The Kennedy Center is ridiculous for still requiring masks

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Anonymous wrote:The arguments of the people claiming there’s NO way theater can go on without masks ring hollow when actual Broadway theaters don’t require them.


So go to NY. The Kennedy Center doesn't need your patronage.

There are stupid rules all over the place. No beers after the 7th inning stretch at a baseball game? As if that substantially helps anyone or anything.


Yes, I agree the rule is stupid. And the people acting as though it’s the only way to be safe apparently think NYC is being unsafe.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


But whole shows should be routinely shutting down due to massive cast infections, according to posters on here.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


But whole shows should be routinely shutting down due to massive cast infections, according to posters on here.


Right. For people claiming to be following the science and the data, I’m waiting for all the data that supports their arguments.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


But whole shows should be routinely shutting down due to massive cast infections, according to posters on here.


Right. For people claiming to be following the science and the data, I’m waiting for all the data that supports their arguments.




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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


My response is neither you, me, or anyone else can say anything definitively. The KC is choosing to be cautious to a level that you don't like. Too bad for you.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


My response is neither you, me, or anyone else can say anything definitively. The KC is choosing to be cautious to a level that you don't like. Too bad for you.


Nah, see that’s not it. You and other posters are acting as though the need for masks is objectively the only way to avoid mass cast outbreaks that will shut down shows.

I’m just asking for evidence of that.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


My response is neither you, me, or anyone else can say anything definitively. The KC is choosing to be cautious to a level that you don't like. Too bad for you.


Nah, see that’s not it. You and other posters are acting as though the need for masks is objectively the only way to avoid mass cast outbreaks that will shut down shows.

I’m just asking for evidence of that.


How do you know that?
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.


Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.
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Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.


Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.


Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.


Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.



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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.


Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.


Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.


So you have no data to prove that this is the case, even given vaccinations and COVID likely being endemic at this point. Got it.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.


Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.


Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.


You better get on the phone with all the Broadway theaters and explain this to them, since they’re not on board with you.
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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.


In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.


Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.



Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.


Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.



But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.


So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.


Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.


So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?


Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.


That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?


You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.


Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.


Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.


So you have no data to prove that this is the case, even given vaccinations and COVID likely being endemic at this point. Got it.


Not only does she not have any proof her argument, we have definitive proof against her argument, as Broadway casts are and have been doing just fine. Even without their audiences "protecting" them with masks.
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