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Anonymous wrote:At Lafayette there were maybe 2-3 masked kids per room, everyone else had them off.

Wow, I definitely think you will notice a difference between predominantly white schools, and predominately black schools. My school is 90+% black, everyone wore a mask.

I noticed in my predominantly white ES that a much larger percentage of black students were masked than white. That makes sense to me, however. If your community has felt the effects more, and lives with a heightened sense of threat on a daily basis, you might easily be slower to unmask. Our black students who really never fully/effectively masked during the pandemic were unmasked today however.

Yes, rich white people have seen it as a status symbol to be unafraid of COVID infection and its consequences.

"My children are not wearing a mask at school, because my family can afford to gamble the medical bills and lost productivity from long-COVID."

Again, CDC's "All green!" isn't about the likelihood of infection, but about the likelihood of hospital systems breaking down. It is a "Go on ahead and risk your and your employees' health for now, while you can! We'll let you know if and when we're on the brink of collapse and you can pull back then!"

Actually, progressives, which in this area are disproportionately rich and white, are the group most afraid of Covid:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/briefing/covid-risks-poll-americans.html

It remains true that several JKLMs seem to be the least masked schools in DCPS this week, including teachers.

Well, they are the most vaccinated ones, so that makes sense.

You know, OK. You can convince me that the rich white people at the broadly unmasked JKLMs believe that 2- and 3-shot series of COVID vaccine are sufficient to keep everyone in their household healthy and competitive for future college sports. You can convince me that the rich white people unmasking in dense public buildings daily are not showing off that they're fine with gambling on the risk of long-covid, but that they just don't even think of long-COVID. OK. I'm convinced.

What are you trying to say? Yes, they do believe in science, and yes, they have the ability to evaluate risk rationally. "Gambling on the risk of Long Covid"? You clearly aren't of the rational or science-minded sort.

Gaslighting heavy.

NP. Absolutely gaslighting.

Care to explain what you mean? Because you aren't making sense to several posters.

That would require making a coherent, fact-based argument. Or maybe not. But it's definitely harder than typing a two-word sentence.

Gambling on the risks of long-covid when vaccinated, irrational fear or science-based concern?
Science seems to suggest vaccination reduces the risk of long covid by about half, but 9 to 14% of breakthrough cases still lead to long-covid.
This published long-covid researcher gives a little summary of each of 8 relevant studies right here https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1504971103470510083?refresh=1647658317

As they say, there are studies that show that Long Covid is a common phenomenon, and then there are studies that have a control arm. I put more stock into this large meta-analysis done by actual experts in the field and published in an actual medical journal:

https://www.journalofinfection.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0163-4453%2821%2900555-7

But I'm sure you think these experts are trying to gaslight you as well.

There are posters on anonymous forums who'd like you to think you're looking at the wrong studies and there is the Government Accountability Office in the Legislative Branch https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-22-105666 .

Whatever the federal government says doesn't override the basic principle that studies with control groups are superior to studies without, especially when it comes to such poorly defined syndromes as Long Covid, where studies largely have to rely on subjective reporting. That's not something some poster on an anonymous forum wants you to believe, it's what any scientist would confirm. Long Covid studies with control groups have consistently shown little difference in reported symptoms between patients with confirmed infection and those without.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these comments about kids who choose to mask being "fearful." My kids, in ES and MS, understand that by continuing to mask indoors we reduce the odds of someone in our family getting covid. They, like we, would rather avoid getting covid so they choose to continue to mask. They don't seem to mind wearing them and their education doesn't seem to have suffered because they are wearing masks. They don't wear masks outside because they know it doesn't make a difference. They also wear KN95s, not cloth, because they know that cloth masks are pointless and if you are going to cover your face you may as well use something that is effective. Their lives are pretty much back-to-normal except for wearing masks indoors. They know that even with mask wearing there is a chance someone in our house will get covid because we are not locking down completely, but they also know that the odds are good that no one in our household will be hospitalized or die.
Seems like rational decision-making to me. It does upset them when other kids accuse them of being "scared," or don't understand that just because masks are now optional, it still might be a good idea to wear them.

You are right, it could be just a rational choice to reduce your risk of getting Covid. (Although you do have to wonder if they are thinking this through long-term -- the virus isn't going away, we will eventually catch it, which for a kid might actually be a good thing because they will build immunity at a low-risk age against a virus they will have to encounter over and over for the rest of their lives. Are they going to mask indoors forever?) But there are definitely kids who are scared. Maybe they are in the minority, but they are not rare. We went hiking with friends recently, and one of their young kids didn't want to take off her mask out on the breezy trail, even though nobody else in our group was. That is a sign of unreasonable anxiety, and I felt really bad for the kid.

This is my thinking. If we are going to keep cycling through acute and calmer periods with this virus for some undefined extended period of time, my kids and I...we all need breaks. We can't stay at DEFCON-1 indefinitely. I'm glad that for many of you, masks don't bother your kids. My kids are super compliant, but really hate them. We didn't take advantage of the pre-Delta lull, thinking that vaccines were coming for elementary-aged kids and *then* we could ease up. And despite our extreme caution and efforts to "do our part to stop the spread", Omicron hit as soon as the kids were vaxxed and they got no reprieve. We've been so careful and conscientious the last two years, and my little kids missed out on A LOT, so this time around, we're going to take more risks than we normally would during this lull (they gleefully unmasked at school yesterday), recognizing we may have to hunker back down, masks and all, if/when things get bad again.

So glad to hear you are giving your kids a break. I have grieved so much for the kids during this time. I left DC to get my kids out of the mask and out of the constant fear and confusion. We've been just fine and while my children were compliant last year, I can see that the masking was traumatizing by the way they react if a business has a mask sign and unwillingness to participate in any activities that require masking. Daily life is relatively "normal", people have gotten and recovered from covid, there is no public shaming on either side. I am grateful we had the option to easily relocate. Kids get one childhood. Let them breathe.

Might want to focus on building resilience if your kids were traumatized by wearing a mask indoors.

+1. " Grieved?" "Constant fear and confusion?" "Traumatizing?" Stop raising such fragile snowflakes.

Plus one.

And yes there was a lot of constant fear and confusion because it’s a novel virus. We wiped down our groceries because we didn’t know. We didn’t mask in the beginning because we didn’t know.

So it was confusing. We also thought it would be 6 weeks.

But you moved so move on. And I hope that you never got asymptomatic covid. I hope those who got it don’t have some medical problem in 10 years.

I hope we find out in time why some got it and others didn’t. One of my dear friends got covid in March 2020 w her husband. He is 100% fine and she still loses her breath randomly. She used to peloton 2 times a day and now getting on the bike is hard. None of her kids got it, her husband never got it again. But no one knows why she got it and still has it like she did.

Recall that there is a child mental health crisis from the pandemic. Is this all bc of masks? Probably not. But masks contribute to the sense of abnormality. So when a person is upset about the trauma that her children have experienced, consider that she is not exaggerating. Try to have the empathy you are requesting from others.

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"Trauma" may be too strong a word (but it's quite common today to use the term loosely), but children certainly have had a lot taken away from them these past two years, and their lives have been restricted in ways we haven't seen in more than a generation. Also, we know exactly that the PPs who are jumping all over this poster are likely the types who will deny any costs and negative impacts of masks on children, just like they denied the severely negative impacts of virtual schooling (or blamed them all on the parents). I'm not sure if it is a lack of empathy or just tribal blindness.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these comments about kids who choose to mask being "fearful." My kids, in ES and MS, understand that by continuing to mask indoors we reduce the odds of someone in our family getting covid. They, like we, would rather avoid getting covid so they choose to continue to mask. They don't seem to mind wearing them and their education doesn't seem to have suffered because they are wearing masks. They don't wear masks outside because they know it doesn't make a difference. They also wear KN95s, not cloth, because they know that cloth masks are pointless and if you are going to cover your face you may as well use something that is effective. Their lives are pretty much back-to-normal except for wearing masks indoors. They know that even with mask wearing there is a chance someone in our house will get covid because we are not locking down completely, but they also know that the odds are good that no one in our household will be hospitalized or die.
Seems like rational decision-making to me. It does upset them when other kids accuse them of being "scared," or don't understand that just because masks are now optional, it still might be a good idea to wear them.

You are right, it could be just a rational choice to reduce your risk of getting Covid. (Although you do have to wonder if they are thinking this through long-term -- the virus isn't going away, we will eventually catch it, which for a kid might actually be a good thing because they will build immunity at a low-risk age against a virus they will have to encounter over and over for the rest of their lives. Are they going to mask indoors forever?) But there are definitely kids who are scared. Maybe they are in the minority, but they are not rare. We went hiking with friends recently, and one of their young kids didn't want to take off her mask out on the breezy trail, even though nobody else in our group was. That is a sign of unreasonable anxiety, and I felt really bad for the kid.

This is my thinking. If we are going to keep cycling through acute and calmer periods with this virus for some undefined extended period of time, my kids and I...we all need breaks. We can't stay at DEFCON-1 indefinitely. I'm glad that for many of you, masks don't bother your kids. My kids are super compliant, but really hate them. We didn't take advantage of the pre-Delta lull, thinking that vaccines were coming for elementary-aged kids and *then* we could ease up. And despite our extreme caution and efforts to "do our part to stop the spread", Omicron hit as soon as the kids were vaxxed and they got no reprieve. We've been so careful and conscientious the last two years, and my little kids missed out on A LOT, so this time around, we're going to take more risks than we normally would during this lull (they gleefully unmasked at school yesterday), recognizing we may have to hunker back down, masks and all, if/when things get bad again.

So glad to hear you are giving your kids a break. I have grieved so much for the kids during this time. I left DC to get my kids out of the mask and out of the constant fear and confusion. We've been just fine and while my children were compliant last year, I can see that the masking was traumatizing by the way they react if a business has a mask sign and unwillingness to participate in any activities that require masking. Daily life is relatively "normal", people have gotten and recovered from covid, there is no public shaming on either side. I am grateful we had the option to easily relocate. Kids get one childhood. Let them breathe.

Might want to focus on building resilience if your kids were traumatized by wearing a mask indoors.

+1. " Grieved?" "Constant fear and confusion?" "Traumatizing?" Stop raising such fragile snowflakes.

Plus one.

And yes there was a lot of constant fear and confusion because it’s a novel virus. We wiped down our groceries because we didn’t know. We didn’t mask in the beginning because we didn’t know.

So it was confusing. We also thought it would be 6 weeks.

But you moved so move on. And I hope that you never got asymptomatic covid. I hope those who got it don’t have some medical problem in 10 years.

I hope we find out in time why some got it and others didn’t. One of my dear friends got covid in March 2020 w her husband. He is 100% fine and she still loses her breath randomly. She used to peloton 2 times a day and now getting on the bike is hard. None of her kids got it, her husband never got it again. But no one knows why she got it and still has it like she did.

Recall that there is a child mental health crisis from the pandemic. Is this all bc of masks? Probably not. But masks contribute to the sense of abnormality. So when a person is upset about the trauma that her children have experienced, consider that she is not exaggerating. Try to have the empathy you are requesting from others.

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"Trauma" may be too strong a word (but it's quite common today to use the term loosely), but children certainly have had a lot taken away from them these past two years, and their lives have been restricted in ways we haven't seen in more than a generation. Also, we know exactly that the PPs who are jumping all over this poster are likely the types who will deny any costs and negative impacts of masks on children, just like they denied the severely negative impacts of virtual schooling (or blamed them all on the parents). I'm not sure if it is a lack of empathy or just tribal blindness.

I have two friends with kids that have had severe mental health issues based on the pandemic. It's troubling that these get erased, or blamed on parents, particularly when major medical groups have discussed the mental health crises facing kids. The need to minimize these problems (inclusive of critiquing the descriptive words used, to suggest they are 'too much') in my opinion just continues to exacerbate the harms to children.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand these comments about kids who choose to mask being "fearful." My kids, in ES and MS, understand that by continuing to mask indoors we reduce the odds of someone in our family getting covid. They, like we, would rather avoid getting covid so they choose to continue to mask. They don't seem to mind wearing them and their education doesn't seem to have suffered because they are wearing masks. They don't wear masks outside because they know it doesn't make a difference. They also wear KN95s, not cloth, because they know that cloth masks are pointless and if you are going to cover your face you may as well use something that is effective. Their lives are pretty much back-to-normal except for wearing masks indoors. They know that even with mask wearing there is a chance someone in our house will get covid because we are not locking down completely, but they also know that the odds are good that no one in our household will be hospitalized or die.
Seems like rational decision-making to me. It does upset them when other kids accuse them of being "scared," or don't understand that just because masks are now optional, it still might be a good idea to wear them.

You are right, it could be just a rational choice to reduce your risk of getting Covid. (Although you do have to wonder if they are thinking this through long-term -- the virus isn't going away, we will eventually catch it, which for a kid might actually be a good thing because they will build immunity at a low-risk age against a virus they will have to encounter over and over for the rest of their lives. Are they going to mask indoors forever?) But there are definitely kids who are scared. Maybe they are in the minority, but they are not rare. We went hiking with friends recently, and one of their young kids didn't want to take off her mask out on the breezy trail, even though nobody else in our group was. That is a sign of unreasonable anxiety, and I felt really bad for the kid.

This is my thinking. If we are going to keep cycling through acute and calmer periods with this virus for some undefined extended period of time, my kids and I...we all need breaks. We can't stay at DEFCON-1 indefinitely. I'm glad that for many of you, masks don't bother your kids. My kids are super compliant, but really hate them. We didn't take advantage of the pre-Delta lull, thinking that vaccines were coming for elementary-aged kids and *then* we could ease up. And despite our extreme caution and efforts to "do our part to stop the spread", Omicron hit as soon as the kids were vaxxed and they got no reprieve. We've been so careful and conscientious the last two years, and my little kids missed out on A LOT, so this time around, we're going to take more risks than we normally would during this lull (they gleefully unmasked at school yesterday), recognizing we may have to hunker back down, masks and all, if/when things get bad again.

So glad to hear you are giving your kids a break. I have grieved so much for the kids during this time. I left DC to get my kids out of the mask and out of the constant fear and confusion. We've been just fine and while my children were compliant last year, I can see that the masking was traumatizing by the way they react if a business has a mask sign and unwillingness to participate in any activities that require masking. Daily life is relatively "normal", people have gotten and recovered from covid, there is no public shaming on either side. I am grateful we had the option to easily relocate. Kids get one childhood. Let them breathe.

Might want to focus on building resilience if your kids were traumatized by wearing a mask indoors.

Why do you have to be a dick? Seriously, the PP said nothing to shame anyone else or suggest that anyone do anything different. They just moved to respond to something that they perceived as being detrimental to their child.

+ 100 the pro maskers forever will stoop as low as needed to legitimize their own mental challenges.

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Anonymous wrote:Just consider for a moment that some of the families continuing to mask have medical reasons for doing so and while you celebrate progress, they are still at risk. My family does not ask others to mask but we continue to mask and do not need to disclose our private health struggle to defend our decision. Tried lightly when you make sweeping generalizations and assumptions.

Ok but why weren’t they masking pre-covid??

Maybe because there wasn't a novel virus spreading that they'd be at severe risk from catching?

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Anonymous wrote:At Lafayette there were maybe 2-3 masked kids per room, everyone else had them off.

Wow, I definitely think you will notice a difference between predominantly white schools, and predominately black schools. My school is 90+% black, everyone wore a mask.

I noticed in my predominantly white ES that a much larger percentage of black students were masked than white. That makes sense to me, however. If your community has felt the effects more, and lives with a heightened sense of threat on a daily basis, you might easily be slower to unmask. Our black students who really never fully/effectively masked during the pandemic were unmasked today however.

Yes, rich white people have seen it as a status symbol to be unafraid of COVID infection and its consequences.

"My children are not wearing a mask at school, because my family can afford to gamble the medical bills and lost productivity from long-COVID."

Again, CDC's "All green!" isn't about the likelihood of infection, but about the likelihood of hospital systems breaking down. It is a "Go on ahead and risk your and your employees' health for now, while you can! We'll let you know if and when we're on the brink of collapse and you can pull back then!"

Actually, progressives, which in this area are disproportionately rich and white, are the group most afraid of Covid:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/briefing/covid-risks-poll-americans.html

It remains true that several JKLMs seem to be the least masked schools in DCPS this week, including teachers.

Well, they are the most vaccinated ones, so that makes sense.

You know, OK. You can convince me that the rich white people at the broadly unmasked JKLMs believe that 2- and 3-shot series of COVID vaccine are sufficient to keep everyone in their household healthy and competitive for future college sports. You can convince me that the rich white people unmasking in dense public buildings daily are not showing off that they're fine with gambling on the risk of long-covid, but that they just don't even think of long-COVID. OK. I'm convinced.

My kids aren't going to be competitive for college sports whether they get covid now or not. And I already have a lifelong chronic disease that'll take 10 to 20 years off my life expectancy whether I get long covid or not. So yes, it's true, I don't really think about those factors. Everyone in our family has had as many doses of the vaccine as the CDC has authorized for them to take, and now we don't require our kids to wear masks at school while transmission in our community is quite low. If rates go back up, we'll change that.

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Anonymous wrote:At Lafayette there were maybe 2-3 masked kids per room, everyone else had them off.

Wow, I definitely think you will notice a difference between predominantly white schools, and predominately black schools. My school is 90+% black, everyone wore a mask.

I noticed in my predominantly white ES that a much larger percentage of black students were masked than white. That makes sense to me, however. If your community has felt the effects more, and lives with a heightened sense of threat on a daily basis, you might easily be slower to unmask. Our black students who really never fully/effectively masked during the pandemic were unmasked today however.

Yes, rich white people have seen it as a status symbol to be unafraid of COVID infection and its consequences.

"My children are not wearing a mask at school, because my family can afford to gamble the medical bills and lost productivity from long-COVID."

Again, CDC's "All green!" isn't about the likelihood of infection, but about the likelihood of hospital systems breaking down. It is a "Go on ahead and risk your and your employees' health for now, while you can! We'll let you know if and when we're on the brink of collapse and you can pull back then!"

Actually, progressives, which in this area are disproportionately rich and white, are the group most afraid of Covid:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/briefing/covid-risks-poll-americans.html

It remains true that several JKLMs seem to be the least masked schools in DCPS this week, including teachers.

Well, they are the most vaccinated ones, so that makes sense.

You know, OK. You can convince me that the rich white people at the broadly unmasked JKLMs believe that 2- and 3-shot series of COVID vaccine are sufficient to keep everyone in their household healthy and competitive for future college sports. You can convince me that the rich white people unmasking in dense public buildings daily are not showing off that they're fine with gambling on the risk of long-covid, but that they just don't even think of long-COVID. OK. I'm convinced.

What are you trying to say? Yes, they do believe in science, and yes, they have the ability to evaluate risk rationally. "Gambling on the risk of Long Covid"? You clearly aren't of the rational or science-minded sort.

Gaslighting heavy.

NP. Absolutely gaslighting.

Care to explain what you mean? Because you aren't making sense to several posters.

That would require making a coherent, fact-based argument. Or maybe not. But it's definitely harder than typing a two-word sentence.

Gambling on the risks of long-covid when vaccinated, irrational fear or science-based concern?
Science seems to suggest vaccination reduces the risk of long covid by about half, but 9 to 14% of breakthrough cases still lead to long-covid.
This published long-covid researcher gives a little summary of each of 8 relevant studies right here https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1504971103470510083?refresh=1647658317

So this Twitter thread does not make it easy to read the studies linked, and frankly, I don't trust "Twitter threads" as a source of information. This person doesn't seem to have any relevant background; they seem to be in "generative music" and machine learning. So forgive me if I don't appreciate their interpretations.

What I need to know is whether "long COVID" occurs with a greater frequency and severity than any other post-viral syndromes, which are completely normal. Like, I do not care about a 10% chance of anosmia for a few months.

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Anonymous wrote:Just consider for a moment that some of the families continuing to mask have medical reasons for doing so and while you celebrate progress, they are still at risk. My family does not ask others to mask but we continue to mask and do not need to disclose our private health struggle to defend our decision. Tried lightly when you make sweeping generalizations and assumptions.

Ok but why weren’t they masking pre-covid??

Maybe because there wasn't a novel virus spreading that they'd be at severe risk from catching?

But why was no one insisting that preK kids wear face masks in 2019? They were more at risk then from RSV and flu than they are now from those two plus COVID. And no one was screeching about the fact that, for gods sake, the kids aren’t vaccinated yet from RSV, so how can anyone with a conscience unmask anywhere?

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Anonymous wrote:Just consider for a moment that some of the families continuing to mask have medical reasons for doing so and while you celebrate progress, they are still at risk. My family does not ask others to mask but we continue to mask and do not need to disclose our private health struggle to defend our decision. Tried lightly when you make sweeping generalizations and assumptions.

Ok but why weren’t they masking pre-covid??

Maybe because there wasn't a novel virus spreading that they'd be at severe risk from catching?

But why was no one insisting that preK kids wear face masks in 2019? They were more at risk then from RSV and flu than they are now from those two plus COVID. And no one was screeching about the fact that, for gods sake, the kids aren’t vaccinated yet from RSV, so how can anyone with a conscience unmask anywhere?

Lol imagine people learning new information to make different decisions in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:Just consider for a moment that some of the families continuing to mask have medical reasons for doing so and while you celebrate progress, they are still at risk. My family does not ask others to mask but we continue to mask and do not need to disclose our private health struggle to defend our decision. Tried lightly when you make sweeping generalizations and assumptions.

Ok but why weren’t they masking pre-covid??

Maybe because there wasn't a novel virus spreading that they'd be at severe risk from catching?

But why was no one insisting that preK kids wear face masks in 2019? They were more at risk then from RSV and flu than they are now from those two plus COVID. And no one was screeching about the fact that, for gods sake, the kids aren’t vaccinated yet from RSV, so how can anyone with a conscience unmask anywhere?

I do wonder this exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Just consider for a moment that some of the families continuing to mask have medical reasons for doing so and while you celebrate progress, they are still at risk. My family does not ask others to mask but we continue to mask and do not need to disclose our private health struggle to defend our decision. Tried lightly when you make sweeping generalizations and assumptions.

Ok but why weren’t they masking pre-covid??

Maybe because there wasn't a novel virus spreading that they'd be at severe risk from catching?

But why was no one insisting that preK kids wear face masks in 2019? They were more at risk then from RSV and flu than they are now from those two plus COVID. And no one was screeching about the fact that, for gods sake, the kids aren’t vaccinated yet from RSV, so how can anyone with a conscience unmask anywhere?

Lol imagine people learning new information to make different decisions in the future.

…so are you saying everyone should have been masking? Do you understand the amount of masking that would require?

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Anonymous wrote:At Lafayette there were maybe 2-3 masked kids per room, everyone else had them off.

Wow, I definitely think you will notice a difference between predominantly white schools, and predominately black schools. My school is 90+% black, everyone wore a mask.

I noticed in my predominantly white ES that a much larger percentage of black students were masked than white. That makes sense to me, however. If your community has felt the effects more, and lives with a heightened sense of threat on a daily basis, you might easily be slower to unmask. Our black students who really never fully/effectively masked during the pandemic were unmasked today however.

Yes, rich white people have seen it as a status symbol to be unafraid of COVID infection and its consequences.

"My children are not wearing a mask at school, because my family can afford to gamble the medical bills and lost productivity from long-COVID."

Again, CDC's "All green!" isn't about the likelihood of infection, but about the likelihood of hospital systems breaking down. It is a "Go on ahead and risk your and your employees' health for now, while you can! We'll let you know if and when we're on the brink of collapse and you can pull back then!"

Actually, progressives, which in this area are disproportionately rich and white, are the group most afraid of Covid:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/briefing/covid-risks-poll-americans.html

It remains true that several JKLMs seem to be the least masked schools in DCPS this week, including teachers.

Well, they are the most vaccinated ones, so that makes sense.

You know, OK. You can convince me that the rich white people at the broadly unmasked JKLMs believe that 2- and 3-shot series of COVID vaccine are sufficient to keep everyone in their household healthy and competitive for future college sports. You can convince me that the rich white people unmasking in dense public buildings daily are not showing off that they're fine with gambling on the risk of long-covid, but that they just don't even think of long-COVID. OK. I'm convinced.

What are you trying to say? Yes, they do believe in science, and yes, they have the ability to evaluate risk rationally. "Gambling on the risk of Long Covid"? You clearly aren't of the rational or science-minded sort.

Gaslighting heavy.

NP. Absolutely gaslighting.

Care to explain what you mean? Because you aren't making sense to several posters.

That would require making a coherent, fact-based argument. Or maybe not. But it's definitely harder than typing a two-word sentence.

Gambling on the risks of long-covid when vaccinated, irrational fear or science-based concern?
Science seems to suggest vaccination reduces the risk of long covid by about half, but 9 to 14% of breakthrough cases still lead to long-covid.
This published long-covid researcher gives a little summary of each of 8 relevant studies right here https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1504971103470510083?refresh=1647658317

So this Twitter thread does not make it easy to read the studies linked, and frankly, I don't trust "Twitter threads" as a source of information. This person doesn't seem to have any relevant background; they seem to be in "generative music" and machine learning. So forgive me if I don't appreciate their interpretations.

What I need to know is whether "long COVID" occurs with a greater frequency and severity than any other post-viral syndromes, which are completely normal. Like, I do not care about a 10% chance of anosmia for a few months.

Agreed. The author of the quoted thread is a Long Covid patient, who has founded a patient-led research initiative. Hardly a background of medical expertise, and one that doesn't put you in the best position to make unbiased assessments. The systematic meta-analysis by British infectious disease experts linked above is a much better source.

[Anonymous]

Check out this hot take:

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher/status/1506263972273692676?s=20&t=MJh2i7FJVTsAjfb2hgMVyg

#NoFuchsLeftToGive

[Anonymous]

when I get a notification that there's a case in my kid's school, I'm glad my kid's still wearing a mask. (As far as I can tell.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check out this hot take:

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher/status/1506263972273692676?s=20&t=MJh2i7FJVTsAjfb2hgMVyg

#NoFuchsLeftToGive

This just makes me sad. One of my kids is scared to take off his mask because he’s scared of his teacher (a whole separate issue, yes). Incidentally, he was the one of my two kids who came home sick last week, despite the whole class masking.