Why is Pomona so special?

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

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you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I mean, is that somehow different from most other LACs in Pomona's league? I grew up in Pasadena and trust me, I'm no fan of the Inland Empire (although most people really don't consider Claremont part of that) but I'd say Claremont and its surrounding areas have more going on than Williamstown or Amherst, MA or Middlebury or whatever LAC you deem "acceptable."

What do you mean about more going on in the surrounding areas?

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I mean, is that somehow different from most other LACs in Pomona's league? I grew up in Pasadena and trust me, I'm no fan of the Inland Empire (although most people really don't consider Claremont part of that) but I'd say Claremont and its surrounding areas have more going on than Williamstown or Amherst, MA or Middlebury or whatever LAC you deem "acceptable."

What do you mean about more going on in the surrounding areas?

Pomona is in a metro area of about 18 million people. The others...are not.

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Anonymous wrote:Who says it is “so special”?

US News?

OP: it’s extremely hard to get in and very highly ranked, so the question was, what is all the hullabaloo about?

Are you pretending to be dumb? Look at what components go into rankings, and you'll see what makes Pomona at or near the top of all the LAC rankings.

If I have to spell it out: Pomona is doing well because relative to other peer LACs, it excels in these factors and many more:
- Graduation and retention rates
- Selectivity and caliber of the entering students
- Post grad outcomes and earning potential
- Students receiving competitive fellowships and/or getting into top med/law/business schools
- Financial aid generosity
- Diversity
- Financial resources/endowment
- Faculty resources/salaries
- Student satisfaction surveys

Goodness. This thread is embarrassing. All these roundabout conversations that really have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

PP, are you pretending to be that dumb? The 5Cs have been caught no less than 2 times fudging their numbers. So, there.

Hi Pomona troll. Nice to see you back on another thread. As we discussed last time, the 5Cs are completely separate entities that share location and resources, so saying “the 5Cs” did anything is meaningless. But of course you remember that from last time you got smacked down by everyone for making these meaningless claims.

Are they completely separate, in the way that Haverford, Bryn Mawr and Swarthmore are?

You can fairly easily walk from BM to Haverford.

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I mean, is that somehow different from most other LACs in Pomona's league? I grew up in Pasadena and trust me, I'm no fan of the Inland Empire (although most people really don't consider Claremont part of that) but I'd say Claremont and its surrounding areas have more going on than Williamstown or Amherst, MA or Middlebury or whatever LAC you deem "acceptable."

What do you mean about more going on in the surrounding areas?

Pomona is in a metro area of about 18 million people. The others...are not.

But it’s kinda like Staten Island out there on the eastern edge.

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I mean, is that somehow different from most other LACs in Pomona's league? I grew up in Pasadena and trust me, I'm no fan of the Inland Empire (although most people really don't consider Claremont part of that) but I'd say Claremont and its surrounding areas have more going on than Williamstown or Amherst, MA or Middlebury or whatever LAC you deem "acceptable."

What do you mean about more going on in the surrounding areas?

Pomona is in a metro area of about 18 million people. The others...are not.

My guess is that folks pick Amherst, Middlebury, Williams as they want that surrounding area, even if it is sparsely populated. These schools and Pomona have a lot in common in re rigor, etc, but very different settings and probably attract different kids.

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I didn't know it was special, so that answers the question.

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

I uh, actually, uh, lived there. Trust me, there are mountains in LA County.

ts rolling through.

And, I too, live there and have been on campus many times. It is HOT as a PP mentioned because all of that land used to be a dried-up flat ocean bed with a few tumbleweeds going by.
What you call "mountains" in So. Cals are, in reality, foothills and "rolling peaks". If you are talking about access to skiing, to get to any real mountains, your student will need a car or borrow one to drive to Big Sur, or Mammoth (the San Bernardino mountains don't count as "mountains" for most skiers - it's mostly for beginning skiers and has very short runs). Clairemont is geographically in the Pomona Valley, an alluvial fan. It is low and flat in three directions. The only "Mountain" near it is the Gabriel Mountain Range to the North West which loses elevation at Clairemont and Ontario andterminates/ at Cajon pass. To the North there is a hilly park above Clairemont called Clairemont Hill Wilderness Park. Once upon a time, there was a nice restaurant there for after-graduation meals To skip properly, you must make a long drive upstate to Mammoth, or Lake Tahoe. I had no car and didn't have to money to do that trip. So the location is not the be it all for some that the brochures and marketing make it out to be. You must have a car to get to any of those places. (or figure out rail or bus. It is hot but sunny. I don't like the air quality

Snow capped San Gabriel mountains. Google it.

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I mean, is that somehow different from most other LACs in Pomona's league? I grew up in Pasadena and trust me, I'm no fan of the Inland Empire (although most people really don't consider Claremont part of that) but I'd say Claremont and its surrounding areas have more going on than Williamstown or Amherst, MA or Middlebury or whatever LAC you deem "acceptable."

What do you mean about more going on in the surrounding areas?

Pomona is in a metro area of about 18 million people. The others...are not.

But it’s kinda like Staten Island out there on the eastern edge.

nothing like Staten Island

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I mean, is that somehow different from most other LACs in Pomona's league? I grew up in Pasadena and trust me, I'm no fan of the Inland Empire (although most people really don't consider Claremont part of that) but I'd say Claremont and its surrounding areas have more going on than Williamstown or Amherst, MA or Middlebury or whatever LAC you deem "acceptable."

What do you mean about more going on in the surrounding areas?

Pomona is in a metro area of about 18 million people. The others...are not.

But it’s kinda like Staten Island out there on the eastern edge.

sure, but if you don't want to be in a small sparsely populated area like Middlebury or whatever, staten island -- with plenty of restaurants, coffee shops, bars, etc., and manhattan easily accessible if there's an event on the weekend or if you want a day in the city -- is probably preferable, no?

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I can’t imagine you went to one of the 5Cs without hearing about anyone going to Mount Baldy. [Well I went there for four years, and you obviously didn't so STFU.]

My kid goes up that way all the time. I mean, why wouldn’t you? Among other things, there’s apparently a brew pub up that way that they enjoy. [You don't actually know anything, you're just repeating what your kid says = ignorant opinion]

And as for “many miles around” being boring suburbia — why the weird gas lighting? My kid’s apartment sits 1.25 miles from the border of the Angles National Forest and 13 miles as the crow flies from the summit of Mt San Antonio (aka Mt Baldy) at 10,064 feet. Who are you trying to kid? You’re as silly as the “THeY’RE rOLlINg HiLls” poster.

[Again: I went there for four years. I know what I'm talking about. You don't. Claremont and the surrounding towns are boring suburbia.]

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

Just stop. The mountains of Angeles Forest are not blocked by smog from Claremont. It's literally a couple of miles from the BASE of those mountains.

Sometimes they are obscured from the coast (or from UCLA - closer to your beaches), but not even "all the time".

Just stop. I lived there. I know. You don't. If you're in Claremont, you very often cannot see the mountains due to the smog.

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

I mean, is that somehow different from most other LACs in Pomona's league? I grew up in Pasadena and trust me, I'm no fan of the Inland Empire (although most people really don't consider Claremont part of that) but I'd say Claremont and its surrounding areas have more going on than Williamstown or Amherst, MA or Middlebury or whatever LAC you deem "acceptable."

To be sure, there is more to do in boring suburbia than there is when you're out in the country as in Williams and Middlebury but what's "going on" in boring suburbia is strip malls, chain stores, and fast food restaurants. If you're OK with that, then that's fine.

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US News?

OP: it’s extremely hard to get in and very highly ranked, so the question was, what is all the hullabaloo about?

Are you pretending to be dumb? Look at what components go into rankings, and you'll see what makes Pomona at or near the top of all the LAC rankings.

If I have to spell it out: Pomona is doing well because relative to other peer LACs, it excels in these factors and many more:
- Graduation and retention rates
- Selectivity and caliber of the entering students
- Post grad outcomes and earning potential
- Students receiving competitive fellowships and/or getting into top med/law/business schools
- Financial aid generosity
- Diversity
- Financial resources/endowment
- Faculty resources/salaries
- Student satisfaction surveys

Goodness. This thread is embarrassing. All these roundabout conversations that really have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

PP, are you pretending to be that dumb? The 5Cs have been caught no less than 2 times fudging their numbers. So, there.

Hi Pomona troll. Nice to see you back on another thread. As we discussed last time, the 5Cs are completely separate entities that share location and resources, so saying “the 5Cs” did anything is meaningless. But of course you remember that from last time you got smacked down by everyone for making these meaningless claims.

Are they completely separate, in the way that Haverford, Bryn Mawr and Swarthmore are?

Physically they are on a single campus, meaning you can skateboard from your Pitzer dorm to your Pomona class. Each college is distinct but on a single property. They have a unified course registration process where you can choose from classes across all the schools. They are separate in that they each manage their own admissions, have their own faculty, confer their own degree, they are each managed independently. The history of this is that the President of Pomona almost 100 years ago envisioned an Oxford-like campus of LACs on the west coast and convinced the Scripps family to donate the land. The whole campus is on thie piece of land but they're all built separately and have separate endowments, etc. They share sports teams, I think it is Pitzer and Pomona are one team and Claremont McKenna, Harvey mud and Scripps are the other.

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

Just stop. The mountains of Angeles Forest are not blocked by smog from Claremont. It's literally a couple of miles from the BASE of those mountains.

Sometimes they are obscured from the coast (or from UCLA - closer to your beaches), but not even "all the time".

Just stop. I lived there. I know. You don't. If you're in Claremont, you very often cannot see the mountains due to the smog.

And you know this, how? You are incorrect in this assumption.

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Anonymous wrote:Location isn't that great either. Very far from the beach and downtown LA, very smoggy.

It's one of those cases where "it's great because everyone thinks it's great".

Basically the beaches are at one end of LA county and the school is at the other. DD really liked the campus - as well as Pitzer - but the drive from our hotel in Santa Monica to the Claremont campuses, then back in one hot afternoon was not lost on her.

Yeah, it makes sense that the beaches are in part of LA county that’s … by … the … ocean.

LA is one of the US' largest counties and is roughly 800 square miles larger than a combined Delaware and Rhode Island. Most 17 and 18 year olds don't know that. They hear LA, they think of Hollywood, the beaches, so yeah, they are not imagining driving 50 miles from one end of the county to the other.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to GoogleMaps. Nice!

Why does everyone assume this is why a student wants to go to Pomona OR that students/families who consider Pomona do not know where it is located? Perhaps your view if LA is beaches and Hollywood...but that doesn't mean everyone else's does.

Our child is interested in Pomona and the only way LA is remotely involved is that it makes it close enough to transportation so that getting there from accoss the country is not a nightmare. They have no interest in the beach or Hollywood. They like the idea of nice weather and are far more interested in exploring internal land features of CA via trips while they are there (Joshua Tree/Yosemite/Redwoods/Desert). They like the school because of the small size of the college with access to 7000 kids over multiple schools. They like a place where kids live on campus 4 years as a community.

Please. DC lives on the East coast and had never been to California, but is a creature of social media. So yeah, thoughts of the beach popped when they first heard that Pomona, which was suggested to them by their college counselor, is in LA. That doesn't seem so far-fetched.

DC ultimately decided they wanted a school that was not that far from home as well as easily accessible to the outdoors - right outside their dorm door. They are now at a top NESCAC.

It’s in LA County. Big county. Ocean and mountains. Trees too. Last I checked, Pomona was easily accessible to the outdoors.

Clearly,
you haven't been there. There are trees on campus, but it's in a desert wasteland. There are hills behind it. It's flat. very flat. That's
what Claremont/Ontario is. FLAT. And no one from out there would say it's in Los Angeles County. It's on the far east end of Los Angeles county near San Bernardino. Do you have any idea how big Los Angeles County is? And that descriptor isn't a positive anymore.

These are the “hills” PP is talking about, they include a 10,000 foot “hill.” My kid who is at one of the 5Cs spends a lot of time in the Angeles National Forest because it’s right nearby.

Around 5 miles from campus, according to googlemaps. Nice!

When I was there I never heard of anyone going to Mt Baldy. That photo is deceptive, a view of the mountains is very uncommon, mostly they are obscured by smog.

The way I would describe the area around campus for many miles is “boring suburbia” - somewhat like if you went to GMU.

Just stop. The mountains of Angeles Forest are not blocked by smog from Claremont. It's literally a couple of miles from the BASE of those mountains.

Sometimes they are obscured from the coast (or from UCLA - closer to your beaches), but not even "all the time".

Just stop. I lived there. I know. You don't. If you're in Claremont, you very often cannot see the mountains due to the smog.

And you know this, how? You are incorrect in this assumption.

Please stop feeding the troll. It's one person making all these comments, and they're enjoying it immensely when you try to change their mind. It's not going to happen.