Anyone here opting their kids out of sex ed in Virginia?

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Anonymous wrote:Where exactly can one see this “assigned at birth” language used in the elementary curriculum? FCPS follows the state curriculum verbatim. So are you saying that the Republican-led government (and VDOE) changed the curriculum? Or do you have access to some new curriculum that FCPS is using?

If you have children in FCPS you most certainly have received correspondence from the county using this new gender identity terminology. In fact, the latest survey sent to parents last fall on the proposed FLE changes uses it exclusively.

This was the recommendation for last year’s curriculum:
SY2022 - 23 Family Life Education Curriculum Advisory Committee (FLECAC) Consideration
In 2022 - 23 FLECAC should explore and recommend changes regarding inclusion of the gender spectrum in the elementary FLE curriculum and a more overall inclusive curriculum in Family Life Education.

The entire document:
https://www.fcps.edu/node/33908

So, I see that’s what the-powers-that-be are recommending or suggesting. Has this been approved? Will this be the curriculum this year? If not, then why opt-out your kid this year unless you were going to do it anyway, regardless of the actual curriculum. To say you are opting out this year because of future proposed language is disingenuous.

Are you a parent in FCPS? If so, you must have noticed that this language has already been used for over a year.

You should have also noticed that the 2023-2024 FLE and Human Growth forms have not been updated. FCPS hasn’t even updated the FLE Opt-Out forms since 2021.

It would be disingenuous to continue using an outdated Opt-Out form that doesn’t reflect the contents nor the language of this current year when school is about to start. Given the polemic surrounding the FLE changes for this year, transparency and accuracy should be a must.

It has NOT been used with ELEMENTARY students. I teach it verbatim and there is no “assigned at birth” in the elementary curriculum.

You are talking about the old FLE--they have not yet approved the new one.

EXACTLY. But people are posting that they are opting their kids out of an FLE that DOES. NOT. EXIST.

Will it change? Yeah, maybe. And then opt out if you want; that’s your right as a parent.

But these posters are straight-up lying by saying that the curriculum currently presented to elementary children uses the phrase “assigned at birth”. IT. DOES. NOT.

So, I’ll say again that to opt your child out of something that is not currently in existence is STUPID.

Three questions for you:
1. What will you do when you are instructed to use assigned male or female at birth with your ES students?
2. Have you visited your school’s library lately? FCPS has books in its ES libraries that not only use those terms as substitutes for boys and girls, they also teach students why those terms exist.
3. When students ask you what those terms in the books mean because they are confused, what do you reply?

So the libraries have books that teach kids about various things?

Again, ignorance is a feature, not a bug.

You still haven’t answered my three simple questions.

1/3 - I’m not a teacher
2 - I think it’s great that the libraries have books with various topics for the students who seek them out.

Towards the end of this document, there is a reference to the kind of material that has been in the ES libraries of FCPS for some time. Move forward six years, the trans activism in FCPS has gotten more intense, and the variety of material is even more explicit and graphic. Not sure why you think it’s your place to encourage someone else’s kids to be exposed to it, as is very doubtful that kids this young seek it out on their own initiative:
https://fcta.org/FxCo/Schools/2017_fcps_FLEfacts.pdf

Nobody forces any kid to check out these books from the library.

And the more mature content is in a handful of HS libraries.

FAKE ISSUE.

Stop trying to hurt kids to push your political agenda. It’s disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Where exactly can one see this “assigned at birth” language used in the elementary curriculum? FCPS follows the state curriculum verbatim. So are you saying that the Republican-led government (and VDOE) changed the curriculum? Or do you have access to some new curriculum that FCPS is using?

If you have children in FCPS you most certainly have received correspondence from the county using this new gender identity terminology. In fact, the latest survey sent to parents last fall on the proposed FLE changes uses it exclusively.

This was the recommendation for last year’s curriculum:
SY2022 - 23 Family Life Education Curriculum Advisory Committee (FLECAC) Consideration
In 2022 - 23 FLECAC should explore and recommend changes regarding inclusion of the gender spectrum in the elementary FLE curriculum and a more overall inclusive curriculum in Family Life Education.

The entire document:
https://www.fcps.edu/node/33908

So, I see that’s what the-powers-that-be are recommending or suggesting. Has this been approved? Will this be the curriculum this year? If not, then why opt-out your kid this year unless you were going to do it anyway, regardless of the actual curriculum. To say you are opting out this year because of future proposed language is disingenuous.

Are you a parent in FCPS? If so, you must have noticed that this language has already been used for over a year.

You should have also noticed that the 2023-2024 FLE and Human Growth forms have not been updated. FCPS hasn’t even updated the FLE Opt-Out forms since 2021.

It would be disingenuous to continue using an outdated Opt-Out form that doesn’t reflect the contents nor the language of this current year when school is about to start. Given the polemic surrounding the FLE changes for this year, transparency and accuracy should be a must.

It has NOT been used with ELEMENTARY students. I teach it verbatim and there is no “assigned at birth” in the elementary curriculum.

You are talking about the old FLE--they have not yet approved the new one.

EXACTLY. But people are posting that they are opting their kids out of an FLE that DOES. NOT. EXIST.

Will it change? Yeah, maybe. And then opt out if you want; that’s your right as a parent.

But these posters are straight-up lying by saying that the curriculum currently presented to elementary children uses the phrase “assigned at birth”. IT. DOES. NOT.

So, I’ll say again that to opt your child out of something that is not currently in existence is STUPID.

Three questions for you:
1. What will you do when you are instructed to use assigned male or female at birth with your ES students?
2. Have you visited your school’s library lately? FCPS has books in its ES libraries that not only use those terms as substitutes for boys and girls, they also teach students why those terms exist.
3. When students ask you what those terms in the books mean because they are confused, what do you reply?

1) Use the terms. Happily. It’s good to normalize this sort of language.
2) Yes. And that’s a wonderful thing. It is important that we teach our children these things. Why do you think it’s a problem?
3) Give your children some credit. They aren’t confused. You are.

Can you please say a little more about why it’s GOOD to normalize a wildly misleading description of one of the most fundamental aspects of human biology?

Your premise that it is “wildly misleading” is wrong. See my comment about how you are confused. I realize cognitive dissonance is hard, but make some effort to work through it.

It is always good to normalize inclusive language.

Your objection to this, while rooted in confusion and feeblemindedness, is truly bizarre.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:Where exactly can one see this “assigned at birth” language used in the elementary curriculum? FCPS follows the state curriculum verbatim. So are you saying that the Republican-led government (and VDOE) changed the curriculum? Or do you have access to some new curriculum that FCPS is using?

If you have children in FCPS you most certainly have received correspondence from the county using this new gender identity terminology. In fact, the latest survey sent to parents last fall on the proposed FLE changes uses it exclusively.

This was the recommendation for last year’s curriculum:
SY2022 - 23 Family Life Education Curriculum Advisory Committee (FLECAC) Consideration
In 2022 - 23 FLECAC should explore and recommend changes regarding inclusion of the gender spectrum in the elementary FLE curriculum and a more overall inclusive curriculum in Family Life Education.

The entire document:
https://www.fcps.edu/node/33908

So, I see that’s what the-powers-that-be are recommending or suggesting. Has this been approved? Will this be the curriculum this year? If not, then why opt-out your kid this year unless you were going to do it anyway, regardless of the actual curriculum. To say you are opting out this year because of future proposed language is disingenuous.

Are you a parent in FCPS? If so, you must have noticed that this language has already been used for over a year.

You should have also noticed that the 2023-2024 FLE and Human Growth forms have not been updated. FCPS hasn’t even updated the FLE Opt-Out forms since 2021.

It would be disingenuous to continue using an outdated Opt-Out form that doesn’t reflect the contents nor the language of this current year when school is about to start. Given the polemic surrounding the FLE changes for this year, transparency and accuracy should be a must.

It has NOT been used with ELEMENTARY students. I teach it verbatim and there is no “assigned at birth” in the elementary curriculum.

You are talking about the old FLE--they have not yet approved the new one.

EXACTLY. But people are posting that they are opting their kids out of an FLE that DOES. NOT. EXIST.

Will it change? Yeah, maybe. And then opt out if you want; that’s your right as a parent.

But these posters are straight-up lying by saying that the curriculum currently presented to elementary children uses the phrase “assigned at birth”. IT. DOES. NOT.

So, I’ll say again that to opt your child out of something that is not currently in existence is STUPID.

Three questions for you:
1. What will you do when you are instructed to use assigned male or female at birth with your ES students?
2. Have you visited your school’s library lately? FCPS has books in its ES libraries that not only use those terms as substitutes for boys and girls, they also teach students why those terms exist.
3. When students ask you what those terms in the books mean because they are confused, what do you reply?

So the libraries have books that teach kids about various things?

Again, ignorance is a feature, not a bug.

You still haven’t answered my three simple questions.

1/3 - I’m not a teacher
2 - I think it’s great that the libraries have books with various topics for the students who seek them out.

Towards the end of this document, there is a reference to the kind of material that has been in the ES libraries of FCPS for some time. Move forward six years, the trans activism in FCPS has gotten more intense, and the variety of material is even more explicit and graphic. Not sure why you think it’s your place to encourage someone else’s kids to be exposed to it, as is very doubtful that kids this young seek it out on their own initiative:
https://fcta.org/FxCo/Schools/2017_fcps_FLEfacts.pdf

Lolz. Talk about propaganda. The “Fairfax County Taxpayers Alliance?”

More accurately the “sex-obsessed right-wing nut job gladfly.”

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is active and involved in local politics. She went to the sex ed classes that her child was in (just sign in at the front desk as a guest) and "live tweeted" the whole thing. It was hilarious.

If you ever have questions of any kind about what is going on in public schools - go there and find out first hand. Then vote.

Something that never happened for $1000 Alex. Parents are not allowed in FLE classes with elementary children. Does. Not. Happen.

+1 there are no guest visits to classrooms to listen to FLE instruction. As if anyone would buy this. Lol.

These aren’t FCPS parents. Probably not from VA and probably don’t even have kids.

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Anonymous wrote:We opted out, but the children learned about material.

We also discussed that the LGBT+ people have 2x rate of substance abuse and mental illlness due to choice to live the risky lifestyle.

The children did not understand why school promoted the lifestyle. It was not easy talk.

You think gay people abuse drugs more often because they “choose to live the risky lifestyle”?

And you think schools are “promoting” homosexuality as a “lifestyle”?

I can see why it was a tough conversation for your kids. Must be tough to realize your parents are homophobes.

Still waiting on the answers to these questions.