People getting crap jobs from HYPS?

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My dad went to Yale and was lower middle class even. He could have hustled and got a big name job and probably become very rich. He was content to drift and do something else. He is extremely bright but was never interested in conventional success. All types go to HYPS, and it isn't everyone's dream to work on Wall St or become a doctor/lawyer whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

My Ivy certainly had a lab for my stem degree. We had our own chip fab, wind tunnel, and built our own nano sats. Sure GT, CalTech, and MIT are on another level but businesses value more than just raw technical talent which is where Ivys and Stanford shine.

So you had a 4-6 hour lab assignment every other week?
And tests where 45% correct was an A?

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Businesses value a trainable stem ugrad and sends them to HBS or gsb. Or hires them then for fast track.

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Anonymous wrote:My dad went to Yale and was lower middle class even. He could have hustled and got a big name job and probably become very rich. He was content to drift and do something else. He is extremely bright but was never interested in conventional success. All types go to HYPS, and it isn't everyone's dream to work on Wall St or become a doctor/lawyer whatever.

WDC Club Fed or academia is good for those types

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Anonymous wrote:1. Heard many kids say after Covid: I want to be outside, and working with others.

2. That’s a rich kid job, so his HYSP school made him upwardly mobile 😉. Congrats!

3. He’ll be richer for his experiences and have a life that’s fun to talk about.

4. When he’s ready for something else, he’ll do fine.

Nope. Rich kids work high paying jobs.

Nope. They don't have to.

I don't think you know any rich ppl and your view is what typical UMC ppl do.

Ha, I know hedge funds that only hire elite family’s kids and work them hard.
Why? Because built in network. By and large they have parents who never retire, sit in a ton of boards, are family centric too (often Jewish so goes hand in hand), and expect a lot from their adult children professionally.

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I'm the Yale dad poster. So my grandfather also saw academia as a natural fit for my old man and harassed him to get a PhD and just become a prof. My dad wasn't interested in that either. He ended up just doing a humble average job and definitely had his moments where he felt he squandered his potential but overall he has no regrets. I know bc I've asked him many times He's financially okay and deeply at peace.

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Time will tell.

Ivys used to demand “leaders” and go-getters, but the last 10 years have been very social justice focused in crafting their student body and new studies majors.

Time will tell what comes of that new alumni base and donations.

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You definitely need to pitch yourself at the interviews so bookish savants should go elsewhere.

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My cousin went to Yale and is a dance teacher out in California now. She was a hippy before she went and is still a hippy now. The good news is her parents are very rich and support her.

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Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

My Ivy certainly had a lab for my stem degree. We had our own chip fab, wind tunnel, and built our own nano sats. Sure GT, CalTech, and MIT are on another level but businesses value more than just raw technical talent which is where Ivys and Stanford shine.

So you had a 4-6 hour lab assignment every other week?
And tests where 45% correct was an A?

I’ve got news for you, no college or university in the US, anywhere, is like that in 2023. Grade inflation, athletic recruiting, affirmative action, helicopter parenting and college being a consumer-based business have eliminated such practice.

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Anonymous wrote:My cousin went to Yale and is a dance teacher out in California now. She was a hippy before she went and is still a hippy now. The good news is her parents are very rich and support her.

My dance teacher went to Harvard and studied physics. After graduation she taught dance at my state school for a few years and moved on to be a creative director at another state school dance department. YOLO.

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Anonymous wrote:Yolo OP. He will be fine. MYOB

This. The dude is likely going to law or medical school in the next 2-3 years. He's allowed to have fun for a little bit.

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I went to Oxford for undergrad and got a consulting job after graduating. I never wanted to, my heart was never in it but did it bc it was the done thing. Quit a few years later and am a SAHM now. I loved my time at uni but always knew I was never cut out for a very big job or career. Plenty of people I know from Oxford in the same situation. It's a big assumption to make that anyone who went to HYPS automatically wants a fancy career, it's just simply not true.

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Anonymous wrote:My dad went to Yale and was lower middle class even. He could have hustled and got a big name job and probably become very rich. He was content to drift and do something else. He is extremely bright but was never interested in conventional success. All types go to HYPS, and it isn't everyone's dream to work on Wall St or become a doctor/lawyer whatever.

Not everyone “can hustle,” even “if they want to”. Many fall flat on their face in that regard and ever reach full potential at work, on the sports field, or at home.

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Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

DP. But yes, it certainly can be. Some of the laziest people I know are mathematicians, pi in the sky and all that, it can very much be a naval gazing humanities degree. To the extent employers think otherwise, that’s a fairly recent development.

But, if graduated without debt, he’ll be self sustaining as a kayak guide, so good enough.

“Ivy League stem degrees” don’t even have labs, nor compare in level of difficulty or skills learned to a earn a math or engineering BS degree from Georgia tech, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, a service academy, CalTech, or top flagship state schools. And certainly can’t hold a candle to math at IIt, Oxbridge, Todai, ecole systems.

Ask anyone that hires or wants the trainability of a true mathematician what they think of the coursework and driven of HYP math major.

My Ivy certainly had a lab for my stem degree. We had our own chip fab, wind tunnel, and built our own nano sats. Sure GT, CalTech, and MIT are on another level but businesses value more than just raw technical talent which is where Ivys and Stanford shine.

So you had a 4-6 hour lab assignment every other week?
And tests where 45% correct was an A?

I’ve got news for you, no college or university in the US, anywhere, is like that in 2023. Grade inflation, athletic recruiting, affirmative action, helicopter parenting and college being a consumer-based business have eliminated such practice.

Cool.

Go USA!