LCPS sexual assualt - who is held accountable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure that when this trans discussion about bathrooms began a couple of years ago, that alternative bathrooms were offered as a solution. That was shut down as discriminatory.

Seems to me that was a common sense solution.

So four different sets of bathrooms, one for cis women, one for trans women, one for cis men, one for trans men? Yeah, that would have worked very well. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure that when this trans discussion about bathrooms began a couple of years ago, that alternative bathrooms were offered as a solution. That was shut down as discriminatory.

Seems to me that was a common sense solution.

So four different sets of bathrooms, one for cis women, one for trans women, one for cis men, one for trans men? Yeah, that would have worked very well. 🙄

Just make it a unisex bathroom and call it a day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure that when this trans discussion about bathrooms began a couple of years ago, that alternative bathrooms were offered as a solution. That was shut down as discriminatory.

Seems to me that was a common sense solution.

So four different sets of bathrooms, one for cis women, one for trans women, one for cis men, one for trans men? Yeah, that would have worked very well. 🙄

Just make it a unisex bathroom and call it a day.

So everyone in the same bathroom regardless of gender and cis/trans status? I don’t think that would satisfy the anti-trans crowd.

[Anonymous]

Unisex bathroom, girls’ bathroom. Done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure that when this trans discussion about bathrooms began a couple of years ago, that alternative bathrooms were offered as a solution. That was shut down as discriminatory.

Seems to me that was a common sense solution.

So four different sets of bathrooms, one for cis women, one for trans women, one for cis men, one for trans men? Yeah, that would have worked very well. 🙄

Just make it a unisex bathroom and call it a day.

So everyone in the same bathroom regardless of gender and cis/trans status? I don’t think that would satisfy the anti-trans crowd.

It would have to be boys, girls, safe space bathroom. Sort of like in the malls or airports. There are mens, women and family bathrooms. Family bathroom only having toilet, sink, soap water mirror. That’s it. Problem solved. Anyone feeling uncomfortable about anything can go into the safe space bathroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure that when this trans discussion about bathrooms began a couple of years ago, that alternative bathrooms were offered as a solution. That was shut down as discriminatory.

Seems to me that was a common sense solution.

So four different sets of bathrooms, one for cis women, one for trans women, one for cis men, one for trans men? Yeah, that would have worked very well. 🙄

Just make it a unisex bathroom and call it a day.

So everyone in the same bathroom regardless of gender and cis/trans status? I don’t think that would satisfy the anti-trans crowd.

It would have to be boys, girls, safe space bathroom. Sort of like in the malls or airports. There are mens, women and family bathrooms. Family bathroom only having toilet, sink, soap water mirror. That’s it. Problem solved. Anyone feeling uncomfortable about anything can go into the safe space bathroom.

+1 million

Also make the ‘safe space’ bathrooms wheelchair accessible, etc. Why is this an issue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure that when this trans discussion about bathrooms began a couple of years ago, that alternative bathrooms were offered as a solution. That was shut down as discriminatory.

Seems to me that was a common sense solution.

So four different sets of bathrooms, one for cis women, one for trans women, one for cis men, one for trans men? Yeah, that would have worked very well. 🙄

Just make it a unisex bathroom and call it a day.

So everyone in the same bathroom regardless of gender and cis/trans status? I don’t think that would satisfy the anti-trans crowd.

It would have to be boys, girls, safe space bathroom. Sort of like in the malls or airports. There are mens, women and family bathrooms. Family bathroom only having toilet, sink, soap water mirror. That’s it. Problem solved. Anyone feeling uncomfortable about anything can go into the safe space bathroom.

+1 million

Also make the ‘safe space’ bathrooms wheelchair accessible, etc. Why is this an issue?

Yes I think this is the perfect solution. I also think there should be a similar space in locker rooms so girls don't have to undress in the presence of transgirls with male anatomy. You can understand how uncomfortable that would make most girls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure that when this trans discussion about bathrooms began a couple of years ago, that alternative bathrooms were offered as a solution. That was shut down as discriminatory.

Seems to me that was a common sense solution.

So four different sets of bathrooms, one for cis women, one for trans women, one for cis men, one for trans men? Yeah, that would have worked very well. 🙄

Just make it a unisex bathroom and call it a day.

So everyone in the same bathroom regardless of gender and cis/trans status? I don’t think that would satisfy the anti-trans crowd.

It would have to be boys, girls, safe space bathroom. Sort of like in the malls or airports. There are mens, women and family bathrooms. Family bathroom only having toilet, sink, soap water mirror. That’s it. Problem solved. Anyone feeling uncomfortable about anything can go into the safe space bathroom.

+1 million

Also make the ‘safe space’ bathrooms wheelchair accessible, etc. Why is this an issue?

Yes I think this is the perfect solution. I also think there should be a similar space in locker rooms so girls don't have to undress in the presence of transgirls with male anatomy. You can understand how uncomfortable that would make most girls.

+2 million - this is the best alternative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure that when this trans discussion about bathrooms began a couple of years ago, that alternative bathrooms were offered as a solution. That was shut down as discriminatory.

Seems to me that was a common sense solution.

So four different sets of bathrooms, one for cis women, one for trans women, one for cis men, one for trans men? Yeah, that would have worked very well. 🙄

Just make it a unisex bathroom and call it a day.

So everyone in the same bathroom regardless of gender and cis/trans status? I don’t think that would satisfy the anti-trans crowd.

It would have to be boys, girls, safe space bathroom. Sort of like in the malls or airports. There are mens, women and family bathrooms. Family bathroom only having toilet, sink, soap water mirror. That’s it. Problem solved. Anyone feeling uncomfortable about anything can go into the safe space bathroom.

+1 million

Also make the ‘safe space’ bathrooms wheelchair accessible, etc. Why is this an issue?

Yes I think this is the perfect solution. I also think there should be a similar space in locker rooms so girls don't have to undress in the presence of transgirls with male anatomy. You can understand how uncomfortable that would make most girls.

+2 million - this is the best alternative.

Locker rooms should be sex specific, not gender specific. Let’s not forget they were named well before the whole “sex is different than gender” thing started. You have a penis, you go to one locker room. Vagina, the other.

[Anonymous]

I agree, but you know trans advocates will reject it as stigmatizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree, but you know trans advocates will reject it as stigmatizing.

I am fairly certain this is what happened when this issue was raised. The fact that we need to honor the fact that trans girls think they are ‘girls’ and feel the need to be allowed into the girls’ bathroom in order to feel validated.

[Anonymous]

Should we make unisex classrooms to be sure boys can't sexually assault people in the class?

I have no idea why, no matter how you feel about trans people, you all are conflating trans and opportunistic predators? Are you really that awful you would use this to make a cheap political point?

Where are you all yelling about bathrooms when boys are assaulted by other boys in unisex bathrooms, or girls by other girls? Because this happens a lot.

Or what about this case? https://13wham.com/news/local/gates-chili-student-facing-rape-criminal-sex-act-charges

No trans issue here....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should we make unisex classrooms to be sure boys can't sexually assault people in the class?

I have no idea why, no matter how you feel about trans people, you all are conflating trans and opportunistic predators? Are you really that awful you would use this to make a cheap political point?

Where are you all yelling about bathrooms when boys are assaulted by other boys in unisex bathrooms, or girls by other girls? Because this happens a lot.

Or what about this case? https://13wham.com/news/local/gates-chili-student-facing-rape-criminal-sex-act-charges

No trans issue here....

You are equating classrooms to bathrooms? Classrooms that have adult supervision with bathrooms where the kids are on their own? You don't understand the difference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should we make unisex classrooms to be sure boys can't sexually assault people in the class?

I have no idea why, no matter how you feel about trans people, you all are conflating trans and opportunistic predators? Are you really that awful you would use this to make a cheap political point?

Where are you all yelling about bathrooms when boys are assaulted by other boys in unisex bathrooms, or girls by other girls? Because this happens a lot.

Or what about this case? https://13wham.com/news/local/gates-chili-student-facing-rape-criminal-sex-act-charges

No trans issue here....

You are equating classrooms to bathrooms? Classrooms that have adult supervision with bathrooms where the kids are on their own? You don't understand the difference?

Wasn't the boy in question here accused of assaulting another girl in a classroom? I believe he was. Also, how about you address the substance of the argument?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should we make unisex classrooms to be sure boys can't sexually assault people in the class?

I have no idea why, no matter how you feel about trans people, you all are conflating trans and opportunistic predators? Are you really that awful you would use this to make a cheap political point?

Where are you all yelling about bathrooms when boys are assaulted by other boys in unisex bathrooms, or girls by other girls? Because this happens a lot.

Or what about this case? https://13wham.com/news/local/gates-chili-student-facing-rape-criminal-sex-act-charges

No trans issue here....

You are equating classrooms to bathrooms? Classrooms that have adult supervision with bathrooms where the kids are on their own? You don't understand the difference?

The other girl WAS assault in a classroom. Where was the adult supervision?