23 Baltimore City Schools Have Zero Students Proficient in Math

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Last one, now that I have learned to post pictures. These are all from the MD state released items/practice test 3rd grade Math test:



I think it is tricky, for a third grader. Yes, of course, I think it would be wonderful for all third graders to be able to answer a question like this that shows they are truly able to understand the application of math. Instead of just asking a simple question: "What is the area of this rectangle?"

But - the fact that many students aren't able to answer questions like this doesn't mean they are learning nothing in math. Just that these questions are pretty tricky for them to understand.


I think it's important to point out that a lot of these word problems were made because of allegations from marxists that math is somehow racist against black people - that they can't understand abstract concepts (which is in itself an extremely racist viewpoint but one pushed by many black civil rights advocates). But of course they will understand things like "tyrone has five mixtapes and lost two" or "uncle jim is painting a garage." It is, however, ironic that the black kids in baltimore schools cannot even answer the contextualized questions that the education marxists have forced into the curriculum


Dude, you need to brush up on your Marxism before you open your mouth. Karl Marx did not give a crap about math - or its influence on black people. Geez.


Shockingly, Marxism has continued to be a thing since he died...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.

2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last one, now that I have learned to post pictures. These are all from the MD state released items/practice test 3rd grade Math test:



I think it is tricky, for a third grader. Yes, of course, I think it would be wonderful for all third graders to be able to answer a question like this that shows they are truly able to understand the application of math. Instead of just asking a simple question: "What is the area of this rectangle?"

But - the fact that many students aren't able to answer questions like this doesn't mean they are learning nothing in math. Just that these questions are pretty tricky for them to understand.


I think it's important to point out that a lot of these word problems were made because of allegations from marxists that math is somehow racist against black people - that they can't understand abstract concepts (which is in itself an extremely racist viewpoint but one pushed by many black civil rights advocates). But of course they will understand things like "tyrone has five mixtapes and lost two" or "uncle jim is painting a garage." It is, however, ironic that the black kids in baltimore schools cannot even answer the contextualized questions that the education marxists have forced into the curriculum


Dude, you need to brush up on your Marxism before you open your mouth. Karl Marx did not give a crap about math - or its influence on black people. Geez.


No, "dude," YOU need to brush up. Critical theory, which has spawned ideas like intersectionality and other racial justice theories, originates to a large extent in marxist thought. I said marxist because people like you have no idea what critical social theory is
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.

2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?


NP. Let’s incentive lower-SES parents to give a shit. For each child with at least a C-average and no more than 5 missed days of school during a semester, you get a check for $250. If your child is also in the top 25% of their class (and no more than 5 missed days), you get an extra $250. That’s per semester, so you can get up to $1,000 per kid per year for attendance + performance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.


2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?


NP. Let’s incentive lower-SES parents to give a shit. For each child with at least a C-average and no more than 5 missed days of school during a semester, you get a check for $250. If your child is also in the top 25% of their class (and no more than 5 missed days), you get an extra $250. That’s per semester, so you can get up to $1,000 per kid per year for attendance + performance.


Make that apply only for folks making below the median income.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.


2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?


NP. Let’s incentive lower-SES parents to give a shit. For each child with at least a C-average and no more than 5 missed days of school during a semester, you get a check for $250. If your child is also in the top 25% of their class (and no more than 5 missed days), you get an extra $250. That’s per semester, so you can get up to $1,000 per kid per year for attendance + performance.


Make that apply only for folks making below the median income.


Finally, let’s eliminate compulsory education laws. If your child doesn’t go to school, the penalty is they are uneducated, you lose out on the offered incentives, and you compound your own generational wealth disparity. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.

2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?


NP. Let’s incentive lower-SES parents to give a shit. For each child with at least a C-average and no more than 5 missed days of school during a semester, you get a check for $250. If your child is also in the top 25% of their class (and no more than 5 missed days), you get an extra $250. That’s per semester, so you can get up to $1,000 per kid per year for attendance + performance.


Something... anything... giving kids all the boosts and then them returning home to a household that doesnt value their education wont get you very far. Thats why equity in schools can only work by bringing kids down. Parents are the only people that can improve equity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.

2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?


NP. Let’s incentive lower-SES parents to give a shit. For each child with at least a C-average and no more than 5 missed days of school during a semester, you get a check for $250. If your child is also in the top 25% of their class (and no more than 5 missed days), you get an extra $250. That’s per semester, so you can get up to $1,000 per kid per year for attendance + performance.


Something... anything... giving kids all the boosts and then them returning home to a household that doesnt value their education wont get you very far. Thats why equity in schools can only work by bringing kids down. Parents are the only people that can improve equity.


I imagine if the parents can get paid for their kids performance, we suddenly don’t need to provide any supports. Providing cash to parents for performance (rather than to schools to offer additional supports) is almost certainly a cheaper way to boost performance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I worked in Baltimore schools for many years. I think there are multiple issues here. One is that “progress” might be a better metric than “proficient “.
A year or more of progress is both positive and significant— even if it’s still below the level of “proficient “.
Another is to ask what population norms are being used to determine what is “proficient”.

My recommendation would be to fund something like the Harlem Children’s Zone— providing wrap around services and resources from birth.








So basically the government need to fully cover parenting and child rearing from birth? Both financially pay for services and provide paid staff to do so
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.

2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?


NP. Let’s incentive lower-SES parents to give a shit. For each child with at least a C-average and no more than 5 missed days of school during a semester, you get a check for $250. If your child is also in the top 25% of their class (and no more than 5 missed days), you get an extra $250. That’s per semester, so you can get up to $1,000 per kid per year for attendance + performance.


The majority of the students that are not proficient are actually receiving As and have GPAs that are well above passing. The schools are a celebration of dysfunction at every level. There are many stories of parents being confused because their child has a 4.0 but cannot read.
Anonymous
The parents already get cash on their "cards".
Anonymous
Proves Republicans are better than Democrats

All schools in Alabama have at least some kids that are proficient in math.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.

2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?


NP. Let’s incentive lower-SES parents to give a shit. For each child with at least a C-average and no more than 5 missed days of school during a semester, you get a check for $250. If your child is also in the top 25% of their class (and no more than 5 missed days), you get an extra $250. That’s per semester, so you can get up to $1,000 per kid per year for attendance + performance.


The majority of the students that are not proficient are actually receiving As and have GPAs that are well above passing. The schools are a celebration of dysfunction at every level. There are many stories of parents being confused because their child has a 4.0 but cannot read.


This is just ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work as a case manager in DC and have worked in Baltimore city in the past.

A couple things:

1) DCUM always talks about how these kids are growing up in homes where parents are working two jobs. Uh no. The vast majority of these parents are not working and never have. Their parents never worked. Lets get real here. The kids coming from households where parents are working two job are actually THE SUCCESS stories.
They are very rare but those parents tend to be involved in the lives of their kids. It's not PC to talk about this but there are generations of kids born to parents who don't work, have never worked and make bad decision after bad decision. Almost every pregnancy (out of wed lock and to parents with no jobs) is purposeful. I work for a medicaid
plan in DC and one of our most often requested services for young women is IVF (which we don't pay for). A lot of people are in the hell of their own making. Really, really, really bad decision making. Some of it is just cultural, some of it is due to drug and alcohol use, some is due to low IQ. People who don't have one of these things
working against the usually rise out of poverty into the working class.

2)If you really want to help people rise above poverty then their first, second, and third need is housing. You need to give people free housing. It's the biggest obstacle to upward mobility in cities, especially cities like DC. Anyone who works with the poor in DC hears requests for housing at a rate of 10 times anything else. We hear it all day, every day. If we could fix housing, we could fix just about anything. But this is very, very expensive to house people, especially in DC. And it is super expensive to house people who don't work and who will never work (frankly who don't intend to work, have mental illness so they can't work, have 4, 5, 8, 12 children and can't work, etc). I mean, in DC it's $24k-48K per year, per household. It's very tricky because most of the people who work with the poor (as nurses, case workers, social workers, etc) can't even afford to live in DC themselves.

Anyway, some very complex issues that won't be solved in our generation. But housing would be a good start.



Do you think eliminating any and all benefits connected to kids and only supplying kids with food, clothes etc at school would solve the problem?


NP. Let’s incentive lower-SES parents to give a shit. For each child with at least a C-average and no more than 5 missed days of school during a semester, you get a check for $250. If your child is also in the top 25% of their class (and no more than 5 missed days), you get an extra $250. That’s per semester, so you can get up to $1,000 per kid per year for attendance + performance.


The majority of the students that are not proficient are actually receiving As and have GPAs that are well above passing. The schools are a celebration of dysfunction at every level. There are many stories of parents being confused because their child has a 4.0 but cannot read.


This is just ridiculous.


Ridiculous in that it's not actually true.
Anonymous
I should buy a house there so my high achieving kid can get into Harvard.
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