I think you watch too many movies and don’t really understand what its like. |
No. They can’t. The training is to enter the building in triangle formation which requires 3 police. But the SRO doesn’t want to end up like the Parkland cop so they will go in alone and they will die. |
The kids at Parkland and Uvalde had automatic weapons I think specifically an AR-15. |
Lol they think they can hit a moving target while taking fire with kids in the background and not hit those kids. People are wildly uninformed. |
On the contrary: https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf (Contains ACTUAL statistics that demonstrate the effect of MCPD SROs within the district.) Since MoCo didn’t bother to ask the community whether SROs should stay, the best we can go with is what PGCPS found out when they asked that question: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/pgcps/Board.nsf/files/BX4VD4802E1E/%24file/CEO%27s%20Rec%20School%20Safety%20and%20Security%20Report%2001142021.pdf 80% support SROs at the high school level. 70% support SROs in middle school. 92% who have actually interacted with an SRO report the interaction as “positive.” 70% report that SROs build positive relationships. The hard facts show that SROs do make a positive impact in this region and that (in places where community was actually asked) the majority supports the program. |
People seem horribly uninformed about how ineffective they are and how much more dangerous they make things. They had SROs that both parkland and uvalde and it did not help. |
When a person presents relevant data, they are “informed.” When a person states generalities that are not cited, they could be considered “uninformed.” You mention Parkland and Uvalde, neither of which are in Montgomery County. The data above (did you read it?) shows clear proof that SROs have been beneficial in Montgomery County. You provided two examples from different states. Are they tragic? Absolutely. Do they prove that SROs are ineffective nationwide? Not at all. |
You have not presented data. How many kids were falsely arrested by cops because of SRO’s in Montgomery County? |
Let's think beyond just shootings too. Wouldn't having an SRO be a deterrent to doing drugs / robbing people in the bathrooms? |
Of course they would. |
And, the rapes. |
You state two bad situations but there are tons more where SRO's were effective. So, what is your solution to directly impact our MCPS schools? Clearly the do nothing approach isn't working. |
I did. Clearly you didn’t bother to click the link, which has tons of relevant statistics, explanations about arrests, etc. You apparently want me to make up some data about falsely arrested students. Perhaps… just perhaps… the data doesn’t exist for Montgomery County because it doesn’t happen? There also aren’t that many arrests in the first place. There were 27 during the last year with SROs. 27 in a system with 160,000 students. That’s… not a lot. That’s also because they are able to proactively keep kids from getting physically arrested through interventions. This is all in the report, if you care to read it. |
This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for. |
PP you are responding to. The question was whether there is data showing they are "necessary" in MCPS. 1. PG Survey: This is a survey of sentiment, so not evidence of necessity. It was also conducted outside of MC over the holidays from 12/21-1/8, the response rate is less than 2% of the population, and nearly half of the respondents were teachers who very understandably want to have as many more adults in the school as they can get, regardless of their role. 2. MC Police-Produced Document: Can you show me where in this document it proves the positive impact? The first 7 pages detail the training requirements. Page 8 describes generally how the SRO is present int he school community. The final pages state that there were 27 physical arrests, 242 citations in one school year. How does this support SRO's being a "necessary" thing and effective at preventing and deterring violent and non-violent crime? And since we are throwing around documents from biased sources, there is this letter that states: "In MCPS during the 2018-19 school year, Black students received 45% of school-based arrests in MCPS despite representing 22% of the student population, even though data demonstrates that Black students misbehave at the same rates as their peers. Special needs students with Individualized Education Programs (IEPs) received 25% of arrests in MCPS despite representing 12.2% of the student population. https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/Resources/Files/agenda/col/2021/20210204/testimony/testimony47-MeganBerger.pdf There is also this presentation that states: "There is no evidence, in Maryland or elsewhere, that police presence reduces school violence. There is no empirical evidence that police presence will prevent mass shootings from occurring. One study found that an increase in police presence did not decrease any category of school-based offenses. Students’ perception that police treat them unfairly can have a counterproductive effect on student behavior. School police have made Black students feel less safe because of over-policing and racialized police violence." https://www.princegeorgescountymd.gov/DocumentCenter/View/32840/Coalition-Reform-School-Discipline-SRO-Presentation |