Magnet high schools

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Anonymous wrote:Folks reading this blog - there is a troll on this board that is trying to stir up a racial stereotype that "asians prep" so that's the only reason why asians are getting in to magnets, etc.

Please don't fall for it.

This person has had this theme for a while now and is a very bitter and pathetic person. Keep an eye out for this theme in other blogs and please temper your responses accordingly.

Also, there's another word for "prepping". It's called tutoring or learning. Remember that this person wants you to believe that instruction or learning outside of MCPS is wrong. That's why I believe this person is a very bitter MCPS employee or board member.

Don't fall for it. Any learning a child does out of the classroom will give that child an advantage in Life. The more parents encourage this type of appreciation for learning, the more it will rub off onto the children.

Rather than MPCS staff, I think it's actually parents who are really invested in their kids on travel teams. No time left to tutor, so they want to level the playing field.

No time or motivation. So take the devious way out. Make this about equity so that their kids can get a leg up. Divide and rule the minorities. It is a progressive game.

LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A coworker told me that no one gets in without prep. Well my kid did. From his circle of Blair friends, there was one child who was prepped. While there are families who prep, I also think people use that idea to justify why their kid did not get in. In reality it is like very competitive colleges. Lots of very talented kids just don't get in.

I don't think it is appropriate to use the cohort method for HS students since in HS there are many levels of classes available. In middle school there is much less differentiation (or none).

Maybe 25%-30% manage without prep but the majority are in classes from early on.

Several Asian cultures (Chinese, Indian) are heavily focused on education, particularly STEM. Kids have tutors and are often working 2-3 years ahead in math. Of course that's reflected in the test scores. Not necessarily a bad thing. Those families devote lots of resources to education and sometimes music lessons from a young age, and those kids do very well as a result. Why is it their problem so many white families put their resources toward athletics instead? Support starts at home.

Let me guess, you're an Asian (Chinese, Indian) yourself, amirite?

Here's the answer to your question. We, white families, don't think it is smart or beneficial to stand over our kids' shoulders with a ruler threatening to hit each time said kid turns his/hers gaze away from that Khan Academy channel. Let's be honest here, the representatives of "Asian cultures" who made it here are strivers and they don't give a crap that their children are not interested in algebra and/or piano. So this is not 'support', this is coercion often bordering on abuse.

Wow. Just, wow. Racist, much?

It’s okay to be racist towards Asians though, amirite?

No, I’m not ‘an Asian’, but thanks for playing.

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It is really shocking how many people on this board think it's okay to be racist towards Asian Americans -but jump to the defense of other minority groups and think they are so progressive and better than everyone.

NP - Anyone who is honest understands that the education systems in many Asian countries are vastly different than those in the United States. They also have to be honest about saying that many immigrants have tried to import the heavy focus on Saturday school and test prep into the US. I don't think that it is racist to point out the difference. Many posters are defending the emphasis on education in Asian communities. But some of us who live in MoCo neighborhoods with many immigrants have noted the parenting differences. I have also seen quite a few posts by Asians on DCUM who mock white people and their parenting...

Not all white families are the same...and not all Asian families are the same. Stop generalizing/otherizing.

Oh, I agree with you on that 100%. I’ll add that not all AA families are the same. Not all Latino families are the same.

Take it up with the ‘progressives’ in MCPS who are pushing EQUITY above all else. Equity over achievement. Closing the Achievement Gap is the number one priority in MCPS. Over all else.

Take it up with the people pushing to keep Asians out of the Magnet programs, again, because it’s not equitable.

Take it up with the orchestras who say we can’t hire any more Asian and White conductors.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/09/buffalo-philharmonic-no-white-or-asian-conductors-need-apply/

Look, I’m a non-White kid of immigrants. If MCPS wants to provide more support to the kids who need extra help, I support that. But, actively keeping qualified kids out of a program in the name of ‘equity’ is gross. This really shouldn’t be about race (like you say). But MCPS has made that the focus, and now, here we are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks reading this blog - there is a troll on this board that is trying to stir up a racial stereotype that "asians prep" so that's the only reason why asians are getting in to magnets, etc.

Please don't fall for it.

This person has had this theme for a while now and is a very bitter and pathetic person. Keep an eye out for this theme in other blogs and please temper your responses accordingly.

Also, there's another word for "prepping". It's called tutoring or learning. Remember that this person wants you to believe that instruction or learning outside of MCPS is wrong. That's why I believe this person is a very bitter MCPS employee or board member.

Don't fall for it. Any learning a child does out of the classroom will give that child an advantage in Life. The more parents encourage this type of appreciation for learning, the more it will rub off onto the children.

Rather than MPCS staff, I think it's actually parents who are really invested in their kids on travel teams. No time left to tutor, so they want to level the playing field.

No time or motivation. So take the devious way out. Make this about equity so that their kids can get a leg up. Divide and rule the minorities. It is a progressive game.

LOL

Too lazy to write a sentence?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/left-targets-testing-gifted-programs/619315/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks reading this blog - there is a troll on this board that is trying to stir up a racial stereotype that "asians prep" so that's the only reason why asians are getting in to magnets, etc.

Please don't fall for it.

This person has had this theme for a while now and is a very bitter and pathetic person. Keep an eye out for this theme in other blogs and please temper your responses accordingly.

Also, there's another word for "prepping". It's called tutoring or learning. Remember that this person wants you to believe that instruction or learning outside of MCPS is wrong. That's why I believe this person is a very bitter MCPS employee or board member.

Don't fall for it. Any learning a child does out of the classroom will give that child an advantage in Life. The more parents encourage this type of appreciation for learning, the more it will rub off onto the children.

Rather than MPCS staff, I think it's actually parents who are really invested in their kids on travel teams. No time left to tutor, so they want to level the playing field.

No time or motivation. So take the devious way out. Make this about equity so that their kids can get a leg up. Divide and rule the minorities. It is a progressive game.

LOL

Too lazy to write a sentence?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/left-targets-testing-gifted-programs/619315/

So how much do the Koch's pay you to post this nonsense? The kids we've been talking about are hardly gifted. Sure, a few present as slightly above average after spending tens of thousands on prep but does that really matter?

Basically, you feel that wealthy people should be able to buy spots in these programs and those who aren't as fortunate should be denied equal access to these programs.

We get it.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, some of us worked hard to make sure we can provide for our kids. What's wrong with that? Isn't that your job as a parent? Your inability to provide is no one's fault except you.

Well, the problem is that a seat at a publicly funded magnet program is not a reward for good parenting, nor for your hard work. It is meant to provide opportunities for kids who would not have those opportunities at their home school (hence the 'magnet' part).

If you are a good parent, a good earner, good for you! But that's not what this is about.

Actually, publicly funded magnet programs were created NOT to provide academic opportunities, but to provide desirable programs that would lure people of other races to a basically segregated school. Why do you think the new downcounty IB program is at Kennedy?

That program was in the works in 2010-2012. It’s only “new” to an outsider.

It's new in terms of its status as a magnet program. Get over yourself.

Not sure what you're talking about, but according to Wikipedia Blair SMCS opened in 1985 almost 40 years ago.

Yes, that PP is just downright ignorant. These programs have been around for decades and their purpose has changes as have these areas over that time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is an MCPS kid who did well in SAT...no enrichment except the free collegeboard exams (8 official ones) and Khan academy. This is the resource that is available to all students around the world. Every kid has the same 24 hours in their day. Some study and some don't.

Of course there are other privileges that my kid has - comes from a functional household, eats home-cooked meals, was not left to CIO as a baby, has the COVID and flu vaccination, does not mind wearing a mask, no abuse/addiction/adultry in the household and most importantly he has caring adults in his life who give a damn. Very hard for MCPS to replicate all that. The inequity is immense. The achievement gap is wider than the Grand Canyon.

Can't really legislate other people's lives, but at least we can see that those gifted children from less affluent areas get a fair shot at these programs too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is an MCPS kid who did well in SAT...no enrichment except the free collegeboard exams (8 official ones) and Khan academy. This is the resource that is available to all students around the world. Every kid has the same 24 hours in their day. Some study and some don't.

Of course there are other privileges that my kid has - comes from a functional household, eats home-cooked meals, was not left to CIO as a baby, has the COVID and flu vaccination, does not mind wearing a mask, no abuse/addiction/adultry in the household and most importantly he has caring adults in his life who give a damn. Very hard for MCPS to replicate all that. The inequity is immense. The achievement gap is wider than the Grand Canyon.

Can't really legislate other people's lives, but at least we can see that those gifted children from less affluent areas get a fair shot at these programs too.

And that is exactly what MCPS and Montgomery County have been doing for at least a decade.

My kids are at a Title 1 school and I see the resources that we put into lower income families. We feed kids free breakfast and lunch (and now dinner, but that is due to Covid). The kids get free healthcare. Free tutoring services. Saturday School is an option, for those who are interested. We supply free school supplies and free backpacks. Free Chromebooks and Wi-Fi for the kids to use. Vouchers for aftercare, if needed. And scholarships for kids to participate in any after school activities they need money for.

It’s actually pretty impressive how much this County does for our kids.

Apparently, it’s still not enough, because the Achievement Gap continues to widen.

Isn’t it worth examining why that is? What exactly is still missing?

Instead, MCPS has decided to just throw some more ‘underserved’ kids into the Magnet Programs and can now highlight that in its press releases as a ‘success’.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks reading this blog - there is a troll on this board that is trying to stir up a racial stereotype that "asians prep" so that's the only reason why asians are getting in to magnets, etc.

Please don't fall for it.

This person has had this theme for a while now and is a very bitter and pathetic person. Keep an eye out for this theme in other blogs and please temper your responses accordingly.

Also, there's another word for "prepping". It's called tutoring or learning. Remember that this person wants you to believe that instruction or learning outside of MCPS is wrong. That's why I believe this person is a very bitter MCPS employee or board member.

Don't fall for it. Any learning a child does out of the classroom will give that child an advantage in Life. The more parents encourage this type of appreciation for learning, the more it will rub off onto the children.

Rather than MPCS staff, I think it's actually parents who are really invested in their kids on travel teams. No time left to tutor, so they want to level the playing field.

No time or motivation. So take the devious way out. Make this about equity so that their kids can get a leg up. Divide and rule the minorities. It is a progressive game.

LOL

Too lazy to write a sentence?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/left-targets-testing-gifted-programs/619315/

So how much do the Koch's pay you to post this nonsense? The kids we've been talking about are hardly gifted. Sure, a few present as slightly above average after spending tens of thousands on prep but does that really matter?

Basically, you feel that wealthy people should be able to buy spots in these programs and those who aren't as fortunate should be denied equal access to these programs.

We get it.

Atlantic is hardly a right wing publication. Read the article. You may actually get a broader perspective instead of just spouting some out of context talking points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks reading this blog - there is a troll on this board that is trying to stir up a racial stereotype that "asians prep" so that's the only reason why asians are getting in to magnets, etc.

Please don't fall for it.

This person has had this theme for a while now and is a very bitter and pathetic person. Keep an eye out for this theme in other blogs and please temper your responses accordingly.

Also, there's another word for "prepping". It's called tutoring or learning. Remember that this person wants you to believe that instruction or learning outside of MCPS is wrong. That's why I believe this person is a very bitter MCPS employee or board member.

Don't fall for it. Any learning a child does out of the classroom will give that child an advantage in Life. The more parents encourage this type of appreciation for learning, the more it will rub off onto the children.

Rather than MPCS staff, I think it's actually parents who are really invested in their kids on travel teams. No time left to tutor, so they want to level the playing field.

No time or motivation. So take the devious way out. Make this about equity so that their kids can get a leg up. Divide and rule the minorities. It is a progressive game.

LOL

Too lazy to write a sentence?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/left-targets-testing-gifted-programs/619315/

So how much do the Koch's pay you to post this nonsense? The kids we've been talking about are hardly gifted. Sure, a few present as slightly above average after spending tens of thousands on prep but does that really matter?

Basically, you feel that wealthy people should be able to buy spots in these programs and those who aren't as fortunate should be denied equal access to these programs.

We get it.

What are you talking about? You are saying that Blair and RMIB have been taking in "slightly above average" intellects all of these years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, some of us worked hard to make sure we can provide for our kids. What's wrong with that? Isn't that your job as a parent? Your inability to provide is no one's fault except you.

Well, the problem is that a seat at a publicly funded magnet program is not a reward for good parenting, nor for your hard work. It is meant to provide opportunities for kids who would not have those opportunities at their home school (hence the 'magnet' part).

If you are a good parent, a good earner, good for you! But that's not what this is about.

Actually, publicly funded magnet programs were created NOT to provide academic opportunities, but to provide desirable programs that would lure people of other races to a basically segregated school. Why do you think the new downcounty IB program is at Kennedy?

That program was in the works in 2010-2012. It’s only “new” to an outsider.

It's new in terms of its status as a magnet program. Get over yourself.

Not sure what you're talking about, but according to Wikipedia Blair SMCS opened in 1985 almost 40 years ago.

Yes, that PP is just downright ignorant. These programs have been around for decades and their purpose has changes as have these areas over that time.

Um, no. Kennedy High School - 2019/2020 = 5.3% white/6.8% Asian. The IB program was absolutely made a magnet there to attract these students. It is interesting that anything that might put a tiny crack in your defenses causes you to lash out with emotion, rather than using facts.

And yes, Blair is a longstanding magnet, also put in place 40 years ago as a way to draw whites. Are you arguing that the purpose of the magnet has changed since then? Make your case, using actual information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is an MCPS kid who did well in SAT...no enrichment except the free collegeboard exams (8 official ones) and Khan academy. This is the resource that is available to all students around the world. Every kid has the same 24 hours in their day. Some study and some don't.

Of course there are other privileges that my kid has - comes from a functional household, eats home-cooked meals, was not left to CIO as a baby, has the COVID and flu vaccination, does not mind wearing a mask, no abuse/addiction/adultry in the household and most importantly he has caring adults in his life who give a damn. Very hard for MCPS to replicate all that. The inequity is immense. The achievement gap is wider than the Grand Canyon.

Can't really legislate other people's lives, but at least we can see that those gifted children from less affluent areas get a fair shot at these programs too.

And that is exactly what MCPS and Montgomery County have been doing for at least a decade.

My kids are at a Title 1 school and I see the resources that we put into lower income families. We feed kids free breakfast and lunch (and now dinner, but that is due to Covid). The kids get free healthcare. Free tutoring services. Saturday School is an option, for those who are interested. We supply free school supplies and free backpacks. Free Chromebooks and Wi-Fi for the kids to use. Vouchers for aftercare, if needed. And scholarships for kids to participate in any after school activities they need money for.

It’s actually pretty impressive how much this County does for our kids.

Apparently, it’s still not enough, because the Achievement Gap continues to widen.

Isn’t it worth examining why that is? What exactly is still missing?

Instead, MCPS has decided to just throw some more ‘underserved’ kids into the Magnet Programs and can now highlight that in its press releases as a ‘success’.

Demonizing Asians is way easier that measuring, evaluating and solving achievement gap problems.

[Anonymous]

Asia is a really big continent. So weird that their cultures are all identical!




(They aren't.

However, the more common denominator is class. Immigrants may arrive here in the US poor, many do, but most of the ones who come here from Asia are already privileged. We aren't getting a bunch of farmers with a third-grade education. Not from Asia.

[Anonymous]

There is also, btw, nothing wrong with being a farmer with a third grade education. Quite a large chunk of my family, here in North America since the 1600s would qualify as such.

But it's class.

So many people are desperately insecure about their status in this county. I've never lived anywhere in the states quite like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks reading this blog - there is a troll on this board that is trying to stir up a racial stereotype that "asians prep" so that's the only reason why asians are getting in to magnets, etc.

Please don't fall for it.

This person has had this theme for a while now and is a very bitter and pathetic person. Keep an eye out for this theme in other blogs and please temper your responses accordingly.

Also, there's another word for "prepping". It's called tutoring or learning. Remember that this person wants you to believe that instruction or learning outside of MCPS is wrong. That's why I believe this person is a very bitter MCPS employee or board member.

Don't fall for it. Any learning a child does out of the classroom will give that child an advantage in Life. The more parents encourage this type of appreciation for learning, the more it will rub off onto the children.

Rather than MPCS staff, I think it's actually parents who are really invested in their kids on travel teams. No time left to tutor, so they want to level the playing field.

No time or motivation. So take the devious way out. Make this about equity so that their kids can get a leg up. Divide and rule the minorities. It is a progressive game.

LOL

Too lazy to write a sentence?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/left-targets-testing-gifted-programs/619315/

So how much do the Koch's pay you to post this nonsense? The kids we've been talking about are hardly gifted. Sure, a few present as slightly above average after spending tens of thousands on prep but does that really matter?

Basically, you feel that wealthy people should be able to buy spots in these programs and those who aren't as fortunate should be denied equal access to these programs.

We get it.

Atlantic is hardly a right wing publication. Read the article. You may actually get a broader perspective instead of just spouting some out of context talking points.

Exactly. How woke do you have to be to call The Atlantic right wing? It's like calling MSNBC right wing. Insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is an MCPS kid who did well in SAT...no enrichment except the free collegeboard exams (8 official ones) and Khan academy. This is the resource that is available to all students around the world. Every kid has the same 24 hours in their day. Some study and some don't.

Of course there are other privileges that my kid has - comes from a functional household, eats home-cooked meals, was not left to CIO as a baby, has the COVID and flu vaccination, does not mind wearing a mask, no abuse/addiction/adultry in the household and most importantly he has caring adults in his life who give a damn. Very hard for MCPS to replicate all that. The inequity is immense. The achievement gap is wider than the Grand Canyon.

Can't really legislate other people's lives, but at least we can see that those gifted children from less affluent areas get a fair shot at these programs too.

Can't really legislate other people's lives, but at least we can see that those black and brown children from less affluent areas get to attend these programs too, regardless of ability.

FTFY.