Conservative-friendly schools?

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Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

This is just a warmed over version of Reagan's infamous reference to black welfare queens who are having babies left and right to live off the government fat. It was inaccurate then, and inaccurate now.

False, the discussion was about immigrants, not about black people or about welfare

The PP didn't say you were talking about black people. They were pointing out that the other poster's argument follows the same "reasoning" which, as another poster has mentioned (so many posters!), was apocryphal to begin with. First of all, since we are in the DC area, many immigrants who come here have access to many different jobs, especially immigrants who arrive with college and professional degrees in hand. DC is absolutely a bubble in this regard, given the number of people who live here who need services that people without college degrees can do (think domestic laborers, car mechanics, restaurant workers). What you're "seeing" in your daily observations is many of these immigrants who, because of their success, travel the same roads as you, etc. What you do not see are the countless other immigrants who do not drive cars, who do not patronize the same establishments as you. Go hang out in a place like Langley Park in Maryland or Sanger Road in Alexandria and talk to some of the people there and their experiences in America. These are the people who use public transportation, who tend not to eat out at restaurants you might patronize, etc. These are the people who tend to get stuck in poverty because of systemic reasons, many of them connected to their immigration status. Essentially, the life it sounds like you experience is automatically filtered by class, so you're only go to see the immigrants who have achieved a class status in close proximity to yours. Just because you don't see poorer immigrants with more burdens or challenges doesn't mean they don't exist. This is the kind of thought process that schools are trying to instill, not indoctrinate, in students.

Not sure which poster you are replying to

I was the one who mentioned construction and kitchen workers - I do not do construction or work in a kitchen myself, and I am aware that many of these people live in or near poverty and do not eat out at any restaurants, let alone the ones I go to

Maybe you were responding to the person who implied that all the successful immigrants have PhDs and money - that person could for sure use some more of your perspective

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is’t hard.

Religious schools teach their values at there schools fact.

When those values are hate, racism, antisemitism, non reporting of child abuse that is indoctrination. There is no reality we’re a kid in a religious private is not being indoctrinated into that religion it is literally the purpose of the school.

You are an idiot to think otherwise.

Clearly if you send your kid to a private like that you believe those ideas and you want that instilled in your child.


No public is doing that. Big whoop they teach inclusion while you all send your kids to places where thinking for themselves is not allowed.

Again not hard for people with brains who are not sheep who do not send their kids to schools were child abuse is hidden for years and years covered up looking at you Catholics and evangelicals

Religion’s core is to indoctrinate!

Troll post? Hard to tell.

Non-Catholic with a really logical brain here who sends her children to Catholic schools:
I want my children to be raised believing that we should leave the world better than we found it. We should perform service to the community. We should be kind to ALL others. People aren’t monoliths and we should refrain from blanket insults and judgments.

Catholic school seems to be working for us.

Perhaps if you stepped foot in one, you could shed a bit of your ignorance toward an entire swath of people.

+1 Close-minded posts like PP's are so sad to read, especially since PP is so convinced that he/she/they are the open-minded one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

This is just a warmed over version of Reagan's infamous reference to black welfare queens who are having babies left and right to live off the government fat. It was inaccurate then, and inaccurate now.

False, the discussion was about immigrants, not about black people or about welfare

The PP didn't say you were talking about black people. They were pointing out that the other poster's argument follows the same "reasoning" which, as another poster has mentioned (so many posters!), was apocryphal to begin with. First of all, since we are in the DC area, many immigrants who come here have access to many different jobs, especially immigrants who arrive with college and professional degrees in hand. DC is absolutely a bubble in this regard, given the number of people who live here who need services that people without college degrees can do (think domestic laborers, car mechanics, restaurant workers). What you're "seeing" in your daily observations is many of these immigrants who, because of their success, travel the same roads as you, etc. What you do not see are the countless other immigrants who do not drive cars, who do not patronize the same establishments as you. Go hang out in a place like Langley Park in Maryland or Sanger Road in Alexandria and talk to some of the people there and their experiences in America. These are the people who use public transportation, who tend not to eat out at restaurants you might patronize, etc. These are the people who tend to get stuck in poverty because of systemic reasons, many of them connected to their immigration status. Essentially, the life it sounds like you experience is automatically filtered by class, so you're only go to see the immigrants who have achieved a class status in close proximity to yours. Just because you don't see poorer immigrants with more burdens or challenges doesn't mean they don't exist. This is the kind of thought process that schools are trying to instill, not indoctrinate, in students.

Not sure which poster you are replying to

I was the one who mentioned construction and kitchen workers - I do not do construction or work in a kitchen myself, and I am aware that many of these people live in or near poverty and do not eat out at any restaurants, let alone the ones I go to

Maybe you were responding to the person who implied that all the successful immigrants have PhDs and money - that person could for sure use some more of your perspective

Sorry--as I mentioned, so many posters! I wasn't responding to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DP. FWIW, I am sick of the various culture wars, and of the lack of civility inside the beltway. I do not care for the left culture war or the right culture war, yet I see both exist. Similarly, outside metro DC, most of educated society does not talk or obsess about politics on a daily basis. People talk about other stuff, like kids, sports, books, hobbies, etc.

If the above is how OP feels, then I sympathize with the feeling. I would like a school that focuses on reading, writing, arithmetic, and teaching all of our history (good and bad) not just selective history in either a left or right perspective.

Left Culture War: Equality and options for all kids
Right Culture War: Only White straight Christians need apply

But bOtH sIdEs

99% of Americans are neither of these things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DP. FWIW, I am sick of the various culture wars, and of the lack of civility inside the beltway. I do not care for the left culture war or the right culture war, yet I see both exist. Similarly, outside metro DC, most of educated society does not talk or obsess about politics on a daily basis. People talk about other stuff, like kids, sports, books, hobbies, etc.

If the above is how OP feels, then I sympathize with the feeling. I would like a school that focuses on reading, writing, arithmetic, and teaching all of our history (good and bad) not just selective history in either a left or right perspective.

Left Culture War: Equality and options for all kids
Right Culture War: Only White straight Christians need apply

But bOtH sIdEs

99% of Americans are neither of these things.

The problem is that neither teacher unions nor school administrators care much about 99% of Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. FWIW, I am sick of the various culture wars, and of the lack of civility inside the beltway. I do not care for the left culture war or the right culture war, yet I see both exist. Similarly, outside metro DC, most of educated society does not talk or obsess about politics on a daily basis. People talk about other stuff, like kids, sports, books, hobbies, etc.

If the above is how OP feels, then I sympathize with the feeling. I would like a school that focuses on reading, writing, arithmetic, and teaching all of our history (good and bad) not just selective history in either a left or right perspective.

Left Culture War: Equality and options for all kids
Right Culture War: Only White straight Christians need apply

But bOtH sIdEs

99% of Americans are neither of these things.

And yet many still vote for Republicans, whose official party platform is enshrined in bigotry and exclusion.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. FWIW, I am sick of the various culture wars, and of the lack of civility inside the beltway. I do not care for the left culture war or the right culture war, yet I see both exist. Similarly, outside metro DC, most of educated society does not talk or obsess about politics on a daily basis. People talk about other stuff, like kids, sports, books, hobbies, etc.

If the above is how OP feels, then I sympathize with the feeling. I would like a school that focuses on reading, writing, arithmetic, and teaching all of our history (good and bad) not just selective history in either a left or right perspective.

Left Culture War: Equality and options for all kids
Right Culture War: Only White straight Christians need apply

But bOtH sIdEs

99% of Americans are neither of these things.

And yet many still vote for Republicans, whose official party platform is enshrined in bigotry and exclusion.

You're literally crazy. How can you afford private tuition -- family money?

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Anonymous wrote:DP. FWIW, I am sick of the various culture wars, and of the lack of civility inside the beltway. I do not care for the left culture war or the right culture war, yet I see both exist. Similarly, outside metro DC, most of educated society does not talk or obsess about politics on a daily basis. People talk about other stuff, like kids, sports, books, hobbies, etc.

If the above is how OP feels, then I sympathize with the feeling. I would like a school that focuses on reading, writing, arithmetic, and teaching all of our history (good and bad) not just selective history in either a left or right perspective.

Left Culture War: Equality and options for all kids
Right Culture War: Only White straight Christians need apply

But bOtH sIdEs

99% of Americans are neither of these things.

And yet many still vote for Republicans, whose official party platform is enshrined in bigotry and exclusion.

You're literally crazy. How can you afford private tuition -- family money?

What's crazy? The part about the Republican Party platform being enshrined in bigotry and exclusion? That's absolutely true. The RNC is still opposed to marriage equality and is very much guilty of creating an environment hostile to immigrants, especially those who aren't from Northern Europe. Republican politicians such as DeSantis and others openly support banning books written by minority authors that challenge the narrative of American Exceptionalism (think authors of colors and LGBTQ authors). Trump, who is the leading Republican candidate in the presidential campaign, can't open his mouth without some divisive drivel spilling out ("good people on both sides").

Your question about how I can afford tuition is telling because, as I read it, you're suggesting that I should support Republicans because somehow that party, known for cutting taxes for the wealthy, would make it easier for me to pay my child's tuition. Essentially, you're suggesting my sole and primary interest should be paying lower taxes. My sole and primary interest is to make sure that America remains a country where people can have a life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I realize I speak from a place of privilege being able to say this, and I agree. But, my response would be that it is morally wrong to put your money before the freedom of others.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. FWIW, I am sick of the various culture wars, and of the lack of civility inside the beltway. I do not care for the left culture war or the right culture war, yet I see both exist. Similarly, outside metro DC, most of educated society does not talk or obsess about politics on a daily basis. People talk about other stuff, like kids, sports, books, hobbies, etc.

If the above is how OP feels, then I sympathize with the feeling. I would like a school that focuses on reading, writing, arithmetic, and teaching all of our history (good and bad) not just selective history in either a left or right perspective.

Left Culture War: Equality and options for all kids
Right Culture War: Only White straight Christians need apply

But bOtH sIdEs

99% of Americans are neither of these things.

Exactly.

As someone who fits rather squarely in the middle of the political spectrum, I see the intolerant extremism of the far left AND the far right. The PP can mock “both sides,” but that’s exactly what they are: sides. Many of us fall in the middle.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused as to what students in private schools are being indoctrinated into. So far, some posters have complained that their children talk too much about race and sexual orientation in classes. But how does studying race/racism/sexuality/identity or whatever indoctrinate children into a particular biased ideology?

That’s violation of the code of white supremacy’s. There is a rule that you should never acknowledge that racism exists publicly.

We are discussing private schools here.
Who are the white supremacists? Did you post on the wrong thread?

There’s that white supremacist deflection.

I think you are a bot

To the radical left, white supremacist is merely a political term for anybody whose views they don’t like.

I can prove it - I invite anybody who thinks that phrase is a worthwhile part of the discourse on this thread, to tell us which of the announced 2024 Republican Presidential Candidates are, in your opinion, NOT white supremacists?

Chris Christie, Asa Hutchinson are two.

of course, the two candidates who have zero chance of winning and are politically irrelevant are the only two that you admit are not white supremacists. But in your world Trump is White Supremacist #1, DeSantis is #2, and if anyone else who starts rising in the polls, he/she will be called a white supremacist too. The NAACP, which used to be taken seriously, issued a "Travel Advisory" for the state of Florida after DeSantis announced his candidacy. It has nothing to do with race and everything with politics and power. Fortunately most people are smart enough see right through it!

+1000
so true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. FWIW, I am sick of the various culture wars, and of the lack of civility inside the beltway. I do not care for the left culture war or the right culture war, yet I see both exist. Similarly, outside metro DC, most of educated society does not talk or obsess about politics on a daily basis. People talk about other stuff, like kids, sports, books, hobbies, etc.

If the above is how OP feels, then I sympathize with the feeling. I would like a school that focuses on reading, writing, arithmetic, and teaching all of our history (good and bad) not just selective history in either a left or right perspective.

Left Culture War: Equality and options for all kids
Right Culture War: Only White straight Christians need apply

But bOtH sIdEs

99% of Americans are neither of these things.

And yet many still vote for Republicans, whose official party platform is enshrined in bigotry and exclusion.

The thread isn’t about voting though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They call us racist and we call them groomers. It is sadly par for the course in this day and age. My daughter is in a known private school and had to study a speech by Greta Thunberg and write a paper about the rainbow coalition within a week. The references were limited to source material from places like the SPLC. I don't necessarily have a problem with this, as you should learn about all aspects of society. However, there is no way to see what is happening in public and private schools and conclude it is anything but indoctrination. Our family spends quite a bit of time undoing the context and reframing many of the social issues raised in our private school. There is definately a disconnect between the sensible currcilum presented and sold (at a very high cost) to the parents, the actual material covered and the context in which is presented. Talk to your kids and have them question everything - whether attending the Height or GDS.

So you are undoing lessons about the environment and climate change and perseverance of q girl with learning differences, or tolerance of those who are not straight?

Winning for you, I guess?

I am sorry they've done this to you. You are allowed to question the ideas of anyone and everyone. This includes people who have learning differences. The Rainbow coalition has nothing to do with being straight or gay. You saw the word rainbow and thought gay. Your ignorance and prejudice is not your fault. You've been assigned an opinion and don't know any better. I'm so sorrry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They call us racist and we call them groomers. It is sadly par for the course in this day and age. My daughter is in a known private school and had to study a speech by Greta Thunberg and write a paper about the rainbow coalition within a week. The references were limited to source material from places like the SPLC. I don't necessarily have a problem with this, as you should learn about all aspects of society. However, there is no way to see what is happening in public and private schools and conclude it is anything but indoctrination. Our family spends quite a bit of time undoing the context and reframing many of the social issues raised in our private school. There is definately a disconnect between the sensible currcilum presented and sold (at a very high cost) to the parents, the actual material covered and the context in which is presented. Talk to your kids and have them question everything - whether attending the Height or GDS.

So you are undoing lessons about the environment and climate change and perseverance of q girl with learning differences, or tolerance of those who are not straight?

Winning for you, I guess?

I am sorry they've done this to you. You are allowed to question the ideas of anyone and everyone. This includes people who have learning differences. The Rainbow coalition has nothing to do with being straight or gay. You saw the word rainbow and thought gay. Your ignorance and prejudice is not your fault. You've been assigned an opinion and don't know any better. I'm so sorrry.

different poster - your condescending response is over the top, even by DCUM standards. But I would expect nothing less of someone using the words groomer and indoctrination. It’s clear you are fully participating in the culture wars. The best part is that you are paying for an education for your child you don’t agree with. I love this for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. FWIW, I am sick of the various culture wars, and of the lack of civility inside the beltway. I do not care for the left culture war or the right culture war, yet I see both exist. Similarly, outside metro DC, most of educated society does not talk or obsess about politics on a daily basis. People talk about other stuff, like kids, sports, books, hobbies, etc.

If the above is how OP feels, then I sympathize with the feeling. I would like a school that focuses on reading, writing, arithmetic, and teaching all of our history (good and bad) not just selective history in either a left or right perspective.

Left Culture War: Equality and options for all kids
Right Culture War: Only White straight Christians need apply

But bOtH sIdEs

99% of Americans are neither of these things.

While that may be true, only one side is actually inclusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused as to what students in private schools are being indoctrinated into. So far, some posters have complained that their children talk too much about race and sexual orientation in classes. But how does studying race/racism/sexuality/identity or whatever indoctrinate children into a particular biased ideology?

That’s violation of the code of white supremacy’s. There is a rule that you should never acknowledge that racism exists publicly.

We are discussing private schools here.
Who are the white supremacists? Did you post on the wrong thread?

There’s that white supremacist deflection.

I think you are a bot

To the radical left, white supremacist is merely a political term for anybody whose views they don’t like.

I can prove it - I invite anybody who thinks that phrase is a worthwhile part of the discourse on this thread, to tell us which of the announced 2024 Republican Presidential Candidates are, in your opinion, NOT white supremacists?

Chris Christie, Asa Hutchinson are two.

of course, the two candidates who have zero chance of winning and are politically irrelevant are the only two that you admit are not white supremacists. But in your world Trump is White Supremacist #1, DeSantis is #2, and if anyone else who starts rising in the polls, he/she will be called a white supremacist too. The NAACP, which used to be taken seriously, issued a "Travel Advisory" for the state of Florida after DeSantis announced his candidacy. It has nothing to do with race and everything with politics and power. Fortunately most people are smart enough see right through it!

Narrator: Trump and DiSantis and a host of other mainstream republcians are, in fact, white supremacists.