24-yo Sofia Richie ties the knot in France. Marrying in your early 20s is trendy!

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Anonymous wrote:DH and I got married in our 20s right after law school, in 2015. I find the rabid DCUM defense of old marriage and parenthood pretty silly. I hope I am raising kids who are mature enough to follow in our footsteps, not stuck in a decade-long adolescence.

So you got lucky and met your life partner in your early/mid 20s. Why do you think that makes you better than someone who doesn’t meet the right person until they’re 30? I would’ve loved to marry my college BF in a different life, except he cheated on me.

I don’t think I’m “better than” you. I think that people should universally be ready to pick out a mate by 26-29, and actively be looking for that, rather than indulging in prolonged adolescence.

26 to 29 is late and already a shallow dating pool full of leftovers and baggage. Teens and college-aged young adults should be mindful of who they socialize with and date. Marrying a high school sweetheart is not weird or small-minded, it’s incredibly pure and romantic. Same for marrying that classmate you met during welcome week of college or in a study group your third year. Teach your children to take friendships and relationships seriously very early on. Value their reputation. Don’t treat dating like it’s an app carelessly swiping and discarding. Set a goal that you’d like to marry soon after college and don’t waste time with non-serious men or women. Men and women lacked this goal because it wasn’t seen as cool by pop culture. With celebs like Sofia marrying so young, young adults [now] have cool and gorgeous celebs to mirror.

26 to 19 is far too late. Young people should be doing all of what you mentioned in time to marry at 18, or at 16-17 in the states where that’s legal. Anything after that is way too late.

You’re trying to detail the thread with trolling. But Sofia took positioning herself for marriage seriously at age 21. She dumped the loser she was dating and got into a serious relationship with a serious young man who’d become her husband by age 24. The average 21 year old American man and woman is not taking relationships seriously. They are not thinking about marriage. They tend to just carelessly coast through their teens and 20s hooking up and swiping dating apps. Often this leads to them waking up in their 30s, bitter, alone and childless, and picking at leftovers.

Sofia hopefully reflects a cultural shift.

She's a real role model, dating Scott Disick.

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Anonymous wrote:DH and I got married in our 20s right after law school, in 2015. I find the rabid DCUM defense of old marriage and parenthood pretty silly. I hope I am raising kids who are mature enough to follow in our footsteps, not stuck in a decade-long adolescence.

So you got lucky and met your life partner in your early/mid 20s. Why do you think that makes you better than someone who doesn’t meet the right person until they’re 30? I would’ve loved to marry my college BF in a different life, except he cheated on me.

I don’t think I’m “better than” you. I think that people should universally be ready to pick out a mate by 26-29, and actively be looking for that, rather than indulging in prolonged adolescence.

26 to 29 is late and already a shallow dating pool full of leftovers and baggage. Teens and college-aged young adults should be mindful of who they socialize with and date. Marrying a high school sweetheart is not weird or small-minded, it’s incredibly pure and romantic. Same for marrying that classmate you met during welcome week of college or in a study group your third year. Teach your children to take friendships and relationships seriously very early on. Value their reputation. Don’t treat dating like it’s an app carelessly swiping and discarding. Set a goal that you’d like to marry soon after college and don’t waste time with non-serious men or women. Men and women lacked this goal because it wasn’t seen as cool by pop culture. With celebs like Sofia marrying so young, young adults [now] have cool and gorgeous celebs to mirror.

Do you live in Oxford, Mississippi?

You honestly believe dating is easier and the dating pool is deep in your late 20s? You will never have access to a better and deeper dating pool than high school and college years. Even by third and fourth year of college, most stable and mature college students are in serious relationships. Every year after graduation more and more are living together, engaged, and then married. By 26 to 29 the same dating pool from your freshman year of college has shrunk to maybe 10% available? Maybe. The takeaway is clear: The ideal time to find a spouse is when you’re young and beautiful. Teach your* children to take those years seriously, as Sofia just did. And just like our ancestors did for thousands of years. This waiting until you’re 30 for marriage and kids nonsense has always been asinine.

teach your* children

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Anonymous wrote:DH and I got married in our 20s right after law school, in 2015. I find the rabid DCUM defense of old marriage and parenthood pretty silly. I hope I am raising kids who are mature enough to follow in our footsteps, not stuck in a decade-long adolescence.

So you got lucky and met your life partner in your early/mid 20s. Why do you think that makes you better than someone who doesn’t meet the right person until they’re 30? I would’ve loved to marry my college BF in a different life, except he cheated on me.

I don’t think I’m “better than” you. I think that people should universally be ready to pick out a mate by 26-29, and actively be looking for that, rather than indulging in prolonged adolescence.

26 to 29 is late and already a shallow dating pool full of leftovers and baggage. Teens and college-aged young adults should be mindful of who they socialize with and date. Marrying a high school sweetheart is not weird or small-minded, it’s incredibly pure and romantic. Same for marrying that classmate you met during welcome week of college or in a study group your third year. Teach your children to take friendships and relationships seriously very early on. Value their reputation. Don’t treat dating like it’s an app carelessly swiping and discarding. Set a goal that you’d like to marry soon after college and don’t waste time with non-serious men or women. Men and women lacked this goal because it wasn’t seen as cool by pop culture. With celebs like Sofia marrying so young, young adults [now] have cool and gorgeous celebs to mirror.

Do you live in Oxford, Mississippi?

You honestly believe dating is easier and the dating pool is deep in your late 20s? You will never have access to a better and deeper dating pool than high school and college years. Even by third and fourth year of college, most stable and mature college students are in serious relationships. Every year after graduation more and more are living together, engaged, and then married. By 26 to 29 the same dating pool from your freshman year of college has shrunk to maybe 10% available? Maybe. The takeaway is clear: The ideal time to find a spouse is when you’re young and beautiful. Teach young children to take those years seriously, as Sofia just did. And just like our ancestors did for thousands of years. This waiting until you’re 30 for marriage and kids nonsense has always been asinine.

Your fundamental flaw is assuming that everyone wants kids & marriage.

No, we're not. I think most of us on this thread think we're talking about marriage though.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for it if that's what they want - of my friends (both guys and gals) that waited to marry into their 30s most settled for partners they wouldn't have ever dated when they were a little younger - and we are only talking early-mid thirties vs. mid-late 20s - but the younger marriages just seemed to last AND be a lot more fun and compatible.

Less baggage, building a life together, no fertility challenges = bliss.

Imagine thinking you’re going to be a better wife or better husband after serial dating dozens of people, all the lies and broken hearts, Plan B use and maybe an abortion, all sort of mental and relationship baggage, already set in your ways, and let’s be blunt, one or both of you likely feel you’re settling. Then the very high likelihood you have fertility issues. It can work, but it all sets the table for a disaster.

Have you thought to get counseling for your bitterness that Plan B didn’t exist and abortion wasn’t legal when you got knocked up out of wedlock? Your bitterness at having kids derail your life is really concerning.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for it if that's what they want - of my friends (both guys and gals) that waited to marry into their 30s most settled for partners they wouldn't have ever dated when they were a little younger - and we are only talking early-mid thirties vs. mid-late 20s - but the younger marriages just seemed to last AND be a lot more fun and compatible.

Less baggage, building a life together, no fertility challenges = bliss.

Imagine thinking you’re going to be a better wife or better husband after serial dating dozens of people, all the lies and broken hearts, Plan B use and maybe an abortion, all sort of mental and relationship baggage, already set in your ways, and let’s be blunt, one or both of you likely feel you’re settling. Then the very high likelihood you have fertility issues. It can work, but it all sets the table for a disaster.

Everyone I know that got married young ended up cheating on each other and divorced. My parents and my husband's included. How is it better for the kids when mom and dad divorce during the middle school years and decide they don't want to parent anymore because they missed out on their 20s?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for it if that's what they want - of my friends (both guys and gals) that waited to marry into their 30s most settled for partners they wouldn't have ever dated when they were a little younger - and we are only talking early-mid thirties vs. mid-late 20s - but the younger marriages just seemed to last AND be a lot more fun and compatible.

Less baggage, building a life together, no fertility challenges = bliss.

Imagine thinking you’re going to be a better wife or better husband after serial dating dozens of people, all the lies and broken hearts, Plan B use and maybe an abortion, all sort of mental and relationship baggage, already set in your ways, and let’s be blunt, one or both of you likely feel you’re settling. Then the very high likelihood you have fertility issues. It can work, but it all sets the table for a disaster.

Have you thought to get counseling for your bitterness that Plan B didn’t exist and abortion wasn’t legal when you got knocked up out of wedlock? Your bitterness at having kids derail your life is really concerning.

I think you’re projecting dear because the only point I was making there is that emergency contraception use and abortion scar both men and women, i.e. baggage. They also make young people devalue sex and devalue the creation of life, adding to the lack of maturation and prolonged adolescence which delays marriage and children. For you to flippantly say a child “derails” life really teases out what sort of dark-hearted person I’m communicating with. You are clearly a woman who is currently childless, so you don’t even fully comprehend what you’re saying. I wish you well.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for it if that's what they want - of my friends (both guys and gals) that waited to marry into their 30s most settled for partners they wouldn't have ever dated when they were a little younger - and we are only talking early-mid thirties vs. mid-late 20s - but the younger marriages just seemed to last AND be a lot more fun and compatible.

Less baggage, building a life together, no fertility challenges = bliss.

Imagine thinking you’re going to be a better wife or better husband after serial dating dozens of people, all the lies and broken hearts, Plan B use and maybe an abortion, all sort of mental and relationship baggage, already set in your ways, and let’s be blunt, one or both of you likely feel you’re settling. Then the very high likelihood you have fertility issues. It can work, but it all sets the table for a disaster.

Have you thought to get counseling for your bitterness that Plan B didn’t exist and abortion wasn’t legal when you got knocked up out of wedlock? Your bitterness at having kids derail your life is really concerning.

I think you’re projecting dear because the only point I was making there is that emergency contraception use and abortion scar both men and women, i.e. baggage. They also make young people devalue sex and devalue the creation of life, adding to the lack of maturation and prolonged adolescence which delays marriage and children. For you to flippantly say a child “derails” life really teases out what sort of dark-hearted person I’m communicating with. You are clearly a woman who is currently childless, so you don’t even fully comprehend what you’re saying. I wish you well.

Sorry BG. I know you’re a bitter old woman now who hated that she got knocked up at 20 by the first guy willing to sleep with her. You just want to come here a spew filth to make you feel better about your situation. But I know you. I know why you’re here.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for it if that's what they want - of my friends (both guys and gals) that waited to marry into their 30s most settled for partners they wouldn't have ever dated when they were a little younger - and we are only talking early-mid thirties vs. mid-late 20s - but the younger marriages just seemed to last AND be a lot more fun and compatible.

Less baggage, building a life together, no fertility challenges = bliss.

Imagine thinking you’re going to be a better wife or better husband after serial dating dozens of people, all the lies and broken hearts, Plan B use and maybe an abortion, all sort of mental and relationship baggage, already set in your ways, and let’s be blunt, one or both of you likely feel you’re settling. Then the very high likelihood you have fertility issues. It can work, but it all sets the table for a disaster.

Have you thought to get counseling for your bitterness that Plan B didn’t exist and abortion wasn’t legal when you got knocked up out of wedlock? Your bitterness at having kids derail your life is really concerning.

I think you’re projecting dear because the only point I was making there is that emergency contraception use and abortion scar both men and women, i.e. baggage. They also make young people devalue sex and devalue the creation of life, adding to the lack of maturation and prolonged adolescence which delays marriage and children. For you to flippantly say a child “derails” life really teases out what sort of dark-hearted person I’m communicating with. You are clearly a woman who is currently childless, so you don’t even fully comprehend what you’re saying. I wish you well.

What’s your beef with plan B? I’ve used it a few times over the years, after sex with DH, and we had no issues getting pregnant. Is there any actual evidence that it’s use impacts fertility or just a general feeling you have?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for it if that's what they want - of my friends (both guys and gals) that waited to marry into their 30s most settled for partners they wouldn't have ever dated when they were a little younger - and we are only talking early-mid thirties vs. mid-late 20s - but the younger marriages just seemed to last AND be a lot more fun and compatible.

Less baggage, building a life together, no fertility challenges = bliss.

Imagine thinking you’re going to be a better wife or better husband after serial dating dozens of people, all the lies and broken hearts, Plan B use and maybe an abortion, all sort of mental and relationship baggage, already set in your ways, and let’s be blunt, one or both of you likely feel you’re settling. Then the very high likelihood you have fertility issues. It can work, but it all sets the table for a disaster.

Have you thought to get counseling for your bitterness that Plan B didn’t exist and abortion wasn’t legal when you got knocked up out of wedlock? Your bitterness at having kids derail your life is really concerning.

I think you’re projecting dear because the only point I was making there is that emergency contraception use and abortion scar both men and women, i.e. baggage. They also make young people devalue sex and devalue the creation of life, adding to the lack of maturation and prolonged adolescence which delays marriage and children. For you to flippantly say a child “derails” life really teases out what sort of dark-hearted person I’m communicating with. You are clearly a woman who is currently childless, so you don’t even fully comprehend what you’re saying. I wish you well.

What’s your beef with plan B? I’ve used it a few times over the years, after sex with DH, and we had no issues getting pregnant. Is there any actual evidence that it’s use impacts fertility or just a general feeling you have?

PP thinks unwed people shouldn’t have sex

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Sophia had all kind of sex with Scott Dickick. That is how she got this music exec's son to marry her. I give the marriage 2 years. The husband looks like a nerdy man. She was his first sexual experience. He is in love. She is used to Dickick. Nothing to see here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH and I got married in our 20s right after law school, in 2015. I find the rabid DCUM defense of old marriage and parenthood pretty silly. I hope I am raising kids who are mature enough to follow in our footsteps, not stuck in a decade-long adolescence.

So you got lucky and met your life partner in your early/mid 20s. Why do you think that makes you better than someone who doesn’t meet the right person until they’re 30? I would’ve loved to marry my college BF in a different life, except he cheated on me.

I don’t think I’m “better than” you. I think that people should universally be ready to pick out a mate by 26-29, and actively be looking for that, rather than indulging in prolonged adolescence.

26 to 29 is late and already a shallow dating pool full of leftovers and baggage. Teens and college-aged young adults should be mindful of who they socialize with and date. Marrying a high school sweetheart is not weird or small-minded, it’s incredibly pure and romantic. Same for marrying that classmate you met during welcome week of college or in a study group your third year. Teach your children to take friendships and relationships seriously very early on. Value their reputation. Don’t treat dating like it’s an app carelessly swiping and discarding. Set a goal that you’d like to marry soon after college and don’t waste time with non-serious men or women. Men and women lacked this goal because it wasn’t seen as cool by pop culture. With celebs like Sofia marrying so young, young adults [now] have cool and gorgeous celebs to mirror.

If you have a daughter, I feel for her- probably sleeping with whoever because you've taught her her only purpose in life is to breed ASAP.

[Anonymous]

In my experience when someone has a baby before age ~26 the mother’s parents end up being the ones raising the kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm all for it if that's what they want - of my friends (both guys and gals) that waited to marry into their 30s most settled for partners they wouldn't have ever dated when they were a little younger - and we are only talking early-mid thirties vs. mid-late 20s - but the younger marriages just seemed to last AND be a lot more fun and compatible.

Less baggage, building a life together, no fertility challenges = bliss.

Imagine thinking you’re going to be a better wife or better husband after serial dating dozens of people, all the lies and broken hearts, Plan B use and maybe an abortion, all sort of mental and relationship baggage, already set in your ways, and let’s be blunt, one or both of you likely feel you’re settling. Then the very high likelihood you have fertility issues. It can work, but it all sets the table for a disaster.

Have you thought to get counseling for your bitterness that Plan B didn’t exist and abortion wasn’t legal when you got knocked up out of wedlock? Your bitterness at having kids derail your life is really concerning.

I think you’re projecting dear because the only point I was making there is that emergency contraception use and abortion scar both men and women, i.e. baggage. They also make young people devalue sex and devalue the creation of life, adding to the lack of maturation and prolonged adolescence which delays marriage and children. For you to flippantly say a child “derails” life really teases out what sort of dark-hearted person I’m communicating with. You are clearly a woman who is currently childless, so you don’t even fully comprehend what you’re saying. I wish you well.

Just because you think this nonsense doesn't make it true for all of society.

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Anonymous wrote:In my experience when someone has a baby before age ~26 the mother’s parents end up being the ones raising the kid.

Your experience is not at all what I have known with my friends or me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH and I got married in our 20s right after law school, in 2015. I find the rabid DCUM defense of old marriage and parenthood pretty silly. I hope I am raising kids who are mature enough to follow in our footsteps, not stuck in a decade-long adolescence.

So you got lucky and met your life partner in your early/mid 20s. Why do you think that makes you better than someone who doesn’t meet the right person until they’re 30? I would’ve loved to marry my college BF in a different life, except he cheated on me.

I don’t think I’m “better than” you. I think that people should universally be ready to pick out a mate by 26-29, and actively be looking for that, rather than indulging in prolonged adolescence.

26 to 29 is late and already a shallow dating pool full of leftovers and baggage. Teens and college-aged young adults should be mindful of who they socialize with and date. Marrying a high school sweetheart is not weird or small-minded, it’s incredibly pure and romantic. Same for marrying that classmate you met during welcome week of college or in a study group your third year. Teach your children to take friendships and relationships seriously very early on. Value their reputation. Don’t treat dating like it’s an app carelessly swiping and discarding. Set a goal that you’d like to marry soon after college and don’t waste time with non-serious men or women. Men and women lacked this goal because it wasn’t seen as cool by pop culture. With celebs like Sofia marrying so young, young adults [now] have cool and gorgeous celebs to mirror.

If you have a daughter, I feel for her- probably sleeping with whoever because you've taught her her only purpose in life is to breed ASAP.

What precisely is incorrect in or do you disagree with in the previous post?