Satanic Temple to offer abortion services in New Mexico

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Here is another example of the good work these Satanists do.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/national/satanic-temple-displays-goat-headed-statue-arkansas-state-capitol/7pI9a9EsEx0eXSiRQESckN/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this happening in New Mexico when abortion is not threatened there?

Presumably the pills are being mailed to women in oppressed states where their freedoms have been stolen by fascist religious fanatics who hate America and all that it stands for.

I'm pro-choice and as left as they come, but... you need some chill pills yourself.

Also, there are plenty of places that will mail you pills without requiring you to sign on to their tenets, and who aren't nakedly eliciting donations. Just do a quick google search.

No, I won’t chill out about creeping fascism in this country and the erosion of women’s rights.

And the satanism hook to all this is the satire intended to remind us that is a thing. That’s why this is brilliant.

I’m pro-choice too. If the satanic temple really cared about helping women, they wouldn’t take advantage of women’s fear and panic as a membership, recruitment tool. Or pile on gratuitous layers of mindf*** around supporting if not adopting atheism (the temple membership requirement), Alito’s mom, or pseudo-religious tenets and rituals.

If the ST actually cared about women, they’d just do what all the other women’s health groups do. Which is conduct a zoom health screening and then simply mail out the pills.

If you support the ST’s layers of mindf*** for desperate women, you’re part of the problem.

Their primary goal isn’t to help women; it is to demonstrate that religion has no place in government, schools, medical care, etc.

Keep your bibles and devils out of my uterus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pro-choice, but…

Coercing people to perform satanic rituals (recite two tenets of Satanism per someone’s post above) in exchange for an abortion hardly seems like an improvement. They can talk about not coercing women to get sonograms etc, but they’re still coercing.

All this “wink wink it’s sarcasm” doesn’t alleviate the trauma to a teenager who might still be religious but needs an abortion, and now she has to renounce her religion to get one.

Why couldn’t they just open the door to a doctor on staff?

That's not what the "ritual" is. The "ritual" is the abortion itself, and they're describing it this way to bring it under the protection of the First Amendment.

I get the part about bringing it under the first amendment via freedom of religion. But somebody’s post above clearly stated that women have to recite “two tenets of Satanism.” I have no idea what these tenets are, but they sure sound religious in a Satanic way. Also, that goes beyond the procedure itself to what the women believe. And that’s coercion.

Coercion of women is terrible. Remember mandatory vaginal wandings?

Just get religion and the govt out of gynecology and obstetrics. We will all be better off.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Some people are completely missing the point. Nobody here is running out to join the ST.

The entire point is that we don’t want god - or the devil - in our doctor’s office. Or government. Or school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people are completely missing the point. Nobody here is running out to join the ST.

The entire point is that we don’t want god - or the devil - in our doctor’s office. Or government. Or school.

Right wing religious nuts can’t help but to take these things literally. They don’t understand satire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

Complete garbage group. They have shown zero transparency in how they use/spend the money donated to them for abortion rights advocacy, and admit to using that money for personal expenses.

pretending to be advocates for women and women’s rights and then using money people donate for that purpose to pay your rent is acceptable to their followers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

Complete garbage group. They have shown zero transparency in how they use/spend the money donated to them for abortion rights advocacy, and admit to using that money for personal expenses.

pretending to be advocates for women and women’s rights and then using money people donate for that purpose to pay your rent is acceptable to their followers.

Yes. Let’s keep all religions - including the corrupt ones - out of women’s medical care.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are completely missing the point. Nobody here is running out to join the ST.

The entire point is that we don’t want god - or the devil - in our doctor’s office. Or government. Or school.

Right wing religious nuts can’t help but to take these things literally. They don’t understand satire.

Lucien/Doug calls himself an Aryan King, uses the n-word, and is extremely, openly, anti-Semitic. You are confused or ignoring the reality of the situation. That guy is a right wing nut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are completely missing the point. Nobody here is running out to join the ST.

The entire point is that we don’t want god - or the devil - in our doctor’s office. Or government. Or school.

Right wing religious nuts can’t help but to take these things literally. They don’t understand satire.

Lucien/Doug calls himself an Aryan King, uses the n-word, and is extremely, openly, anti-Semitic. You are confused or ignoring the reality of the situation. That guy is a right wing nut.

I mean, it’s like this stuff goes complete over your head but you think you’ve got some huge expose. Your fixation with it and the fact that it has you so perturbed and worked up is just delicious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some people are completely missing the point. Nobody here is running out to join the ST.

The entire point is that we don’t want god - or the devil - in our doctor’s office. Or government. Or school.

Well, in order to obtain abortion pills from The Satanic Temple, women have to convert to satanism and say the words of the Satanic Ritual for abortion. So yes, people are becoming Satanist to obtain abortion pills from The Satanic Temple. That’s part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would not know it from that apology, but here are some other things Greaves said publicly in the space of 24 hours when he was trying to be heard by as many people as possible promoting a book with that sort of stuff in it:

“In many cases, abortion should be mandatory.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do believe that that type of person should not be allowed to breed.” [Original] [Mirror]
“You got n—-r sodomites on call.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I don’t wanna have a kid if it’s gonna be a r-t-rd or anything like that.” [Original] [Mirror]
“I do envision a better world but a better world has to come with some less people in it. Some particular type people.” [Original] [Mirror]
“Well, [Jews] are a distinct phenotype.” [Original][Mirror]
“I think there should be eugenics policy, population control policy, something that ensures quality reproduction.” [Original][Mirror]

So your stance would be that if a religious institution is harboring people with harmful beliefs or who do terrible things, we should reject that whole institution, then?

Just checking.

Not harboring. Founded and run by.

Can’t believe you’re defending this garbage group.

I'm not. I'm asking.

How do you feel about the Catholic church? Any consistency in your beliefs, or ...?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is another example of the good work these Satanists do.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/national/satanic-temple-displays-goat-headed-statue-arkansas-state-capitol/7pI9a9EsEx0eXSiRQESckN/

Briefly displaying a statue of the Devil, who they don’t believe in, is good works?

That’s ridiculous.