Satanic Temple to offer abortion services in New Mexico

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another example of the good work these Satanists do.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/national/satanic-temple-displays-goat-headed-statue-arkansas-state-capitol/7pI9a9EsEx0eXSiRQESckN/

Briefly displaying a statue of the Devil, who they don’t believe in, is good works?

That’s ridiculous.

To show the constitutional problem with you showing your statue?

Yes, that is very good works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are completely missing the point. Nobody here is running out to join the ST.

The entire point is that we don’t want god - or the devil - in our doctor’s office. Or government. Or school.

Right wing religious nuts can’t help but to take these things literally. They don’t understand satire.

DP. You’re completely missing the point. And all your insults don’t hide the fact that you’re obtuse, whether unintentionally or deliberately.

We want pro-choice money to go to the other women’s groups who are well managed, not run by racist eugenics supporters, and don’t force women to join or convert to atheism as part of a fund raising publicity stunt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another example of the good work these Satanists do.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/national/satanic-temple-displays-goat-headed-statue-arkansas-state-capitol/7pI9a9EsEx0eXSiRQESckN/

Briefly displaying a statue of the Devil, who they don’t believe in, is good works?

That’s ridiculous.

To show the constitutional problem with you showing your statue?

Yes, that is very good works.

DP. You’ve got to be trolling with this garbage.

[Anonymous]

https://www.patreon.com/LucienGreaves

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So Lucien doesn’t have a degree and lies that he does, from Harvard, no less.

Pays his bills and expenses by using money donated for women’s abortion rights, and basically begs people online for money because “they like him.”

And he’s a racist, anri-Semitic, eugenic supporting, white power grifter? What’s not to love? /s

[Anonymous]

https://www.patreon.com/LucienGreaves

Here’s the link, to his patreon. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another example of the good work these Satanists do.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/national/satanic-temple-displays-goat-headed-statue-arkansas-state-capitol/7pI9a9EsEx0eXSiRQESckN/

Briefly displaying a statue of the Devil, who they don’t believe in, is good works?

That’s ridiculous.

To show the constitutional problem with you showing your statue?

Yes, that is very good works.

DP. You’ve got to be trolling with this garbage.

No.

I get you don't get it. That's why it's good they do it. And your objection illustrates both the problem itself and the irony that escapes those who object.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.patreon.com/LucienGreaves

Here’s the link, to his patreon. Ugh.

Thanks for the links, pp.

Yes, ugh. Greaves/Mesicko/Messner is exploiting an incredibly serious women’s health issue, and diverting money from legitimate women’s groups, for a publicity stunt and membership drive to raise money to support his personal lifestyle, part of which apparently includes white nationalism and eugenics. And on the side he’s coercing terrified New Mexican teens to convert to atheism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And on the side he’s coercing terrified New Mexican teens to convert to atheism.

No one "converts" to atheism. They simply stop believing things they realize there is no evidence for.

It's like "converting" to not being an Eagles fan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.patreon.com/LucienGreaves

Here’s the link, to his patreon. Ugh.

Thanks for the links, pp.

Yes, ugh. Greaves/Mesicko/Messner is exploiting an incredibly serious women’s health issue, and diverting money from legitimate women’s groups, for a publicity stunt and membership drive to raise money to support his personal lifestyle, part of which apparently includes white nationalism and eugenics. And on the side he’s coercing terrified New Mexican teens to convert to atheism.

Can’t tell if you’re joking or actually believe this crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another example of the good work these Satanists do.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/national/satanic-temple-displays-goat-headed-statue-arkansas-state-capitol/7pI9a9EsEx0eXSiRQESckN/

Briefly displaying a statue of the Devil, who they don’t believe in, is good works?

That’s ridiculous.

To show the constitutional problem with you showing your statue?

Yes, that is very good works.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another example of the good work these Satanists do.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/national/satanic-temple-displays-goat-headed-statue-arkansas-state-capitol/7pI9a9EsEx0eXSiRQESckN/

Briefly displaying a statue of the Devil, who they don’t believe in, is good works?

That’s ridiculous.

To show the constitutional problem with you showing your statue?

Yes, that is very good works.

DP. You’ve got to be trolling with this garbage.

No.

I get you don't get it. That's why it's good they do it. And your objection illustrates both the problem itself and the irony that escapes those who object.

All along you’ve had zero response to Greaves’/Messner’s/Misicko’s white nationalism. Nor to his use of funds he raised for abortion to support his personal lifestyle. Nor to the problems around forcing terrified women to convert to atheism and look at a devil sculpture. Nor to the issue of diverting funds from legitimate women’s health groups who are already mailing abortion pills to New Mexico without doing any of this other garbage.

All you have is insults. The irony/complicity of your own support for this charlatan clearly escapes you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

I'm not. I'm asking.

How do you feel about the Catholic church? Any consistency in your beliefs, or ...?

Great question. Maybe PP can answer…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And on the side he’s coercing terrified New Mexican teens to convert to atheism.

No one "converts" to atheism. They simply stop believing things they realize there is no evidence for.

It's like "converting" to not being an Eagles fan.

OK, he’s forcing them to say they don’t believe. Happy?

Now explain why this isn’t coercion. Simply and without insults or dumb emoticons. TIA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are completely missing the point. Nobody here is running out to join the ST.

The entire point is that we don’t want god - or the devil - in our doctor’s office. Or government. Or school.

Well, in order to obtain abortion pills from The Satanic Temple, women have to convert to satanism and say the words of the Satanic Ritual for abortion. So yes, people are becoming Satanist to obtain abortion pills from The Satanic Temple. That’s part of the problem.

Right. That is exactly the point.

We don’t want religion of any kind to be involved in medical care. Wouldn’t you agree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?