Moderates- Eleich or Blair

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.

Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).

That is my post above. I am voting the following for BOE:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll

Moderately Moco here.

These people all seem like they are good people who care about the system but I think each would be the most likely to close schools (aka go virtual) for any reason in the next years among their competitors and to me that is a major issue.

I don't agree with the slate on some of their personal takes, but they won't close schools and I hope that their focus would be on improving MCPS not on other things.

I'm also aware of the mud slinging that goes on during elections here and know there will always be pushes against anyone from outside the machine trying to run.

Thanks for your explanation. It is helpful.

I'm voting to get SROs back in the schools (and CEO 2.0 did not do that) -- public safety matters most to me -- although I don't want schools shut down either. Kids don't learn when they fear violence each day. And kids 12-18, particiular AA boys, are less safe in school than in the community at large.

But are students, particularly AA boys actually more safe when SROs are present in the schools? That has often not been the case, although it’s quite possible that the Montgomery County SROs would do a better job than many have in other school systems and communities.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/07/us/school-officers-impact-on-black-students/index.html

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/03/high-schoolers-organize-montgomery-co-vigil-to-keep-police-out-of-schools/

Yes, when you look at a metaanalysis of SRO studies, they improve safety but increase arrests. When you apply national data to a local system, it is informative but not necessarily determinative. Montgomery County has one of the lowest student arrest rates in the state and by far one of the lowest in the nation. We are a smart enough community to take advantage of the good while minimizing the bad. The absense of police in schools this year did not do anything to reduce racial disparities in arrests or juvenile referrals. That's because there are many more factors that influence those disaparities than just police. But we do know there were more calls to schools for violence. And we had our first shooting at a school. A 15 year old Black boy suffered a horrific gun shot to the pelvis, has suffered through 13 surgeries, been on life support for three weeks, and has a colostomy bag. Ghost guns are a game changer and they aren't going away any time soon. Their presence will only get worse.

Put the SROs back in. Ensure that the guardrails provided by the MOU are solid, minimizing inappropriate police intervention in situations that are better handled by schools. Make sure you have an oversight mechanism in place to hold all stakeholders accountable to that MOU -- teachers, principals, and police alike.

Please watch this synopsis of a recent SRO forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q_FX_wj9ZQ

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.

Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).

That is my post above. I am voting the following for BOE:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll

Moderately Moco here.

These people all seem like they are good people who care about the system but I think each would be the most likely to close schools (aka go virtual) for any reason in the next years among their competitors and to me that is a major issue.

I don't agree with the slate on some of their personal takes, but they won't close schools and I hope that their focus would be on improving MCPS not on other things.

I'm also aware of the mud slinging that goes on during elections here and know there will always be pushes against anyone from outside the machine trying to run.

Thanks for your explanation. It is helpful.

I'm voting to get SROs back in the schools (and CEO 2.0 did not do that) -- public safety matters most to me -- although I don't want schools shut down either. Kids don't learn when they fear violence each day. And kids 12-18, particiular AA boys, are less safe in school than in the community at large.

But are students, particularly AA boys actually more safe when SROs are present in the schools? That has often not been the case, although it’s quite possible that the Montgomery County SROs would do a better job than many have in other school systems and communities.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/07/us/school-officers-impact-on-black-students/index.html

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/03/high-schoolers-organize-montgomery-co-vigil-to-keep-police-out-of-schools/

Montgomery County Police published SRO data:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

This report is from 2019-2020, before members of the county council decided to end the program. MCPD and MCPS had a strong program with well-trained and respected SROs. Part of the problem, as I see it, is that the council looked nation-wide instead of looking locally. The link above contains more details about the SROs’ role within a MCPS school, their training, and their arrest data. I wonder how the decision would have been different if the council did more research into data and experiences specific to Montgomery County. Why wasn’t there a system-wide survey, for example?

Riemer’s role in the lopsided SRO debate is why I can’t support his candidacy.

Thank you! I appreciate the link and the Montgomery County-specific information. PP

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.

Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).

That is my post above. I am voting the following for BOE:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll

Moderately Moco here.

These people all seem like they are good people who care about the system but I think each would be the most likely to close schools (aka go virtual) for any reason in the next years among their competitors and to me that is a major issue.

I don't agree with the slate on some of their personal takes, but they won't close schools and I hope that their focus would be on improving MCPS not on other things.

I'm also aware of the mud slinging that goes on during elections here and know there will always be pushes against anyone from outside the machine trying to run.

Thanks for your explanation. It is helpful.

I'm voting to get SROs back in the schools (and CEO 2.0 did not do that) -- public safety matters most to me -- although I don't want schools shut down either. Kids don't learn when they fear violence each day. And kids 12-18, particiular AA boys, are less safe in school than in the community at large.

But are students, particularly AA boys actually more safe when SROs are present in the schools? That has often not been the case, although it’s quite possible that the Montgomery County SROs would do a better job than many have in other school systems and communities.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/07/us/school-officers-impact-on-black-students/index.html

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/03/high-schoolers-organize-montgomery-co-vigil-to-keep-police-out-of-schools/

Yes, when you look at a metaanalysis of SRO studies, they improve safety but increase arrests. When you apply national data to a local system, it is informative but not necessarily determinative. Montgomery County has one of the lowest student arrest rates in the state and by far one of the lowest in the nation. We are a smart enough community to take advantage of the good while minimizing the bad. The absense of police in schools this year did not do anything to reduce racial disparities in arrests or juvenile referrals. That's because there are many more factors that influence those disaparities than just police. But we do know there were more calls to schools for violence. And we had our first shooting at a school. A 15 year old Black boy suffered a horrific gun shot to the pelvis, has suffered through 13 surgeries, been on life support for three weeks, and has a colostomy bag. Ghost guns are a game changer and they aren't going away any time soon. Their presence will only get worse.

Put the SROs back in. Ensure that the guardrails provided by the MOU are solid, minimizing inappropriate police intervention in situations that are better handled by schools. Make sure you have an oversight mechanism in place to hold all stakeholders accountable to that MOU -- teachers, principals, and police alike.

Thank you for posting this.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.

Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).

That is my post above. I am voting the following for BOE:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll

Moderately Moco here.

These people all seem like they are good people who care about the system but I think each would be the most likely to close schools (aka go virtual) for any reason in the next years among their competitors and to me that is a major issue.

I don't agree with the slate on some of their personal takes, but they won't close schools and I hope that their focus would be on improving MCPS not on other things.

I'm also aware of the mud slinging that goes on during elections here and know there will always be pushes against anyone from outside the machine trying to run.

Thanks for your explanation. It is helpful.

I'm voting to get SROs back in the schools (and CEO 2.0 did not do that) -- public safety matters most to me -- although I don't want schools shut down either. Kids don't learn when they fear violence each day. And kids 12-18, particiular AA boys, are less safe in school than in the community at large.

But are students, particularly AA boys actually more safe when SROs are present in the schools? That has often not been the case, although it’s quite possible that the Montgomery County SROs would do a better job than many have in other school systems and communities.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/07/us/school-officers-impact-on-black-students/index.html

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/03/high-schoolers-organize-montgomery-co-vigil-to-keep-police-out-of-schools/

Yes, when you look at a metaanalysis of SRO studies, they improve safety but increase arrests. When you apply national data to a local system, it is informative but not necessarily determinative. Montgomery County has one of the lowest student arrest rates in the state and by far one of the lowest in the nation. We are a smart enough community to take advantage of the good while minimizing the bad. The absense of police in schools this year did not do anything to reduce racial disparities in arrests or juvenile referrals. That's because there are many more factors that influence those disaparities than just police. But we do know there were more calls to schools for violence. And we had our first shooting at a school. A 15 year old Black boy suffered a horrific gun shot to the pelvis, has suffered through 13 surgeries, been on life support for three weeks, and has a colostomy bag. Ghost guns are a game changer and they aren't going away any time soon. Their presence will only get worse.

Put the SROs back in. Ensure that the guardrails provided by the MOU are solid, minimizing inappropriate police intervention in situations that are better handled by schools. Make sure you have an oversight mechanism in place to hold all stakeholders accountable to that MOU -- teachers, principals, and police alike.

Please watch this synopsis of a recent SRO forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q_FX_wj9ZQ

This was very good to see. The officers seem carefully chosen and trained for their roles — which is not my personal, limited, experience with the SROs in other systems.

As an aside, it was a treat to see Mr Durso — who was my favorite administrator many years ago, when I was a student at Wilson.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.

Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).

That is my post above. I am voting the following for BOE:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll

Moderately Moco here.

These people all seem like they are good people who care about the system but I think each would be the most likely to close schools (aka go virtual) for any reason in the next years among their competitors and to me that is a major issue.

I don't agree with the slate on some of their personal takes, but they won't close schools and I hope that their focus would be on improving MCPS not on other things.

I'm also aware of the mud slinging that goes on during elections here and know there will always be pushes against anyone from outside the machine trying to run.

Thanks for your explanation. It is helpful.

I'm voting to get SROs back in the schools (and CEO 2.0 did not do that) -- public safety matters most to me -- although I don't want schools shut down either. Kids don't learn when they fear violence each day. And kids 12-18, particiular AA boys, are less safe in school than in the community at large.

SRO's are already back in schools? That's settled.

We don't even have an SRO program anymore. It's a CEO program and different

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.

Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).

That is my post above. I am voting the following for BOE:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll

Moderately Moco here.

These people all seem like they are good people who care about the system but I think each would be the most likely to close schools (aka go virtual) for any reason in the next years among their competitors and to me that is a major issue.

I don't agree with the slate on some of their personal takes, but they won't close schools and I hope that their focus would be on improving MCPS not on other things.

I'm also aware of the mud slinging that goes on during elections here and know there will always be pushes against anyone from outside the machine trying to run.

Thanks for your explanation. It is helpful.

I'm voting to get SROs back in the schools (and CEO 2.0 did not do that) -- public safety matters most to me -- although I don't want schools shut down either. Kids don't learn when they fear violence each day. And kids 12-18, particiular AA boys, are less safe in school than in the community at large.

The Moderately Moco endorsed candidates are good about getting SROs back in schools too

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

A bit? Those are the three I would absolutely not vote for - nut jobs every one of them! And yes, I want to get rid of the incumbent BOE members, they are awful.

Can I ask who you are leaning towards? For some of the candidates I am just not finding a lot of information, plus I feel like one of the problems with this current board is unwillingness to push back at MCPS and ask tough questions. It’s hard to gauge who will do that! I like Valerie Coll (former teacher at our neighborhood school) but am struggling with some of the other ones (except to say that I am wary of the moderately MoCo endorsers ones too).

That is my post above. I am voting the following for BOE:

At Large - J. Domenica Giandomenico
1 - Grace Rivera-Owen
3 - Julie Yang
5 - Valerie Coll

Moderately Moco here.

These people all seem like they are good people who care about the system but I think each would be the most likely to close schools (aka go virtual) for any reason in the next years among their competitors and to me that is a major issue.

I don't agree with the slate on some of their personal takes, but they won't close schools and I hope that their focus would be on improving MCPS not on other things.

I'm also aware of the mud slinging that goes on during elections here and know there will always be pushes against anyone from outside the machine trying to run.

Thanks for your explanation. It is helpful.

I'm voting to get SROs back in the schools (and CEO 2.0 did not do that) -- public safety matters most to me -- although I don't want schools shut down either. Kids don't learn when they fear violence each day. And kids 12-18, particiular AA boys, are less safe in school than in the community at large.

The Moderately Moco endorsed candidates are good about getting SROs back in schools too

Good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

They are not whack. They are trying to get the people in who agitated for schools to open.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a voting guide for Maryland moderate democrats? I’m looking for both county and state level.

Moderately MoCo did a Q&A and has endorsements. I don't agree with all of them, but it's place to start.

https://moderatelymoco.com/moderately-moco-recommended-ballot-for-2022-primary-and-questionnaire-responses-post/

Yeah the school board recs are a bit wack!

They are not whack. They are trying to get the people in who agitated for schools to open.

A couple of them come across as absolute whack jobs. So they are odd endorsements when there are other candidates.

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Riemer has no chance of winning (and thank goodness) so use your vote for Blair or Elrich.

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Anonymous wrote:Riemer has no chance of winning (and thank goodness) so use your vote for Blair or Elrich.

I don't know how Elrich fits for anyone who's moderate. He's a Democratic Socialist. Which would be fine if he would ever compromise or consider more moderate perspectives. But he doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Riemer has no chance of winning (and thank goodness) so use your vote for Blair or Elrich.

What’s fascinating is how much more Hans Riemer is all about Hans Riemer than what he claims are his values. If he was truly about values and ideas and was truly concerned about the future of this county, the folks in DC gave him a roadmap: dropout, endorse and vigorously campaign for the more viable candidate. He’s currently trailing “undecided” (LOL!) and it’s painfully obvious to everyone that he has no chance of winning. So what’s he doing?