I disagree with Rowling on trans-issues *and* I think Rowling's critics are dishonest

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Anonymous wrote:I encourage people to sub to the New York Times and read Paul's article, but I'd like to add some excerpts here.

Other critics have advocated that bookstores pull her books from the shelves, and some bookstores have done so. She has also been subjected to verbal abuse, doxxing and threats of sexual and other physical violence, including death threats.

Now, in rare and wide-ranging interviews for the podcast series “The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling,” which begins next week, Rowling is sharing her experiences. “I have had direct threats of violence, and I have had people coming to my house where my kids live, and I’ve had my address posted online,” she says in one of the interviews. “I’ve had what the police, anyway, would regard as credible threats.”

But nothing Rowling has said qualifies as transphobic. She is not disputing the existence of gender dysphoria. She has never voiced opposition to allowing people to transition under evidence-based therapeutic and medical care. She is not denying transgender people equal pay or housing. There is no evidence that she is putting trans people “in danger,” as has been claimed, nor is she denying their right to exist.

Take it from one of her former critics. E.J. Rosetta, a journalist who once denounced Rowling for her supposed transphobia, was commissioned last year to write an article called “20 Transphobic J.K. Rowling Quotes We’re Done With.” After 12 weeks of reporting and reading, Rosetta wrote, “I’ve not found a single truly transphobic message.” On Twitter she declared, “You’re burning the wrong witch.”

Despite media coverage that can be embarrassingly credulous when it comes to the charges against Rowling, a small number of influential journalists have also begun speaking out in her defense. Here in America, Caitlin Flanagan of The Atlantic tweeted last year, “Eventually, she will be proven right, and the high cost she’s paid for sticking to her beliefs will be seen as the choice of a principled person.”

Her interviewer on this podcast is a former member of the Westboro Baptist Church, who says she recognizes cult tactics in the rhetoric and attacks that people make on JKR. Seriously, I feel like I'm also coming out of a cult. I was brainwashed by gender ideology too. Can't wait for this podcast now.

I’m so grateful to JKR and her part in a necessary awakening.

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Another thing I don't get - we all see that there is an explosion in teens identifying as trans/non-binary. The vast majority of those teens are white girls saying they are non-binary or actually boys. Hardly any boys claiming to be non-binary/actually girls.

Yet the loudest voices from the adults are trans-women. I get why Fox News would push that perspective because it is scarier than trans-men. You could definitely start more culture wars around trans-women.

But where are all the trans-men voices out there? You'd think they'd be more prevalent given the explosion of teen girls going through this issue.

I believe most of us are in the middle with this issue - we believe what DeSantis is doing regarding trans people is wrong. But we also believe that JK brings up very valid points and her critics are absolutely wrong to silence her.

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Anonymous wrote:Another thing I don't get - we all see that there is an explosion in teens identifying as trans/non-binary. The vast majority of those teens are white girls saying they are non-binary or actually boys. Hardly any boys claiming to be non-binary/actually girls.

Yet the loudest voices from the adults are trans-women. I get why Fox News would push that perspective because it is scarier than trans-men. You could definitely start more culture wars around trans-women.

But where are all the trans-men voices out there? You'd think they'd be more prevalent given the explosion of teen girls going through this issue.

I believe most of us are in the middle with this issue - we believe what DeSantis is doing regarding trans people is wrong. But we also believe that JK brings up very valid points and her critics are absolutely wrong to silence her.

I disagree with you here.
I have seen more young women on Fox who have detransitioned than transwomen. These were women who were gender confused as kids, had drug therapy and in many cases, top surgery and now fully regret it.
I don't understand how anyone can allow this to be done to a minor.

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Anonymous wrote:I really empathize with parents with gender dysphoric kids. They are told by one side that if they dont transition their kids, the kid will kill themselves.

By the other side, they are told that if they do transition the kid, they are mutilating them and chopping off their body parts and sentencing them to a life of infertility, lack of a functional sex life, and ongoing medical intervention.

This is too much for parents. Something has to give. And the science seems to be on the side of transition skeptics.

Kids don’t really get surgery. If you’re worried about this, then that’s fine, push to ban surgery under 18. Once they are adults, obviously they can do what they want. If you’re concerned about fertility, some women freeze sperm so you could help pay for that. Some trans men stop taking hormones temporarily in order to regain fertility, get pregnant, then go back on HRT. That’s why the term pregnant man exists. There’s also the option of freezing eggs. The truth is though, most trans men just don’t want to get pregnant. You can’t force someone to get pregnant, fertile or not.

1) 16 and up have gotten top surgery

2) puberty blockers and hormones are enough to cause permanent damage. As one example, they thin the skin in the vaginal canal can so much that they cant have sex without serious injury requiring surgical repair. Parents are not warned of side effects, they are not being given an opportunity for informed consent. This is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:But where are all the trans-men voices out there?

There’s a saying in the trans community. Trans men are invisible and trans women are hyper visible. This is because it’s easier for trans men to pass as cis than trans women. When trans men don’t pass, they are usually seen as GNC women or butch lesbians. There is no GNC or feminine man. A trans man can get top surgery or bind and dress in men’s clothes and be seen as very butch. A trans woman grows breasts on estrogen and wears women’s clothes but if she doesn’t pass, she’s visibly trans.

People that pass are more often to live their lives with their trans identity hidden to the world (called stealth). This also leads to the conclusion that all trans people are non passing stereotypes. So what you end up with are a lot of non passing trans women activists. There are trans men and NB AFAB activists as well obviously (Luxander comes to mind as a nonbinary AFAB trans activist).

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Why do so many people care about what Rowling thinks about trans people?

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Charlie Kirk thinks he has the answer - just lynch them all like they used to in the '50s.

https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1626747081275715585

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Anonymous wrote:Charlie Kirk thinks he has the answer - just lynch them all like they used to in the '50s.

https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1626747081275715585

He must have skipped ahead in the Republican master plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do so many people care about what Rowling thinks about trans people?

Because she‘s somewhat famous and trans activists are very intolerant with critics or different viewpoints.

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Anonymous wrote:

That was great thanks !