Virginia Tech

[Anonymous]

JFC, UVA boosters are the most insecure people on the planet. They see a positive thread about any other school (but particularly VT) and stomp their feet that no one’s talking about them. Get a life! So jealous and needy.

[Anonymous]

For the graduating class of 2022, 31 percent of Fairfax County residents who applied to UVA were accepted and 52 percent of accepted students enrolled.

For Tech, 45 percent of applicant were accepted and 44 percent of accepted student enrolled.

We all know that the average GPA and SAT scores of entering students at UVA are higher than Tech, so I’m not gonna bother looking them up.

Lower acceptance rate + higher yield + higher GPAs + higher test scores = preferred destination overall.

Can anyone counter my math with anything else that’s equally or more OBJECTIVELY persuasive and not just someone’s opinion? Hint: “my son prefers Tech” doesn’t count.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the graduating class of 2022, 31 percent of Fairfax County residents who applied to UVA were accepted and 52 percent of accepted students enrolled.

For Tech, 45 percent of applicant were accepted and 44 percent of accepted student enrolled.

We all know that the average GPA and SAT scores of entering students at UVA are higher than Tech, so I’m not gonna bother looking them up.

Lower acceptance rate + higher yield + higher GPAs + higher test scores = preferred destination overall.

Can anyone counter my math with anything else that’s equally or more OBJECTIVELY persuasive and not just someone’s opinion? Hint: “my son prefers Tech” doesn’t count.

Please post where this data was retrieved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the graduating class of 2022, 31 percent of Fairfax County residents who applied to UVA were accepted and 52 percent of accepted students enrolled.

For Tech, 45 percent of applicant were accepted and 44 percent of accepted student enrolled.

We all know that the average GPA and SAT scores of entering students at UVA are higher than Tech, so I’m not gonna bother looking them up.

Lower acceptance rate + higher yield + higher GPAs + higher test scores = preferred destination overall.

Can anyone counter my math with anything else that’s equally or more OBJECTIVELY persuasive and not just someone’s opinion? Hint: “my son prefers Tech” doesn’t count.

Please post where this data was retrieved.

Happy to:

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/b8_admissions_locality.asp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the graduating class of 2022, 31 percent of Fairfax County residents who applied to UVA were accepted and 52 percent of accepted students enrolled.

For Tech, 45 percent of applicant were accepted and 44 percent of accepted student enrolled.

We all know that the average GPA and SAT scores of entering students at UVA are higher than Tech, so I’m not gonna bother looking them up.

Lower acceptance rate + higher yield + higher GPAs + higher test scores = preferred destination overall.

Can anyone counter my math with anything else that’s equally or more OBJECTIVELY persuasive and not just someone’s opinion? Hint: “my son prefers Tech” doesn’t count.

Thank you for sharing. This confirms VT and UVA are both top choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

College is about finding what’s best for you and where you fit in. There’s not a better school- there’s the best school for you. My kid disliked UVA so DC did not apply. Got in at VT, W&M, and other out of state privates but absolutely loves VT, so that’s what DC chose. I think OP was asking about what VT is looking for in applications, not where their child should attend. And no one know that but the child.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

How do you know who is very top? How do you know colleges agree with your assessment of who is very top?

DP. Please, let’s not pretend that any competitive college does not consider top students based on grades, test scores and ECs.

Ive had three kids graduate from a large NOVA public high school in the last five years and another from a private school in DC and it’s relatively easy to guess who’s considered a top student, both by the HS and by colleges. For one thing, we’ve got access to Naviance and that is a pretty accurate indication of the grades and test scores of whose getting in where. And if you, as a parent are involved at the HS and your kid’s life, you have a decent sense of who the student leaders are in various activities and who earns what awards at assemblies. And then there is the fact that every quarter the public school posts on a bulletin board by the main entrance who made principal’s list and honor roll by grade and the private school posts the rankings of the top 20% at the end of every semester by its main office. No, I wasn’t obsessed and tracking each student’s successes or grades or college admissions and I’m sure I don’t know who all the top students are but it’s not that difficult to know who most are. And, yes, in my very recent experience with four kids in private and public HS, the majority of top students are picking UVA over Tech if deciding between the two. My kids had/have plenty of very smart friends at Tech but the vast majority who also applied to UVA were either rejected or waitlisted by UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

How do you know who is very top? How do you know colleges agree with your assessment of who is very top?

DP. Please, let’s not pretend that any competitive college does not consider top students based on grades, test scores and ECs.

Ive had three kids graduate from a large NOVA public high school in the last five years and another from a private school in DC and it’s relatively easy to guess who’s considered a top student, both by the HS and by colleges. For one thing, we’ve got access to Naviance and that is a pretty accurate indication of the grades and test scores of whose getting in where. And if you, as a parent are involved at the HS and your kid’s life, you have a decent sense of who the student leaders are in various activities and who earns what awards at assemblies. And then there is the fact that every quarter the public school posts on a bulletin board by the main entrance who made principal’s list and honor roll by grade and the private school posts the rankings of the top 20% at the end of every semester by its main office. No, I wasn’t obsessed and tracking each student’s successes or grades or college admissions and I’m sure I don’t know who all the top students are but it’s not that difficult to know who most are. And, yes, in my very recent experience with four kids in private and public HS, the majority of top students are picking UVA over Tech if deciding between the two. My kids had/have plenty of very smart friends at Tech but the vast majority who also applied to UVA were either rejected or waitlisted by UVA.

Of course this is what colleges consider. The point is no matter how many anecdotes parents observe, they have not reviewed the applications. The key word here is "guess."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

How do you know who is very top? How do you know colleges agree with your assessment of who is very top?

DP. Please, let’s not pretend that any competitive college does not consider top students based on grades, test scores and ECs.

Ive had three kids graduate from a large NOVA public high school in the last five years and another from a private school in DC and it’s relatively easy to guess who’s considered a top student, both by the HS and by colleges. For one thing, we’ve got access to Naviance and that is a pretty accurate indication of the grades and test scores of whose getting in where. And if you, as a parent are involved at the HS and your kid’s life, you have a decent sense of who the student leaders are in various activities and who earns what awards at assemblies. And then there is the fact that every quarter the public school posts on a bulletin board by the main entrance who made principal’s list and honor roll by grade and the private school posts the rankings of the top 20% at the end of every semester by its main office. No, I wasn’t obsessed and tracking each student’s successes or grades or college admissions and I’m sure I don’t know who all the top students are but it’s not that difficult to know who most are. And, yes, in my very recent experience with four kids in private and public HS, the majority of top students are picking UVA over Tech if deciding between the two. My kids had/have plenty of very smart friends at Tech but the vast majority who also applied to UVA were either rejected or waitlisted by UVA.

Of course this is what colleges consider. The point is no matter how many anecdotes parents observe, they have not reviewed the applications. The key word here is "guess."

Except here all of the relevant metrics - admission rate, yield, grades and test scores - are all published by the state and are easily accessible to anyone interested. And they leave no doubt that UVA attracts and enrolls way more top students than VT. It’s not even debatable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

How do you know who is very top? How do you know colleges agree with your assessment of who is very top?

DP. Please, let’s not pretend that any competitive college does not consider top students based on grades, test scores and ECs.

Ive had three kids graduate from a large NOVA public high school in the last five years and another from a private school in DC and it’s relatively easy to guess who’s considered a top student, both by the HS and by colleges. For one thing, we’ve got access to Naviance and that is a pretty accurate indication of the grades and test scores of whose getting in where. And if you, as a parent are involved at the HS and your kid’s life, you have a decent sense of who the student leaders are in various activities and who earns what awards at assemblies. And then there is the fact that every quarter the public school posts on a bulletin board by the main entrance who made principal’s list and honor roll by grade and the private school posts the rankings of the top 20% at the end of every semester by its main office. No, I wasn’t obsessed and tracking each student’s successes or grades or college admissions and I’m sure I don’t know who all the top students are but it’s not that difficult to know who most are. And, yes, in my very recent experience with four kids in private and public HS, the majority of top students are picking UVA over Tech if deciding between the two. My kids had/have plenty of very smart friends at Tech but the vast majority who also applied to UVA were either rejected or waitlisted by UVA.

Of course this is what colleges consider. The point is no matter how many anecdotes parents observe, they have not reviewed the applications. The key word here is "guess."

Except here all of the relevant metrics - admission rate, yield, grades and test scores - are all published by the state and are easily accessible to anyone interested. And they leave no doubt that UVA attracts and enrolls way more top students than VT. It’s not even debatable.

You know for a fact that every kid that applied to VT also applied to UVA? You know for a fact that every kid that got in at UVA was also accepted at VT?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

How do you know who is very top? How do you know colleges agree with your assessment of who is very top?

DP. Please, let’s not pretend that any competitive college does not consider top students based on grades, test scores and ECs.

Ive had three kids graduate from a large NOVA public high school in the last five years and another from a private school in DC and it’s relatively easy to guess who’s considered a top student, both by the HS and by colleges. For one thing, we’ve got access to Naviance and that is a pretty accurate indication of the grades and test scores of whose getting in where. And if you, as a parent are involved at the HS and your kid’s life, you have a decent sense of who the student leaders are in various activities and who earns what awards at assemblies. And then there is the fact that every quarter the public school posts on a bulletin board by the main entrance who made principal’s list and honor roll by grade and the private school posts the rankings of the top 20% at the end of every semester by its main office. No, I wasn’t obsessed and tracking each student’s successes or grades or college admissions and I’m sure I don’t know who all the top students are but it’s not that difficult to know who most are. And, yes, in my very recent experience with four kids in private and public HS, the majority of top students are picking UVA over Tech if deciding between the two. My kids had/have plenty of very smart friends at Tech but the vast majority who also applied to UVA were either rejected or waitlisted by UVA.

Of course this is what colleges consider. The point is no matter how many anecdotes parents observe, they have not reviewed the applications. The key word here is "guess."

Except here all of the relevant metrics - admission rate, yield, grades and test scores - are all published by the state and are easily accessible to anyone interested. And they leave no doubt that UVA attracts and enrolls way more top students than VT. It’s not even debatable.

You know for a fact that every kid that applied to VT also applied to UVA? You know for a fact that every kid that got in at UVA was also accepted at VT?

It’s impossible to reason with someone so stubborn and illogical. You are never going to be convinced. Willful blindness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

How do you know who is very top? How do you know colleges agree with your assessment of who is very top?

DP. Please, let’s not pretend that any competitive college does not consider top students based on grades, test scores and ECs.

Ive had three kids graduate from a large NOVA public high school in the last five years and another from a private school in DC and it’s relatively easy to guess who’s considered a top student, both by the HS and by colleges. For one thing, we’ve got access to Naviance and that is a pretty accurate indication of the grades and test scores of whose getting in where. And if you, as a parent are involved at the HS and your kid’s life, you have a decent sense of who the student leaders are in various activities and who earns what awards at assemblies. And then there is the fact that every quarter the public school posts on a bulletin board by the main entrance who made principal’s list and honor roll by grade and the private school posts the rankings of the top 20% at the end of every semester by its main office. No, I wasn’t obsessed and tracking each student’s successes or grades or college admissions and I’m sure I don’t know who all the top students are but it’s not that difficult to know who most are. And, yes, in my very recent experience with four kids in private and public HS, the majority of top students are picking UVA over Tech if deciding between the two. My kids had/have plenty of very smart friends at Tech but the vast majority who also applied to UVA were either rejected or waitlisted by UVA.

Of course this is what colleges consider. The point is no matter how many anecdotes parents observe, they have not reviewed the applications. The key word here is "guess."

Except here all of the relevant metrics - admission rate, yield, grades and test scores - are all published by the state and are easily accessible to anyone interested. And they leave no doubt that UVA attracts and enrolls way more top students than VT. It’s not even debatable.

You know for a fact that every kid that applied to VT also applied to UVA? You know for a fact that every kid that got in at UVA was also accepted at VT?

It’s impossible to reason with someone so stubborn and illogical. You are never going to be convinced. Willful blindness.

The process is far more nuanced and cannot be simplified to anecdotes and limited data.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

How do you know who is very top? How do you know colleges agree with your assessment of who is very top?

DP. Please, let’s not pretend that any competitive college does not consider top students based on grades, test scores and ECs.

Ive had three kids graduate from a large NOVA public high school in the last five years and another from a private school in DC and it’s relatively easy to guess who’s considered a top student, both by the HS and by colleges. For one thing, we’ve got access to Naviance and that is a pretty accurate indication of the grades and test scores of whose getting in where. And if you, as a parent are involved at the HS and your kid’s life, you have a decent sense of who the student leaders are in various activities and who earns what awards at assemblies. And then there is the fact that every quarter the public school posts on a bulletin board by the main entrance who made principal’s list and honor roll by grade and the private school posts the rankings of the top 20% at the end of every semester by its main office. No, I wasn’t obsessed and tracking each student’s successes or grades or college admissions and I’m sure I don’t know who all the top students are but it’s not that difficult to know who most are. And, yes, in my very recent experience with four kids in private and public HS, the majority of top students are picking UVA over Tech if deciding between the two. My kids had/have plenty of very smart friends at Tech but the vast majority who also applied to UVA were either rejected or waitlisted by UVA.

Of course this is what colleges consider. The point is no matter how many anecdotes parents observe, they have not reviewed the applications. The key word here is "guess."

Except here all of the relevant metrics - admission rate, yield, grades and test scores - are all published by the state and are easily accessible to anyone interested. And they leave no doubt that UVA attracts and enrolls way more top students than VT. It’s not even debatable.

You know for a fact that every kid that applied to VT also applied to UVA? You know for a fact that every kid that got in at UVA was also accepted at VT?

It’s impossible to reason with someone so stubborn and illogical. You are never going to be convinced. Willful blindness.

The process is far more nuanced and cannot be simplified to anecdotes and limited data.

Yea, sure, ok. The state shouldn’t even bother publishing the numbers, I guess - they mean nothing. It also means nothing that so many of us have had so many kids apply - and know so many more who applied - to both schools, and there’s no question that more got into VT and not UVA than the other way around.

All that matters is that, in the face of clear and detailed numbers posted by the state, and literally generations of kids applying to both and seeing the pattern that I’ve described, the pattern is actually “much more nuanced” and in fact it’s no harder on average to get into UVA than VT.

You’re right. You win.

Ok?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. Let’s be fair and rational about this. Yes, there are students at the very top of the class in FCPS who choose VT. But there are many more who choose UVA, William & Mary, OOS flagships, and top privates. Tech is not a typical destination for very top students - except maybe engineering.

How do you know who is very top? How do you know colleges agree with your assessment of who is very top?

DP. Please, let’s not pretend that any competitive college does not consider top students based on grades, test scores and ECs.

Ive had three kids graduate from a large NOVA public high school in the last five years and another from a private school in DC and it’s relatively easy to guess who’s considered a top student, both by the HS and by colleges. For one thing, we’ve got access to Naviance and that is a pretty accurate indication of the grades and test scores of whose getting in where. And if you, as a parent are involved at the HS and your kid’s life, you have a decent sense of who the student leaders are in various activities and who earns what awards at assemblies. And then there is the fact that every quarter the public school posts on a bulletin board by the main entrance who made principal’s list and honor roll by grade and the private school posts the rankings of the top 20% at the end of every semester by its main office. No, I wasn’t obsessed and tracking each student’s successes or grades or college admissions and I’m sure I don’t know who all the top students are but it’s not that difficult to know who most are. And, yes, in my very recent experience with four kids in private and public HS, the majority of top students are picking UVA over Tech if deciding between the two. My kids had/have plenty of very smart friends at Tech but the vast majority who also applied to UVA were either rejected or waitlisted by UVA.

Of course this is what colleges consider. The point is no matter how many anecdotes parents observe, they have not reviewed the applications. The key word here is "guess."

Except here all of the relevant metrics - admission rate, yield, grades and test scores - are all published by the state and are easily accessible to anyone interested. And they leave no doubt that UVA attracts and enrolls way more top students than VT. It’s not even debatable.

You know for a fact that every kid that applied to VT also applied to UVA? You know for a fact that every kid that got in at UVA was also accepted at VT?

It’s impossible to reason with someone so stubborn and illogical. You are never going to be convinced. Willful blindness.

The process is far more nuanced and cannot be simplified to anecdotes and limited data.

Yea, sure, ok. The state shouldn’t even bother publishing the numbers, I guess - they mean nothing. It also means nothing that so many of us have had so many kids apply - and know so many more who applied - to both schools, and there’s no question that more got into VT and not UVA than the other way around.

All that matters is that, in the face of clear and detailed numbers posted by the state, and literally generations of kids applying to both and seeing the pattern that I’ve described, the pattern is actually “much more nuanced” and in fact it’s no harder on average to get into UVA than VT.

You’re right. You win.

Ok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we ought to discuss why UVA is allowed to have a 24% admission rate as a state-funded PUBLIC university. It shouldn't receive state funding with such a low admission rate, since it is not really serving enough Virginia students.

I can play this game, too.

Sorry, but it’s no more selective than Virginia Tech. We have no idea what you’re talking about.