Conservative-friendly schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Actually, Australia is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

That you characterize all immigrants that way shows how ignorant and hateful you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

That you characterize all immigrants that way shows how ignorant and hateful you are.

Most are today. Ellis Island is long gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

And working in kitchens

And in construction and landscaping

Didn’t realize they were all so educated and well off, what a trip

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

This is just a warmed over version of Reagan's infamous reference to black welfare queens who are having babies left and right to live off the government fat. It was inaccurate then, and inaccurate now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

This is just a warmed over version of Reagan's infamous reference to black welfare queens who are having babies left and right to live off the government fat. It was inaccurate then, and inaccurate now.

False, the discussion was about immigrants, not about black people or about welfare

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

This is just a warmed over version of Reagan's infamous reference to black welfare queens who are having babies left and right to live off the government fat. It was inaccurate then, and inaccurate now.

False, the discussion was about immigrants, not about black people or about welfare

Also there’s a good new book about the welfare queen story - it was basically a hoax, it turns out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

And working in kitchens

And in construction and landscaping

Didn’t realize they were all so educated and well off, what a trip

+1

Previous "PhDs" PP is totally clueless.

[Anonymous]

Chestnut Lodge will help you OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

This is just a warmed over version of Reagan's infamous reference to black welfare queens who are having babies left and right to live off the government fat. It was inaccurate then, and inaccurate now.

Also bear in mind that there are twice as many poor white people as poor black people in the US

So when you read statements about why people are poor, think about them in that context first, and they won’t trigger you as much

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused as to what students in private schools are being indoctrinated into. So far, some posters have complained that their children talk too much about race and sexual orientation in classes. But how does studying race/racism/sexuality/identity or whatever indoctrinate children into a particular biased ideology?

I’m just upset they are not studying things holistically. Feel like they miss big picture bc they only study racial conflicts around the globe instead of world history. They don’t have a solid base beyond these very narrow topics, and have huge learning gaps.

I’m actually ok with some of this - as long as it’s not at the expense of teaching history.

That's quite the leap you've made. What makes you think these things are mutually exclusive? I dispute your premise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused as to what students in private schools are being indoctrinated into. So far, some posters have complained that their children talk too much about race and sexual orientation in classes. But how does studying race/racism/sexuality/identity or whatever indoctrinate children into a particular biased ideology?

I’m just upset they are not studying things holistically. Feel like they miss big picture bc they only study racial conflicts around the globe instead of world history. They don’t have a solid base beyond these very narrow topics, and have huge learning gaps.

I’m actually ok with some of this - as long as it’s not at the expense of teaching history.

Yes!! 💯

You guys do realize that it's not relevant to anything whether you're OK with this or not? Your opinions about these things don't really matter and aren't actually valid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still confused as to what students in private schools are being indoctrinated into. So far, some posters have complained that their children talk too much about race and sexual orientation in classes. But how does studying race/racism/sexuality/identity or whatever indoctrinate children into a particular biased ideology?

I’m just upset they are not studying things holistically. Feel like they miss big picture bc they only study racial conflicts around the globe instead of world history. They don’t have a solid base beyond these very narrow topics, and have huge learning gaps.

I’m actually ok with some of this - as long as it’s not at the expense of teaching history.

That's quite the leap you've made. What makes you think these things are mutually exclusive? I dispute your premise.

DP: What PP above is 100% obvious if you have had kids schooled in DC. History classes are a provincial and biased joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here who wrote about "different goals and behaviors of different cultural groups"

my post seems to have been misinterpreted so I'll be more clear

what I meant is that people with certain cultural habits are more likely to succeed in our society than people with certain other cultural habits - doesn't matter which cultures we're talking about, just that the habits you pick up from your family and surroundings have something to do with how your life turns out

e.g. poor people do a lot of stuff that keeps them poor - not because they're bad people, and partly because their behavior signals that they came from a group about which many people make negative assumptions - call that prejudice - but also, growing up that way just doesn't build habits that work as well in school & jobs as the habits built growing up UMC

anyway, that's what I was referring to - it's all obviously very complex and doesn't mean anyone's a bad person for not succeeding - but it's also more nuanced & useful than "X inequality must be because prejudice"

Poor people are also poor because of structural issues in our country that keep them poor and historically so.

You might want to learn some history and/ or travel a bit more. Our country, as flawed as it is, is as meritocratic as they come. Ask any immigrant, of any skin color and religion and SES.

Yes, those poor immigrants with PhDs in their home country who could afford the thousands of dollars in plane tickets to come here.

Weird, then why are they all driving Ubers and running gas stations

This is just a warmed over version of Reagan's infamous reference to black welfare queens who are having babies left and right to live off the government fat. It was inaccurate then, and inaccurate now.

False, the discussion was about immigrants, not about black people or about welfare

The PP didn't say you were talking about black people. They were pointing out that the other poster's argument follows the same "reasoning" which, as another poster has mentioned (so many posters!), was apocryphal to begin with. First of all, since we are in the DC area, many immigrants who come here have access to many different jobs, especially immigrants who arrive with college and professional degrees in hand. DC is absolutely a bubble in this regard, given the number of people who live here who need services that people without college degrees can do (think domestic laborers, car mechanics, restaurant workers). What you're "seeing" in your daily observations is many of these immigrants who, because of their success, travel the same roads as you, etc. What you do not see are the countless other immigrants who do not drive cars, who do not patronize the same establishments as you. Go hang out in a place like Langley Park in Maryland or Sanger Road in Alexandria and talk to some of the people there and their experiences in America. These are the people who use public transportation, who tend not to eat out at restaurants you might patronize, etc. These are the people who tend to get stuck in poverty because of systemic reasons, many of them connected to their immigration status. Essentially, the life it sounds like you experience is automatically filtered by class, so you're only go to see the immigrants who have achieved a class status in close proximity to yours. Just because you don't see poorer immigrants with more burdens or challenges doesn't mean they don't exist. This is the kind of thought process that schools are trying to instill, not indoctrinate, in students.