MCPS Teachers Quitting? Who is replacing them?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


That’s not really what is happening. Teachers are bogged down with too many responsibilities. The teacher above has been asked to teach two classes simultaneously. What would you like that teacher to do? It isn’t that she is “barely instructing.” She is actually instructing another group of students while one group does independent work. She’s doing two jobs at once.

I once had two different levels of a class simultaneously. I had to plan for both (honors and on-level). I then had to instruct both, providing different assessments and assignments. There were 36 students in that combined class. Yes, sometimes students had to work independently as I checked on the other group. Was I “barely instructing”? The opposite… I was doing the work of 2.

Please try to understand what’s going on. This isn’t lazy teaching.


FTR, I wasn’t criticizing the teacher stuck with teaching two classes simultaneously. Rather, I’m criticizing a system that thinks a teacher can and should teach two classes simultaneously. Why stop at two? Sigh.

Similarly, I think elementary students should be grouped by ability and switch classes for reading and math.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


Then, go to private. This is what MCPS offers. Take it or leave it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


Then, go to private. This is what MCPS offers. Take it or leave it.


While I get that many people aren’t equipped to effect change, I hope people will launch a mutiny that fuels change. Ymmv.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?
Anonymous
I think I speak for the vast majority of teacher colleagues when I say make the bastard admins teach the classes and fraud their own numbers for their bonuses.
Anonymous
This seems more like a Q conspiracy board riling up their base then one about MCPS
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?


What influx of students are you talking about? Is this some dog whistle?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?


Of course it is! And it’s not just the increase in numbers of students. Any of these additional students are not being well-supported at home, or they don’t speak English, or they have other needs that keep them from effectively participating in a classroom.

Our politicians and people who want to pretend that is not the truth are being dishonest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?


What influx of students are you talking about? Is this some dog whistle?


Are stats from mcps regarding student demographics a dog whistle…or just facts?

ICYMI: the county’s demographics have changed over the last 20-30 years. It’s impacting our tax base…hint: shrinking tax base as affluent boomers died or moved to NoVA or FL while also stretching our schools…which are obviously supported by taxes…which is why the county plans to increase taxes.

Did you miss the threads by irate parents regarding the elimination of Halloween from schools in response to immigrant parents and their religious beliefs?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?


What influx of students are you talking about? Is this some dog whistle?


Are stats from mcps regarding student demographics a dog whistle…or just facts?

ICYMI: the county’s demographics have changed over the last 20-30 years. It’s impacting our tax base…hint: shrinking tax base as affluent boomers died or moved to NoVA or FL while also stretching our schools…which are obviously supported by taxes…which is why the county plans to increase taxes.

Did you miss the threads by irate parents regarding the elimination of Halloween from schools in response to immigrant parents and their religious beliefs? [/quote

Those weren't threads by parents. They were right wing agitators posting to stir up fear and anxiety. ]
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?


What influx of students are you talking about? Is this some dog whistle?


Seems like their post is straight out of the white grievan nationalist playbook.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?


What influx of students are you talking about? Is this some dog whistle?


Are stats from mcps regarding student demographics a dog whistle…or just facts?

ICYMI: the county’s demographics have changed over the last 20-30 years. It’s impacting our tax base…hint: shrinking tax base as affluent boomers died or moved to NoVA or FL while also stretching our schools…which are obviously supported by taxes…which is why the county plans to increase taxes.

Did you miss the threads by irate parents regarding the elimination of Halloween from schools in response to immigrant parents and their religious beliefs? [/quote

Those weren't threads by parents. They were right wing agitators posting to stir up fear and anxiety. ]


Lol.

I’m a lifelong liberal who is annoyed that Halloween was canceled by mcps, and I know plenty of liberal parents and teachers who feel the same way and posted on those threads.

ICYMI: MoCo is overwhelmingly Blue. Mcps has been overwhelmingly Blue. But if you observe the data, our shifting demographics are likely to begin inching our politics to Red. Immigrants tend to be more religious and thus more politically conservative. Of course, many newcomers can’t vote right away. As their children get older and vote, MoCo is likely to shift right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?


Let’s do a test- How would you limit class sizes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can imagine many of the less popular AP classes moving to virtual. That would free up staff for other courses. Expect more full time subs in schools. I don’t foresee large scale lecture style courses for a variety of reasons. Perhaps fewer special programs since those staff might be needed for core classes.

In my 11th grade elective I have two separate courses together. I switch back and forth between groups depending on which one needs more direct instruction or supervision. I have structured the courses so that they could be entirely done online since this was almost a necessity last year with so many kids out.


This is depressing. Truly.

…”depending who needs instruction or supervision…”

In private school as well as in college, the entire class session requires actual instruction.

We’ve devolved to a place where teachers barely instruct and far too much time is spent on independent work. No wonder kids are checked out.


In private school and college they control for the number of students in the institution. Additionally, in college there are frequently large classes. The professor/teacher instructs and there is little attention given to whether the students are actually understanding. If they don’t understand that’s what office hours, study groups, and tutors are for, so still lots of independent learning.


Sure.

But what I’m seeing in mcps is very limited instruction followed by a lot of independent work. That’s not the norm in private schools. Why is it the norm in public? Primarily because teachers are expected to magically teach at multiple levels. And this thread has opened my eyes to teachers simultaneously teaching entirely different courses. What nonsense!

Class size must be limited.

Kids must receive direct instruction at their level—not get a quick overview and then work independently for 30 minutes, and not “learn” via Chromebook assignments during class time.

Perhaps the influx in students is negatively impacting classroom instruction and outcomes? Any truth to that? If so, is anyone willing to say that out loud?


Let’s do a test- How would you limit class sizes?


Any post that contains phrases like "I'm a lifelong Democrat BUT.." and goes on to present Fox News talking points is suspect.
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