Satanic Temple to offer abortion services in New Mexico

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.patreon.com/LucienGreaves

Here’s the link, to his patreon. Ugh.

Thanks for the links, pp.

Yes, ugh. Greaves/Mesicko/Messner is exploiting an incredibly serious women’s health issue, and diverting money from legitimate women’s groups, for a publicity stunt and membership drive to raise money to support his personal lifestyle, part of which apparently includes white nationalism and eugenics. And on the side he’s coercing terrified New Mexican teens to convert to atheism.

Can’t tell if you’re joking or actually believe this crap.

OK, pls explain, without insults or dumb emoticons or derailments into other religions or reposting dumb cartoons,

1. The post above showing Geaves to be a white nationalist who sports eugenics and ridicules Jews.
2. The court case against Greaves for misappropriating funds given for abortion rights to support his personal lifestyle and that of his cofounder
3. Why it’s ok to force scared teens to renounce their faith as a condition of receiving the pills
4. Why none of this garbage is diverting funding from legitimate, non-coercive women’s health groups.

Otherwise you’re just a troll. Let’s have some answers, finally, or sit the eff down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

He’s forcing them to give up ALL religion in their lives, not just medical care. Why is this so hard to understand?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

He’s forcing them to give up ALL religion in their lives, not just medical care. Why is this so hard to understand?

You still don't get it, but because you don't want to, not because you are too stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.patreon.com/LucienGreaves

Here’s the link, to his patreon. Ugh.

Thanks for the links, pp.

Yes, ugh. Greaves/Mesicko/Messner is exploiting an incredibly serious women’s health issue, and diverting money from legitimate women’s groups, for a publicity stunt and membership drive to raise money to support his personal lifestyle, part of which apparently includes white nationalism and eugenics. And on the side he’s coercing terrified New Mexican teens to convert to atheism.

Crazy stuff.

The other half of the Satanic Temple “leadership” produced a “documentary” claiming that drinking your own urine can cure serious diseases (including cancer, HIV, and AIDS) and promotes good health.

An hour-long documentary about urine therapy. This unconventional and controversial practice, which involves the use of one's own urine for health benefits, has been employed throughout history by people around world and is one of the oldest modalities of health care.The proponents of urine therapy generally advocate the use of one's own urine for many purposes. Whether taken orally, dropped in the eyes, ears, used topically or injected, it is claimed that urine is a cure for many maladies including AIDS, cancer, asthma, arthritis, and glaucoma, among others. Urine therapy is also usedfor skin care, health maintenance, and as a dietary supplement.Many in mainstream medicine have rejected the claims of urine drinkers, pharmaceutical companies and scientists profit from the use of urine and its individual componentsin their research and development. The proteins, enzymes, and other materials occuring naturally in urine are being used invarious ways, including the production of life saving drugs anddietary supplements as well as for non-invasive tests for thedetection of disease.
Credits

Director
Cevin Soling
Production
Cevin Soling for Spectacle FIlms, Inc.
Contact

World Sales
Cevin Soling for Spectacle FIlms, Inc.

https://www.idfa.nl/en/film/1c002491-1e9f-4153-9fdb-4f046c0b5f8b/urine-good-health/docs-for-sale

It’s scary that their supporters see these nutjob grifters as advocates for women, advocates for health care, or even as decent human beings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.patreon.com/LucienGreaves

Here’s the link, to his patreon. Ugh.

Thanks for the links, pp.

Yes, ugh. Greaves/Mesicko/Messner is exploiting an incredibly serious women’s health issue, and diverting money from legitimate women’s groups, for a publicity stunt and membership drive to raise money to support his personal lifestyle, part of which apparently includes white nationalism and eugenics. And on the side he’s coercing terrified New Mexican teens to convert to atheism.

Can’t tell if you’re joking or actually believe this crap.

OK, pls explain, without insults or dumb emoticons or derailments into other religions or reposting dumb cartoons,

1. The post above showing Geaves to be a white nationalist who sports eugenics and ridicules Jews.
2. The court case against Greaves for misappropriating funds given for abortion rights to support his personal lifestyle and that of his cofounder
3. Why it’s ok to force scared teens to renounce their faith as a condition of receiving the pills
4. Why none of this garbage is diverting funding from legitimate, non-coercive women’s health groups.

Otherwise you’re just a troll. Let’s have some answers, finally, or sit the eff down.

You’re confusing posters. And still missing the point.

This religious group shouldn’t be involved in women’s health. ZERO religion groups should be involved in women’s health. Wouldn’t you agree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

He’s forcing them to give up ALL religion in their lives, not just medical care. Why is this so hard to understand?

So forcing your religious beliefs on others is bad?

Religion in medical care is bad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

A University of Chicago study concluded that a whopping 76% of doctors stated that they believe in God, compared with only 39% of scientists, and about 70% of Americans overall.

Thousands of religiously affiliated hospitals throughout the world.

Medicine, healing, religion, and spirituality have existed hand in hand since time immortal.

Yet the Satanic Temple (who admit to living off the money they raise on the backs of women) are your heroes?

Perhaps just drink a bracing cup of your own urine, donate $6.66 to Lucien/Doug, and try to understand religion is involved in medical care and always will be.

There are a handful of state mandated atheist countries you can flee to to escape the horror of religion in medical care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

I wil take the Satanic Temple over MAGA idiots anytime. Over Catholicism anytime over Orthodox Jewish anytime.Or Youngkin, Or DeSantis, Or any Republican Christ Fascist.

See where I am going with this. The Satanic Temple isn't trying to kill or grift off of hard working Americans. Unlike the above. Nor are they standing with Russia over Ukraine.

So yeah their "religion" is just fine.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

A University of Chicago study concluded that a whopping 76% of doctors stated that they believe in God, compared with only 39% of scientists, and about 70% of Americans overall.

Thousands of religiously affiliated hospitals throughout the world.

Medicine, healing, religion, and spirituality have existed hand in hand since time immortal.

Yet the Satanic Temple (who admit to living off the money they raise on the backs of women) are your heroes?

Perhaps just drink a bracing cup of your own urine, donate $6.66 to Lucien/Doug, and try to understand religion is involved in medical care and always will be.

There are a handful of state mandated atheist countries you can flee to to escape the horror of religion in medical care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

A University of Chicago study concluded that a whopping 76% of doctors stated that they believe in God, compared with only 39% of scientists, and about 70% of Americans overall.

Thousands of religiously affiliated hospitals throughout the world.

Medicine, healing, religion, and spirituality have existed hand in hand since time immortal.

Yet the Satanic Temple (who admit to living off the money they raise on the backs of women) are your heroes?

Perhaps just drink a bracing cup of your own urine, donate $6.66 to Lucien/Doug, and try to understand religion is involved in medical care and always will be.

There are a handful of state mandated atheist countries you can flee to to escape the horror of religion in medical care.

Like drinking blood?

They aren’t “heroes”, just another corrupt religion who doesn’t belong in my medical care.

[Anonymous]

The UK has a state religion but that has nothing to do with its healthcare system. PP is just bizarre to claim religion and healthcare are inextricable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

A University of Chicago study concluded that a whopping 76% of doctors stated that they believe in God, compared with only 39% of scientists, and about 70% of Americans overall.

Thousands of religiously affiliated hospitals throughout the world.

Medicine, healing, religion, and spirituality have existed hand in hand since time immortal.

Yet the Satanic Temple (who admit to living off the money they raise on the backs of women) are your heroes?

Perhaps just drink a bracing cup of your own urine, donate $6.66 to Lucien/Doug, and try to understand religion is involved in medical care and always will be.

There are a handful of state mandated atheist countries you can flee to to escape the horror of religion in medical care.

Like drinking blood?

They aren’t “heroes”, just another corrupt religion who doesn’t belong in my medical care.

You should only use atheist doctors who practice in atheist hospitals. Then you can be sure no religion is involved in your medical care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The UK has a state religion but that has nothing to do with its healthcare system. PP is just bizarre to claim religion and healthcare are inextricable

What does the UK and the NHS have to do with the lying grifters and their fraudulent organization that is used to pay their rents/advocate for women’s reproductive rights?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people are completely missing the point. Nobody here is running out to join the ST.

The entire point is that we don’t want god - or the devil - in our doctor’s office. Or government. Or school.

Right wing religious nuts can’t help but to take these things literally. They don’t understand satire.

DP. You’re completely missing the point. And all your insults don’t hide the fact that you’re obtuse, whether unintentionally or deliberately.

We want pro-choice money to go to the other women’s groups who are well managed, not run by racist eugenics supporters, and don’t force women to join or convert to atheism as part of a fund raising publicity stunt.

Hi, sock puppet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another example of the good work these Satanists do.

https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/national/satanic-temple-displays-goat-headed-statue-arkansas-state-capitol/7pI9a9EsEx0eXSiRQESckN/

Briefly displaying a statue of the Devil, who they don’t believe in, is good works?

That’s ridiculous.

To show the constitutional problem with you showing your statue?

Yes, that is very good works.

DP. You’ve got to be trolling with this garbage.

No.

I get you don't get it. That's why it's good they do it. And your objection illustrates both the problem itself and the irony that escapes those who object.

All along you’ve had zero response to Greaves’/Messner’s/Misicko’s white nationalism. Nor to his use of funds he raised for abortion to support his personal lifestyle. Nor to the problems around forcing terrified women to convert to atheism and look at a devil sculpture. Nor to the issue of diverting funds from legitimate women’s health groups who are already mailing abortion pills to New Mexico without doing any of this other garbage.

All you have is insults. The irony/complicity of your own support for this charlatan clearly escapes you.

Your concern trolling is tiresome. The entire persona is satire.

Bored now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lucien Greaves/ Doug Misicko/Doug Mesner admitted in court to taking money donated for “abortion rights” and using it for rent and personal expenses. He also admitted the the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, Malcolm Jarry, uses the donated money for personal expenses also. But nobody (not the Satanic Temple, not a bookeeper or accountant, keeps track of that money or it’s use.

Malcolm Jarry’s real name is Cevin Soling.

Lucien/Doug says he doesn’t keep track of the amount of funds donated for abortion advocacy he spends on himself, or the amounts Malcolm/ Cevin spends on himself.

Worth keeping in mind: if we were describing Christian televangelists or crisis pregnancy centers this way, these same people defending The Satanic Temple with “nothing to see here” would not be nearly so charitable waving off the red flags of a church-business-nonprofit.

+1. And the only defense of Greaves’/Misicko’s/Mesner’s racism, anti-Semitism, support for eugenics, and misappropriation of funds donated for abortion rights, is to repost that childish cartoon and claim forcing people to join an atheist group and perform its rituals is different, because, atheism.

The entire point is that religion has no place in medical care.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

A University of Chicago study concluded that a whopping 76% of doctors stated that they believe in God, compared with only 39% of scientists, and about 70% of Americans overall.

Thousands of religiously affiliated hospitals throughout the world.

Medicine, healing, religion, and spirituality have existed hand in hand since time immortal.

Yet the Satanic Temple (who admit to living off the money they raise on the backs of women) are your heroes?

Perhaps just drink a bracing cup of your own urine, donate $6.66 to Lucien/Doug, and try to understand religion is involved in medical care and always will be.

There are a handful of state mandated atheist countries you can flee to to escape the horror of religion in medical care.

Like drinking blood?

They aren’t “heroes”, just another corrupt religion who doesn’t belong in my medical care.

The Lord’s Supper/Christian Communion is a remembrance of what Christ did for us and a celebration of what we receive as a result of His sacrifice.

Grifters who lie and sell “documentaries” to people that claim drinking your own pee cures cancer is what you support and defend.