A standing ovation for Dr. McKnight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong PP

Schools are open. Students may attend if they wish and simply need to wear a mask

Teachers per recent stats have been present save for this past week and an occasional miss.

But yes, let us all shut down because a small but vocal minority of parents want everyone to wait while they get comfortable with numbers.

Nope, not again, not another long shutdown that hurts the mental well-being of students.

Many of my kid's teachers got covid. That, plus sick kids, plus missing buses made for chaos. 2 weeks virtual would have been fine and helped stem the wave of omicron. No one is suggesting close schools.

Now, I agree that it is too late for a couple weeks of virtual to really help. But, kids should have the option to go virtual for the next few weeks to lessen the density and help resolve the omicron wave.

Half my kids teachers are out with covid so they spend most of the day in the cafeteria with 20% of the schoolmates doing worksheets. Virtual may have its drawbacks but seems preferable to this.

maybe for you, but half in person is better than 100% virtual, IMO.

Also, we are probably now on the downward trend of omicron. Maybe I could see going virtual for the two weeks after winter break, but it's too late now. Even if they made the decision, it would take a week or so to pivot to virtual for everyone. By that point, we will be at the tail end of omicron surge.

Half in person is better? Exactly how stupid are you? Teachers arent teaching new material BECAUSE half are out. They would have to re-teach. So the kids sitting in school are not benefiting because they are just doing busy work. How do you not understand this yet? How many people have to tell you this before you get it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong PP

Schools are open. Students may attend if they wish and simply need to wear a mask

Teachers per recent stats have been present save for this past week and an occasional miss.

But yes, let us all shut down because a small but vocal minority of parents want everyone to wait while they get comfortable with numbers.

Nope, not again, not another long shutdown that hurts the mental well-being of students.

Many of my kid's teachers got covid. That, plus sick kids, plus missing buses made for chaos. 2 weeks virtual would have been fine and helped stem the wave of omicron. No one is suggesting close schools.

Now, I agree that it is too late for a couple weeks of virtual to really help. But, kids should have the option to go virtual for the next few weeks to lessen the density and help resolve the omicron wave.

Half my kids teachers are out with covid so they spend most of the day in the cafeteria with 20% of the schoolmates doing worksheets. Virtual may have its drawbacks but seems preferable to this.

maybe for you, but half in person is better than 100% virtual, IMO.

Also, we are probably now on the downward trend of omicron. Maybe I could see going virtual for the two weeks after winter break, but it's too late now. Even if they made the decision, it would take a week or so to pivot to virtual for everyone. By that point, we will be at the tail end of omicron surge.

Half in person is better? Exactly how stupid are you? Teachers arent teaching new material BECAUSE half are out. They would have to re-teach. So the kids sitting in school are not benefiting because they are just doing busy work. How do you not understand this yet? How many people have to tell you this before you get it?

They don't care as long as their needs are met.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster who predicted the spike would happen after the holidays.

Timing-wise, we need to get through at least March. As long as kids are in-person only and eating indoors, I would expect many more infections, but at the schools that haven't been hit as hard yet.

My guess is there will be a smaller spike (less than 16K) again in two'ish weeks, but that could change depending on a number of factors (including whether MCPS sits on it's hands or does something). There could also be smaller spikes depending on weather factors and when the kids are able to eat outside again.

It will take just one person bringing covid back into the school to cause another outbreak/spike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong PP

Schools are open. Students may attend if they wish and simply need to wear a mask

Teachers per recent stats have been present save for this past week and an occasional miss.

But yes, let us all shut down because a small but vocal minority of parents want everyone to wait while they get comfortable with numbers.

Nope, not again, not another long shutdown that hurts the mental well-being of students.

Many of my kid's teachers got covid. That, plus sick kids, plus missing buses made for chaos. 2 weeks virtual would have been fine and helped stem the wave of omicron. No one is suggesting close schools.

Now, I agree that it is too late for a couple weeks of virtual to really help. But, kids should have the option to go virtual for the next few weeks to lessen the density and help resolve the omicron wave.

Half my kids teachers are out with covid so they spend most of the day in the cafeteria with 20% of the schoolmates doing worksheets. Virtual may have its drawbacks but seems preferable to this.

maybe for you, but half in person is better than 100% virtual, IMO.

Also, we are probably now on the downward trend of omicron. Maybe I could see going virtual for the two weeks after winter break, but it's too late now. Even if they made the decision, it would take a week or so to pivot to virtual for everyone. By that point, we will be at the tail end of omicron surge.

Half in person is better? Exactly how stupid are you? Teachers arent teaching new material BECAUSE half are out. They would have to re-teach. So the kids sitting in school are not benefiting because they are just doing busy work. How do you not understand this yet? How many people have to tell you this before you get it?

Let me spell it out for the "my child has had covid four times and they're fine" people.

I trust masking and outdoor eating. It's served us pretty well. We don't go to restaurants, but my child attended school all through the fall surge and was fine. My husband goes to the office in a mask. Also fine.

That doesn't mean I want to send my child back to sit in an auditorium with a hundred other kids. That's not learning. That's an infectious cluster. Not worth it.

When schools have the staff to teach we will be back. That could be Wednesday. It could be February.

[Anonymous]

Also, "taking a week to pivot to virtual" isn't going to stop the omicron surge. In fact, it will probably further spike it as infectious kids at all the schools continue to spread covid to their peers.

All those kids who had it over Christmas are about to catch it again .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, "taking a week to pivot to virtual" isn't going to stop the omicron surge. In fact, it will probably further spike it as infectious kids at all the schools continue to spread covid to their peers.

All those kids who had it over Christmas are about to catch it again .

Really? All of them?
This is why people tune you out. It’s like you’re hysterical. Reinfection is not that common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, "taking a week to pivot to virtual" isn't going to stop the omicron surge. In fact, it will probably further spike it as infectious kids at all the schools continue to spread covid to their peers.

All those kids who had it over Christmas are about to catch it again .

Really? All of them?
This is why people tune you out. It’s like you’re hysterical. Reinfection is not that common.

Can you show us the data?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, "taking a week to pivot to virtual" isn't going to stop the omicron surge. In fact, it will probably further spike it as infectious kids at all the schools continue to spread covid to their peers.

All those kids who had it over Christmas are about to catch it again .

Really? All of them?
This is why people tune you out. It’s like you’re hysterical. Reinfection is not that common.

Can you show us the data?

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/can-you-catch-omicron-twice-heres-what-doctors-say/2725213/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, "taking a week to pivot to virtual" isn't going to stop the omicron surge. In fact, it will probably further spike it as infectious kids at all the schools continue to spread covid to their peers.

All those kids who had it over Christmas are about to catch it again .

Really? All of them?
This is why people tune you out. It’s like you’re hysterical. Reinfection is not that common.

Can you show us the data?

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2108120

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster who predicted the spike would happen after the holidays.

Timing-wise, we need to get through at least March. As long as kids are in-person only and eating indoors, I would expect many more infections, but at the schools that haven't been hit as hard yet.

My guess is there will be a smaller spike (less than 16K) again in two'ish weeks, but that could change depending on a number of factors (including whether MCPS sits on it's hands or does something). There could also be smaller spikes depending on weather factors and when the kids are able to eat outside again.

It will take just one person bringing covid back into the school to cause another outbreak/spike.

Which means the risk will never go away, because there will always be someone with Covid at a school. So how long should any hybrid or virtual learning continue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, "taking a week to pivot to virtual" isn't going to stop the omicron surge. In fact, it will probably further spike it as infectious kids at all the schools continue to spread covid to their peers.

All those kids who had it over Christmas are about to catch it again .

Really? All of them?
This is why people tune you out. It’s like you’re hysterical. Reinfection is not that common.

Can you show us the data?

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2108120

That study is pre-omicton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong PP

Schools are open. Students may attend if they wish and simply need to wear a mask

Teachers per recent stats have been present save for this past week and an occasional miss.

But yes, let us all shut down because a small but vocal minority of parents want everyone to wait while they get comfortable with numbers.

Nope, not again, not another long shutdown that hurts the mental well-being of students.

Many of my kid's teachers got covid. That, plus sick kids, plus missing buses made for chaos. 2 weeks virtual would have been fine and helped stem the wave of omicron. No one is suggesting close schools.

Now, I agree that it is too late for a couple weeks of virtual to really help. But, kids should have the option to go virtual for the next few weeks to lessen the density and help resolve the omicron wave.

Half my kids teachers are out with covid so they spend most of the day in the cafeteria with 20% of the schoolmates doing worksheets. Virtual may have its drawbacks but seems preferable to this.

maybe for you, but half in person is better than 100% virtual, IMO.

Also, we are probably now on the downward trend of omicron. Maybe I could see going virtual for the two weeks after winter break, but it's too late now. Even if they made the decision, it would take a week or so to pivot to virtual for everyone. By that point, we will be at the tail end of omicron surge.

Half in person is better? Exactly how stupid are you? Teachers arent teaching new material BECAUSE half are out. They would have to re-teach. So the kids sitting in school are not benefiting because they are just doing busy work. How do you not understand this yet? How many people have to tell you this before you get it?

Let me spell it out for the "my child has had covid four times and they're fine" people.

I trust masking and outdoor eating. It's served us pretty well. We don't go to restaurants, but my child attended school all through the fall surge and was fine. My husband goes to the office in a mask. Also fine.

That doesn't mean I want to send my child back to sit in an auditorium with a hundred other kids. That's not learning. That's an infectious cluster. Not worth it.

When schools have the staff to teach we will be back. That could be Wednesday. It could be February.

To add onto this-I am a para. My job has been regulated to literal babysitting kids in an auditorium. There is no learning. For parents arguing, BUT SCHOOL IS FOR SOCIALIZATION! No kids are socializing. They are glued to their phones. It's actually eerily silent in there BECAUSE they aren't socializing. They arent learning. They arent socializing. They are potentially infecting other students and staff. At what point do you stop and say, "What are we doing here?" It is a disaster and people need to realize that. It's infuriating that people refuse to listen to people actually in the school buildings, who know what is going on. People keep trying their tired "teachers want to teach in jammies and not do their job". You couldnt be further from the truth, but I guess if that helps you sleep better at night.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong PP

Schools are open. Students may attend if they wish and simply need to wear a mask

Teachers per recent stats have been present save for this past week and an occasional miss.

But yes, let us all shut down because a small but vocal minority of parents want everyone to wait while they get comfortable with numbers.

Nope, not again, not another long shutdown that hurts the mental well-being of students.

Many of my kid's teachers got covid. That, plus sick kids, plus missing buses made for chaos. 2 weeks virtual would have been fine and helped stem the wave of omicron. No one is suggesting close schools.

Now, I agree that it is too late for a couple weeks of virtual to really help. But, kids should have the option to go virtual for the next few weeks to lessen the density and help resolve the omicron wave.

Half my kids teachers are out with covid so they spend most of the day in the cafeteria with 20% of the schoolmates doing worksheets. Virtual may have its drawbacks but seems preferable to this.

maybe for you, but half in person is better than 100% virtual, IMO.

Also, we are probably now on the downward trend of omicron. Maybe I could see going virtual for the two weeks after winter break, but it's too late now. Even if they made the decision, it would take a week or so to pivot to virtual for everyone. By that point, we will be at the tail end of omicron surge.

Half in person is better? Exactly how stupid are you? Teachers arent teaching new material BECAUSE half are out. They would have to re-teach. So the kids sitting in school are not benefiting because they are just doing busy work. How do you not understand this yet? How many people have to tell you this before you get it?

Let me spell it out for the "my child has had covid four times and they're fine" people.

I trust masking and outdoor eating. It's served us pretty well. We don't go to restaurants, but my child attended school all through the fall surge and was fine. My husband goes to the office in a mask. Also fine.

That doesn't mean I want to send my child back to sit in an auditorium with a hundred other kids. That's not learning. That's an infectious cluster. Not worth it.

When schools have the staff to teach we will be back. That could be Wednesday. It could be February.

To add onto this-I am a para. My job has been regulated to literal babysitting kids in an auditorium. There is no learning. For parents arguing, BUT SCHOOL IS FOR SOCIALIZATION! No kids are socializing. They are glued to their phones. It's actually eerily silent in there BECAUSE they aren't socializing. They arent learning. They arent socializing. They are potentially infecting other students and staff. At what point do you stop and say, "What are we doing here?" It is a disaster and people need to realize that. It's infuriating that people refuse to listen to people actually in the school buildings, who know what is going on. People keep trying their tired "teachers want to teach in jammies and not do their job". You couldnt be further from the truth, but I guess if that helps you sleep better at night.....

I am sorry for your experience. My child is in middle school with ball his teachers. No one is using phones or being herded into the cafeteria. Aside from one cancelled bus line it has been business as usual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong PP

Schools are open. Students may attend if they wish and simply need to wear a mask

Teachers per recent stats have been present save for this past week and an occasional miss.

But yes, let us all shut down because a small but vocal minority of parents want everyone to wait while they get comfortable with numbers.

Nope, not again, not another long shutdown that hurts the mental well-being of students.

Many of my kid's teachers got covid. That, plus sick kids, plus missing buses made for chaos. 2 weeks virtual would have been fine and helped stem the wave of omicron. No one is suggesting close schools.

Now, I agree that it is too late for a couple weeks of virtual to really help. But, kids should have the option to go virtual for the next few weeks to lessen the density and help resolve the omicron wave.

Half my kids teachers are out with covid so they spend most of the day in the cafeteria with 20% of the schoolmates doing worksheets. Virtual may have its drawbacks but seems preferable to this.

maybe for you, but half in person is better than 100% virtual, IMO.

Also, we are probably now on the downward trend of omicron. Maybe I could see going virtual for the two weeks after winter break, but it's too late now. Even if they made the decision, it would take a week or so to pivot to virtual for everyone. By that point, we will be at the tail end of omicron surge.

Half in person is better? Exactly how stupid are you? Teachers arent teaching new material BECAUSE half are out. They would have to re-teach. So the kids sitting in school are not benefiting because they are just doing busy work. How do you not understand this yet? How many people have to tell you this before you get it?

Let me spell it out for the "my child has had covid four times and they're fine" people.

I trust masking and outdoor eating. It's served us pretty well. We don't go to restaurants, but my child attended school all through the fall surge and was fine. My husband goes to the office in a mask. Also fine.

That doesn't mean I want to send my child back to sit in an auditorium with a hundred other kids. That's not learning. That's an infectious cluster. Not worth it.

When schools have the staff to teach we will be back. That could be Wednesday. It could be February.

To add onto this-I am a para. My job has been regulated to literal babysitting kids in an auditorium. There is no learning. For parents arguing, BUT SCHOOL IS FOR SOCIALIZATION! No kids are socializing. They are glued to their phones. It's actually eerily silent in there BECAUSE they aren't socializing. They arent learning. They arent socializing. They are potentially infecting other students and staff. At what point do you stop and say, "What are we doing here?" It is a disaster and people need to realize that. It's infuriating that people refuse to listen to people actually in the school buildings, who know what is going on. People keep trying their tired "teachers want to teach in jammies and not do their job". You couldnt be further from the truth, but I guess if that helps you sleep better at night.....

I am sorry for your experience. My child is in middle school with ball his teachers. No one is using phones or being herded into the cafeteria. Aside from one cancelled bus line it has been business as usual.

Let's see if that's true in two weeks. I pray that it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrong PP

Schools are open. Students may attend if they wish and simply need to wear a mask

Teachers per recent stats have been present save for this past week and an occasional miss.

But yes, let us all shut down because a small but vocal minority of parents want everyone to wait while they get comfortable with numbers.

Nope, not again, not another long shutdown that hurts the mental well-being of students.

Many of my kid's teachers got covid. That, plus sick kids, plus missing buses made for chaos. 2 weeks virtual would have been fine and helped stem the wave of omicron. No one is suggesting close schools.

Now, I agree that it is too late for a couple weeks of virtual to really help. But, kids should have the option to go virtual for the next few weeks to lessen the density and help resolve the omicron wave.

Half my kids teachers are out with covid so they spend most of the day in the cafeteria with 20% of the schoolmates doing worksheets. Virtual may have its drawbacks but seems preferable to this.

maybe for you, but half in person is better than 100% virtual, IMO.

Also, we are probably now on the downward trend of omicron. Maybe I could see going virtual for the two weeks after winter break, but it's too late now. Even if they made the decision, it would take a week or so to pivot to virtual for everyone. By that point, we will be at the tail end of omicron surge.

Half in person is better? Exactly how stupid are you? Teachers arent teaching new material BECAUSE half are out. They would have to re-teach. So the kids sitting in school are not benefiting because they are just doing busy work. How do you not understand this yet? How many people have to tell you this before you get it?

Let me spell it out for the "my child has had covid four times and they're fine" people.

I trust masking and outdoor eating. It's served us pretty well. We don't go to restaurants, but my child attended school all through the fall surge and was fine. My husband goes to the office in a mask. Also fine.

That doesn't mean I want to send my child back to sit in an auditorium with a hundred other kids. That's not learning. That's an infectious cluster. Not worth it.

When schools have the staff to teach we will be back. That could be Wednesday. It could be February.

To add onto this-I am a para. My job has been regulated to literal babysitting kids in an auditorium. There is no learning. For parents arguing, BUT SCHOOL IS FOR SOCIALIZATION! No kids are socializing. They are glued to their phones. It's actually eerily silent in there BECAUSE they aren't socializing. They arent learning. They arent socializing. They are potentially infecting other students and staff. At what point do you stop and say, "What are we doing here?" It is a disaster and people need to realize that. It's infuriating that people refuse to listen to people actually in the school buildings, who know what is going on. People keep trying their tired "teachers want to teach in jammies and not do their job". You couldnt be further from the truth, but I guess if that helps you sleep better at night.....

I am sorry for your experience. My child is in middle school with ball his teachers. No one is using phones or being herded into the cafeteria. Aside from one cancelled bus line it has been business as usual.

+1. That's been our experience as well. If my school were chaos, switching us to virtual would make sense, but I wouldn't ask any schools that were functioning to go virtual because of our issues. Staffing is school by school and closures related to staffing should be as well. The PP who is a para sounds like they work in a school thatn should go virtual. I would support that.