Having an overweight teenage daughter is so hard

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Anonymous wrote:OP why the hell can’t your sons just eat more whole healthy foods? I find it really messed up that you won’t even consider getting rid of the calorie dense junk. They can just eat more potatoes at dinner. They don’t need the crap either.

Clearly you don't have teen boys. Come back and comment again when you do.

For real. Athletic teen boys easily eat 5000 calories per day.

That's not easy to do on hard boiled eggs and cucumbers (or whatever healthy snack you are imagining).

How about avocado toast, banana peanut butter smoothies, egg salad sandwiches, chicken legs, chicken Cesar salad wraps. High calorie, and actually has nutrients.

There's no reason these boys need coke and chips. Sorry. If you think they're fueling properly you're wrong. Teenage daughter less likely to overeat avocado toast.

All those things are too fattening to have around a teen who needs to lose weight. Avocado toast is not nutritious. Peanut butter is too fattening. Caesar dressing is way too fattening. Egg salad has way too much Mayo.

Nobody is feeding their sons Coke and chips if they’re an athlete

I hate that word "fattening." Plenty of skinny people eat peanut butter and avocado toast.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you PPs are insane. Obesity is a problem. I have three cousins who died young due to obesity related diseases. I was overweight as a child and I HATED it. Every minute of it. I wish my parents would’ve helped me with exercise and eating habits, but they were obese, too.

OP, you are right to worry. Obesity is terrible and yet totally preventable. I wish you luck

If it's so preventable why are 40% of Americans obese?

Poor choices. Obesity is not rocket science. We sit around all day and eat bad food with high calories and low nutrition

No one treating an obese population thinks this. Your comment is a prime example of Dunning-Kruger.

this is just not true. Not true at all.
Obesity is not some mysterious disease. It's a pretty clear cause and effect. are some people more prone? Yes. But we know what the base issues are and how to get out of it.
People like you making excuses for obesity and trying to frame it as some random disease like lupus are fooling yourselves. And, frankly, you're a danger to society. You're why we have so many obese people. It is not ok to be obese.

Again, no one in the field says this. Only ignorant people outside of it.

Let me guess. You're in the field and read that in Vogue somewhere, right?
Almost everyone that I know in medicine says otherwise, and they live with me. So nice try.

Do they always opine outside their specialties?

HA! Because the anonymous rantings of a DCUM lunatic is so much more reliable. Get off WebMD and feed your kids something healthy. And while you're at it, go for a walk.

Since we are on an anonymous forum I’ll tell you what I really think about all those “people in medicine” living in your house. In my 20 year career in healthcare, I’ve discovered most practitioners are quite dumb. Incompetent at critical thinking. Really only skilled at memorizing, which was once incredibly helpful and is now mostly replaced by technology. There are very few true experts moving the ball forward in any area of practice but many self-aggrandizing frontline practitioners who couldn’t tell a well-designed study from a WebMD article. They are completely unable to grasp basic details of the validity of research like population size, confounding factors, P-hacking, etc. My only solace as a patient is that I can circumvent them when I need to with my privilege and ability to pay out of pocket. But I feel terrible for everyone else out there, seeing these hacks and getting truly horrible care and advice.

Hopefully OP can find someone actually competent. But it will be hard.

Let me guess, you're in medical sales. Or worse, admin. Not an actual physician or researcher yourself but damn do you know a lot about it.
Like I said, go for a walk.

Pharma executive actually. Thank God we in pharma actually cure disease and save lives because your PA husband and CNA daughter sure aren’t.

I cannot believe you tried to paint Pharma as the good guys. How much price fixing you do today? Increase any medicines by 1000%? Sleep well at night? No wonder you're touting your "privilege and ability to pay out of pocket". Self-awareness is dead.

I sleep like a baby.

Stupid phrase. Most babies are up screaming their heads off a couple times a night.

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Anonymous wrote:OP why the hell can’t your sons just eat more whole healthy foods? I find it really messed up that you won’t even consider getting rid of the calorie dense junk. They can just eat more potatoes at dinner. They don’t need the crap either.

Clearly you don't have teen boys. Come back and comment again when you do.

For real. Athletic teen boys easily eat 5000 calories per day.

That's not easy to do on hard boiled eggs and cucumbers (or whatever healthy snack you are imagining).

How about avocado toast, banana peanut butter smoothies, egg salad sandwiches, chicken legs, chicken Cesar salad wraps. High calorie, and actually has nutrients.

There's no reason these boys need coke and chips. Sorry. If you think they're fueling properly you're wrong. Teenage daughter less likely to overeat avocado toast.

All those things are too fattening to have around a teen who needs to lose weight. Avocado toast is not nutritious. Peanut butter is too fattening. Caesar dressing is way too fattening. Egg salad has way too much Mayo.

Nobody is feeding their sons Coke and chips if they’re an athlete

I hate that word "fattening." Plenty of skinny people eat peanut butter and avocado toast.

We’re not talking about a skinny person are we. Obviously the skinny male athletes can eat as much peanut butter as they want.

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Anonymous wrote:OP why the hell can’t your sons just eat more whole healthy foods? I find it really messed up that you won’t even consider getting rid of the calorie dense junk. They can just eat more potatoes at dinner. They don’t need the crap either.

Clearly you don't have teen boys. Come back and comment again when you do.

For real. Athletic teen boys easily eat 5000 calories per day.

That's not easy to do on hard boiled eggs and cucumbers (or whatever healthy snack you are imagining).

How about avocado toast, banana peanut butter smoothies, egg salad sandwiches, chicken legs, chicken Cesar salad wraps. High calorie, and actually has nutrients.

There's no reason these boys need coke and chips. Sorry. If you think they're fueling properly you're wrong. Teenage daughter less likely to overeat avocado toast.

All those things are too fattening to have around a teen who needs to lose weight. Avocado toast is not nutritious. Peanut butter is too fattening. Caesar dressing is way too fattening. Egg salad has way too much Mayo.

Nobody is feeding their sons Coke and chips if they’re an athlete

I hate that word "fattening." Plenty of skinny people eat peanut butter and avocado toast.

We’re not talking about a skinny person are we. Obviously the skinny male athletes can eat as much peanut butter as they want.

{sigh} There is a big difference in the nutrient content and satiety level of healthy but calories dense foods such as peanut butter and avocado versus junk food like Cheetos and salt and vinegar chips. Op did come back to say she doesn't have any junk in the house (however did say in her op that she has to have snacks around for her athlete kids, so maybe she backpedaled, maybe she didn't).

If op's daughter goes low fat and low carb and deprives herself she will be hungry all the time, hangry, and possibly malnourished depending on her choices. If she can eat a balanced diet with (gasp) healthy fats and protein and (double gasp) complex carbohydrates, then she will be fueling her body with healthy foods, providing her cells with the nutrients they need, providing her brain with the fat that it needs as she is still growing and developing! She's not a 45 year old pre menopausal woman who has to eat celery and laughing cow cheese.

Op--I think your dd will be fine if she gets the unconditional love from you, you cook healthy well-balanced meals, and you don't deprive her for fear that she doesn't look like she's healthy. I would insist that she moves her body with intention multiple times a week-not for weight, but for mental and physical health.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.
Would you guys be fine with a kid who is overweight?
You're saying it wouldn't both you at all?

You wouldn't worry about the health implications?

You're not wrong.
The APA is now targeting overweight kids for treatment pretty aggressively. This is the kind of problem that turns into obesity, and that is a problem.

APA = American Psychological Association?

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Anonymous wrote:OP why the hell can’t your sons just eat more whole healthy foods? I find it really messed up that you won’t even consider getting rid of the calorie dense junk. They can just eat more potatoes at dinner. They don’t need the crap either.

Clearly you don't have teen boys. Come back and comment again when you do.

For real. Athletic teen boys easily eat 5000 calories per day.

That's not easy to do on hard boiled eggs and cucumbers (or whatever healthy snack you are imagining).

How about avocado toast, banana peanut butter smoothies, egg salad sandwiches, chicken legs, chicken Cesar salad wraps. High calorie, and actually has nutrients.

There's no reason these boys need coke and chips. Sorry. If you think they're fueling properly you're wrong. Teenage daughter less likely to overeat avocado toast.

All those things are too fattening to have around a teen who needs to lose weight. Avocado toast is not nutritious. Peanut butter is too fattening. Caesar dressing is way too fattening. Egg salad has way too much Mayo.

Nobody is feeding their sons Coke and chips if they’re an athlete

My God such horrible advice.

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Anonymous wrote:OP why the hell can’t your sons just eat more whole healthy foods? I find it really messed up that you won’t even consider getting rid of the calorie dense junk. They can just eat more potatoes at dinner. They don’t need the crap either.

Clearly you don't have teen boys. Come back and comment again when you do.

For real. Athletic teen boys easily eat 5000 calories per day.

That's not easy to do on hard boiled eggs and cucumbers (or whatever healthy snack you are imagining).

How about avocado toast, banana peanut butter smoothies, egg salad sandwiches, chicken legs, chicken Cesar salad wraps. High calorie, and actually has nutrients.

There's no reason these boys need coke and chips. Sorry. If you think they're fueling properly you're wrong. Teenage daughter less likely to overeat avocado toast.

All those things are too fattening to have around a teen who needs to lose weight. Avocado toast is not nutritious. Peanut butter is too fattening. Caesar dressing is way too fattening. Egg salad has way too much Mayo.

Nobody is feeding their sons Coke and chips if they’re an athlete

I hate that word "fattening." Plenty of skinny people eat peanut butter and avocado toast.

We’re not talking about a skinny person are we. Obviously the skinny male athletes can eat as much peanut butter as they want.

{sigh} There is a big difference in the nutrient content and satiety level of healthy but calories dense foods such as peanut butter and avocado versus junk food like Cheetos and salt and vinegar chips. Op did come back to say she doesn't have any junk in the house (however did say in her op that she has to have snacks around for her athlete kids, so maybe she backpedaled, maybe she didn't).

If op's daughter goes low fat and low carb and deprives herself she will be hungry all the time, hangry, and possibly malnourished depending on her choices. If she can eat a balanced diet with (gasp) healthy fats and protein and (double gasp) complex carbohydrates, then she will be fueling her body with healthy foods, providing her cells with the nutrients they need, providing her brain with the fat that it needs as she is still growing and developing! She's not a 45 year old pre menopausal woman who has to eat celery and laughing cow cheese.

Op--I think your dd will be fine if she gets the unconditional love from you, you cook healthy well-balanced meals, and you don't deprive her for fear that she doesn't look like she's healthy. I would insist that she moves her body with intention multiple times a week-not for weight, but for mental and physical health.

There are many diets between low carb/low fat and cherries with Mountain Dew.

I know it’s hard for “healthy skinny” people to admit that a 5’2” person can eat a healthy diet but still gain weight because they need to believe they are skinny because they are so amazing at being healthy.

The reality is a 16 yo girl has a sh!t ton more new hormones and body changes than a menopausal woman. To go from travel sport to no sports is a shock to the body, happens to injured athletes all.the.time.

Avocados and peanut butter are not healthy choices for everyone.

There are tons of things that contribute to weight gain like Cortisol (stress), the pill, depression, lack of sleep, mood swing.

I’d check those things before I’d go OMG! Diet!

Everybody needs to exercise, has nothing to do with weight.

It’s required just like homework.

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Anonymous wrote:OP why the hell can’t your sons just eat more whole healthy foods? I find it really messed up that you won’t even consider getting rid of the calorie dense junk. They can just eat more potatoes at dinner. They don’t need the crap either.

Clearly you don't have teen boys. Come back and comment again when you do.

For real. Athletic teen boys easily eat 5000 calories per day.

That's not easy to do on hard boiled eggs and cucumbers (or whatever healthy snack you are imagining).

How about avocado toast, banana peanut butter smoothies, egg salad sandwiches, chicken legs, chicken Cesar salad wraps. High calorie, and actually has nutrients.

There's no reason these boys need coke and chips. Sorry. If you think they're fueling properly you're wrong. Teenage daughter less likely to overeat avocado toast.

All those things are too fattening to have around a teen who needs to lose weight. Avocado toast is not nutritious. Peanut butter is too fattening. Caesar dressing is way too fattening. Egg salad has way too much Mayo.

Nobody is feeding their sons Coke and chips if they’re an athlete

My God such horrible advice.

Lol skinny people are like wait what people gain weight eating avocados and peanut butter. I’ve told myself it’s chips/coke/cake to make myself feel good about myself.

Mind blown

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.
Would you guys be fine with a kid who is overweight?
You're saying it wouldn't both you at all?

You wouldn't worry about the health implications?

Well, not the way you are worrying about it, no.

I disagree. I would be very worried. OP, I am sorry you are dealing with this. I have a kid who tends to gain weight easily so I know what you are going through.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry about it for health reasons, and because pretty, skinny people have it easier in life, but not because I have to keep buying pants.

Then why did you bring it up and put SKIN TIGHT in all caps?

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Anonymous wrote:OP why the hell can’t your sons just eat more whole healthy foods? I find it really messed up that you won’t even consider getting rid of the calorie dense junk. They can just eat more potatoes at dinner. They don’t need the crap either.

Clearly you don't have teen boys. Come back and comment again when you do.

For real. Athletic teen boys easily eat 5000 calories per day.

That's not easy to do on hard boiled eggs and cucumbers (or whatever healthy snack you are imagining).

So what do they eat?

Protein shakes
Full fat yogurt bowls
Pasta with butter and meat sauce
Chicken, like 1/2 a chicken
Potatoes, loaded
Caesar salad, or a chef salad with ranch
Jambalaya sausage
Steak
Egg sandwich with bacon and cheese
Apples with peanut butter
Grilled cheese sandwiches or quesadillas
Bagels with cream cheese
Burritos with rice/cheese/meat/beans

these are meals not snacks

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Anonymous wrote:Your athlete boys can snack on hard boiled eggs and yogurt and cashews instead of addictive potato chips and ice cream.

You can take her on hikes on the weekends and bike with her when the weather gets warmer.

I have a tween boy who is chubby. So I get your worry. We know how hard it is to start out overweight. All you can do is give her unconditional love and support, but also provide the tools at home for being healthy (such as fun physical activity, healthy foods)

This. You don’t need crap and sweets in the house because you have teenaged boys.

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Anonymous wrote:I get your concern OP. I would stop buying her bigger pants. That is consequence of overeating.

Send her to school in clothes too small and see what happens to you, you fool.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: Consider having your daughter apply for an amount of life insurance that requires a physical. Once she is denied/rejected for coverage or only offered coverage at an extremely premium (rating), she may understand the need to seek medical help.

OP: You are 100% right to be concerned. This is both a mental health issue and an issue of physical health. Having a heart attack at a young age is unnecessary & preventable.

what the actual f*** is wrong with you

Yeah, these garbage parents are far worse than the poor overweight daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: Consider having your daughter apply for an amount of life insurance that requires a physical. Once she is denied/rejected for coverage or only offered coverage at an extremely premium (rating), she may understand the need to seek medical help.

OP: You are 100% right to be concerned. This is both a mental health issue and an issue of physical health. Having a heart attack at a young age is unnecessary & preventable.

what the actual f*** is wrong with you

Right back at you. You do not care about another person's health and well being. Fine. Not your problem.

You think forcing your child to undergo a physical so that an insurance company will deny them and you can use that as ammo to shame them into trying to lose weight is good for their well-being?

Yes. Whatever it takes in order for the individual to avoid the unnecessary adverse health effects that are certain to follow. And if you don't think that obese people suffer psychologically, then you should do a bit of research.

Some of us--like the OP-care about the physical health and mental well being of a teenager who is obese unnecessarily.

You’re a lunatic and should not be allowed to parent minor children.