECAC%20Annual%20Recommendations%20Report%202017_18_051018g.pdf

And I recommend reading Appendix B, from the dissenting members of the committee.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where exactly can one see this “assigned at birth” language used in the elementary curriculum? FCPS follows the state curriculum verbatim. So are you saying that the Republican-led government (and VDOE) changed the curriculum? Or do you have access to some new curriculum that FCPS is using?

If you have children in FCPS you most certainly have received correspondence from the county using this new gender identity terminology. In fact, the latest survey sent to parents last fall on the proposed FLE changes uses it exclusively.

This was the recommendation for last year’s curriculum:
SY2022 - 23 Family Life Education Curriculum Advisory Committee (FLECAC) Consideration
In 2022 - 23 FLECAC should explore and recommend changes regarding inclusion of the gender spectrum in the elementary FLE curriculum and a more overall inclusive curriculum in Family Life Education.

The entire document:
https://www.fcps.edu/node/33908

So, I see that’s what the-powers-that-be are recommending or suggesting. Has this been approved? Will this be the curriculum this year? If not, then why opt-out your kid this year unless you were going to do it anyway, regardless of the actual curriculum. To say you are opting out this year because of future proposed language is disingenuous.

Are you a parent in FCPS? If so, you must have noticed that this language has already been used for over a year.

You should have also noticed that the 2023-2024 FLE and Human Growth forms have not been updated. FCPS hasn’t even updated the FLE Opt-Out forms since 2021.

It would be disingenuous to continue using an outdated Opt-Out form that doesn’t reflect the contents nor the language of this current year when school is about to start. Given the polemic surrounding the FLE changes for this year, transparency and accuracy should be a must.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband and I decided to opt our kids out from the sex ed curriculum. We're lifelong Democrats who hate Trump and voted for Biden. But I just really can't deal with the extreme positions Democrats have staked out on some of these sexuality and gender debates. Of course I'd never say this publicly. Just curious how many others who feel like me are out there.

The FLE curriculum took a radical turn in 2018, driven by a few unreasonable and extremist activists. If anyone doubts that, just review pages 16 to 18 of the changes rammed through in 2018; here are the actual plan changes:

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AYKU7H699ED9/$file/FLECAC%20Annual%20Recommendations%20Report%202017_18_051018g.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We will be opting out.

I don't care for the "sex assigned at birth" language for the younger grades.

Cute. But they'll hear it anyway. But if you wanna bury your head in the sand about it, the void will just be filled by others elsewhere.

It isn't burying my head in the sand. It is me providing my kids with information, not the school.

This is why the school needs to teach it. You intend to give your children incorrect and bad information. That’s not good for your children or society.

Maybe your children should be removed from your care if you are going to be this neglectful. It’s not like Your position on this is valid or should be respected.

DP. You have problems with teaching "biology" as opposed to fiction? "Sex assigned at birth" is not science.

It’s language. Accurate language. And in fact, biological. So, in fact, science.

The better question is why are you so hung up on these semantics?

A better question: Why are YOU so hung up on other people’s children?

Because we educate children for the betterment of society.

You are the one who appears to be obsessed with how other people live their lives, including how the dress or present themselves to the public. How strange is that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We will be opting out.

I don't care for the "sex assigned at birth" language for the younger grades.

Cute. But they'll hear it anyway. But if you wanna bury your head in the sand about it, the void will just be filled by others elsewhere.

It isn't burying my head in the sand. It is me providing my kids with information, not the school.

This is why the school needs to teach it. You intend to give your children incorrect and bad information. That’s not good for your children or society.

Maybe your children should be removed from your care if you are going to be this neglectful. It’s not like Your position on this is valid or should be respected.

Excuse me, whose children are these again?

Society’s.

You probably shouldn’t be allowed to have children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We will be opting out.

I don't care for the "sex assigned at birth" language for the younger grades.

Cute. But they'll hear it anyway. But if you wanna bury your head in the sand about it, the void will just be filled by others elsewhere.

It isn't burying my head in the sand. It is me providing my kids with information, not the school.

This is why the school needs to teach it. You intend to give your children incorrect and bad information. That’s not good for your children or society.

Maybe your children should be removed from your care if you are going to be this neglectful. It’s not like Your position on this is valid or should be respected.

DP. You have problems with teaching "biology" as opposed to fiction? "Sex assigned at birth" is not science.

It is ideology and indoctrination.

You shouldn’t use words you don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The proposed changes have not been voted on yet by the school board. They delayed it. The proposed changes include the ludicrous assigned female and male at birth along with no longer separating genders. No thanks.

Again, that terminology (assigned male or female at birth) has been used by FCPS through the entire 2022-2023 school year, making it oficial as early as last year. Go back to last years’ school correspondence and you’ll see it. It is there!

They might have used it when talking about ideas for future changes and when speaking with adults but it was absolutely not part of any curriculum presented to children in 22-23. To imply otherwise is a lie.

Male and female are not assigned, man and woman are idiots

[Anonymous]

No. But I plan to have a discussion with the kids after the session to understand how it went and address any questions.

JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TOPIC TAUGHT IN SCHOOL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We will be opting out.

I don't care for the "sex assigned at birth" language for the younger grades.

Why not? It’s accurate. And certainly more precise.

What you “care for” isn’t relevant anyway. You’re only a parent — leave the education of your children to professionals. Your opinions about this don’t matter at all. Stay in your lane.

Wow, this again. From birth to 18 raising the child is the parent's lane. Perhaps if public school stuck to the basics of math, reading, writing, history. science and social studies everyone would be better off. Maybe then the majority of kids in public schools could read and do math at or above grade level.

But no, let's spend hours and hours on semantics for a subject that could be removed from the curriculum entirely, and based upon the animus it causes probably should be removed.

[Anonymous]

Again. I would love to see where in the curriculum they discuss any of this. It simply doesn't happen in elementary school. And if they head "male assigned at birth" somewhere along the way, it won't be the only place or the last place. Are you planning on option your kid out of life and society?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband and I decided to opt our kids out from the sex ed curriculum. We're lifelong Democrats who hate Trump and voted for Biden. But I just really can't deal with the extreme positions Democrats have staked out on some of these sexuality and gender debates. Of course I'd never say this publicly. Just curious how many others who feel like me are out there.

The FLE curriculum took a radical turn in 2018, driven by a few unreasonable and extremist activists. If anyone doubts that, just review pages 16 to 18 of the changes rammed through in 2018; here are the actual plan changes:

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AYKU7H699ED9/$file/FLECAC%20Annual%20Recommendations%20Report%202017_18_051018g.pdf

Just take a look at the committee members and you will understand.