Magnet high schools

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Middle school magnet is now a lottery for coming year too - as per just published MCPS guidelines. I suspect high school is going that way too. The Asian purge is on.



People chase the magnets for their atypical demographics / peer groups claiming to be dying for enrichment. If they rig the selection criteria to reflect typical demographics I suspect we will see the effect accelerate that magnet programs were designed to suppress which is middle class flight form poor schools. Without prestige magnets the entire DCC would be in trouble


Oh, this will 100% lead to middle class families leaving the county. No doubt.

Wealthy families can stay put and pay for private. The lower-income families will likely stay. Without a strong middle-class, the county will flounder. You can’t support a school system by attracting ONLY lower-income families. Sad, but true. We have seen it in so many urban school districts in the US.


Get ready for home prices to fall in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. And go up further in W school catchment areas. Bethesda, Potomac.


Mixed area always feel downtowns disproportionately, that said they go up more as area rush towards the area’s price tolerance point as they have more room to grow. Lots of houses in this area cost what 2 highend GS can afford. The variable is what you get for that price and who you have to live next to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle school magnet is now a lottery for coming year too - as per just published MCPS guidelines. I suspect high school is going that way too. The Asian purge is on.



People chase the magnets for their atypical demographics / peer groups claiming to be dying for enrichment. If they rig the selection criteria to reflect typical demographics I suspect we will see the effect accelerate that magnet programs were designed to suppress which is middle class flight form poor schools. Without prestige magnets the entire DCC would be in trouble


Oh, this will 100% lead to middle class families leaving the county. No doubt.

Wealthy families can stay put and pay for private. The lower-income families will likely stay. Without a strong middle-class, the county will flounder. You can’t support a school system by attracting ONLY lower-income families. Sad, but true. We have seen it in so many urban school districts in the US.


Get ready for home prices to fall in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. And go up further in W school catchment areas. Bethesda, Potomac.


Mixed area always feel downtowns disproportionately, that said they go up more as area rush towards the area’s price tolerance point as they have more room to grow. Lots of houses in this area cost what 2 highend GS can afford. The variable is what you get for that price and who you have to live next to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle school magnet is now a lottery for coming year too - as per just published MCPS guidelines. I suspect high school is going that way too. The Asian purge is on.



People chase the magnets for their atypical demographics / peer groups claiming to be dying for enrichment. If they rig the selection criteria to reflect typical demographics I suspect we will see the effect accelerate that magnet programs were designed to suppress which is middle class flight form poor schools. Without prestige magnets the entire DCC would be in trouble


Oh, this will 100% lead to middle class families leaving the county. No doubt.

Wealthy families can stay put and pay for private. The lower-income families will likely stay. Without a strong middle-class, the county will flounder. You can’t support a school system by attracting ONLY lower-income families. Sad, but true. We have seen it in so many urban school districts in the US.


Get ready for home prices to fall in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. And go up further in W school catchment areas. Bethesda, Potomac.


Mixed area always feel downtowns disproportionately, that said they go up more as area rush towards the area’s price tolerance point as they have more room to grow. Lots of houses in this area cost what 2 highend GS can afford. The variable is what you get for that price and who you have to live next to.


Sorry. I truly don't understand what you said.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle school magnet is now a lottery for coming year too - as per just published MCPS guidelines. I suspect high school is going that way too. The Asian purge is on.



People chase the magnets for their atypical demographics / peer groups claiming to be dying for enrichment. If they rig the selection criteria to reflect typical demographics I suspect we will see the effect accelerate that magnet programs were designed to suppress which is middle class flight form poor schools. Without prestige magnets the entire DCC would be in trouble


Oh, this will 100% lead to middle class families leaving the county. No doubt.

Wealthy families can stay put and pay for private. The lower-income families will likely stay. Without a strong middle-class, the county will flounder. You can’t support a school system by attracting ONLY lower-income families. Sad, but true. We have seen it in so many urban school districts in the US.


Get ready for home prices to fall in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. And go up further in W school catchment areas. Bethesda, Potomac.


With the threat of boundary changes looming, I think even Bethesda and Potomac will see decreases. Plus with the rezoning (Thrive) that will get pushed through. That will lead to overdevelopment all over the county.

The leadership in Montgomery County and the leadership in MCPS has very clear priorities. They have been abundantly vocal about the progressive direction they want this county to continue in.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle school magnet is now a lottery for coming year too - as per just published MCPS guidelines. I suspect high school is going that way too. The Asian purge is on.



People chase the magnets for their atypical demographics / peer groups claiming to be dying for enrichment. If they rig the selection criteria to reflect typical demographics I suspect we will see the effect accelerate that magnet programs were designed to suppress which is middle class flight form poor schools. Without prestige magnets the entire DCC would be in trouble


Oh, this will 100% lead to middle class families leaving the county. No doubt.

Wealthy families can stay put and pay for private. The lower-income families will likely stay. Without a strong middle-class, the county will flounder. You can’t support a school system by attracting ONLY lower-income families. Sad, but true. We have seen it in so many urban school districts in the US.


Get ready for home prices to fall in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. And go up further in W school catchment areas. Bethesda, Potomac.


With the threat of boundary changes looming, I think even Bethesda and Potomac will see decreases. Plus with the rezoning (Thrive) that will get pushed through. That will lead to overdevelopment all over the county.

The leadership in Montgomery County and the leadership in MCPS has very clear priorities. They have been abundantly vocal about the progressive direction they want this county to continue in.



His is destructive progressive going to help folks in Montgomery county?
Anonymous
NP here, can we return to the OP original question. Are high school criteria-based magnets based on cohorts (like
they use to have for magnet middle school) or not?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle school magnet is now a lottery for coming year too - as per just published MCPS guidelines. I suspect high school is going that way too. The Asian purge is on.



People chase the magnets for their atypical demographics / peer groups claiming to be dying for enrichment. If they rig the selection criteria to reflect typical demographics I suspect we will see the effect accelerate that magnet programs were designed to suppress which is middle class flight form poor schools. Without prestige magnets the entire DCC would be in trouble


Oh, this will 100% lead to middle class families leaving the county. No doubt.

Wealthy families can stay put and pay for private. The lower-income families will likely stay. Without a strong middle-class, the county will flounder. You can’t support a school system by attracting ONLY lower-income families. Sad, but true. We have seen it in so many urban school districts in the US.


Get ready for home prices to fall in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. And go up further in W school catchment areas. Bethesda, Potomac.


Mixed area always feel downtowns disproportionately, that said they go up more as area rush towards the area’s price tolerance point as they have more room to grow. Lots of houses in this area cost what 2 highend GS can afford. The variable is what you get for that price and who you have to live next to.


Ya have to agree the PP fails to grasp that the 1980s were over decades ago. Nobody cares about the W's. The same exact education or better can be had at MCPS school. Once people realize that these bulk test averages are a smoke screen for their mediocrity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NP here, can we return to the OP original question. Are high school criteria-based magnets based on cohorts (like
they use to have for magnet middle school) or not?


They never have been and they haven't said they will use this criteriaea So the answer is currently NO; however, personally I think they make perfect sense and yield a stronger and more equitable distribution. The evidence from the MS suggests it had virtually no negative impact on cohort quality and from what I could tell they were able to even improve on it in the second year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here, can we return to the OP original question. Are high school criteria-based magnets based on cohorts (like
they use to have for magnet middle school) or not?


They never have been and they haven't said they will use this criteriaea So the answer is currently NO; however, personally I think they make perfect sense and yield a stronger and more equitable distribution. The evidence from the MS suggests it had virtually no negative impact on cohort quality and from what I could tell they were able to even improve on it in the second year.



What exactly is this evidence you cite? Be specific.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here, can we return to the OP original question. Are high school criteria-based magnets based on cohorts (like
they use to have for magnet middle school) or not?


They never have been and they haven't said they will use this criteriaea So the answer is currently NO; however, personally I think they make perfect sense and yield a stronger and more equitable distribution. The evidence from the MS suggests it had virtually no negative impact on cohort quality and from what I could tell they were able to even improve on it in the second year.



What exactly is this evidence you cite? Be specific.


After having read hundreds of posts on this subject from this board it should be clear to everyone. Sure, the proponents of the old system tried hard to disprove it in order to cling to their privilege but they failed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here, can we return to the OP original question. Are high school criteria-based magnets based on cohorts (like
they use to have for magnet middle school) or not?


They never have been and they haven't said they will use this criteriaea So the answer is currently NO; however, personally I think they make perfect sense and yield a stronger and more equitable distribution. The evidence from the MS suggests it had virtually no negative impact on cohort quality and from what I could tell they were able to even improve on it in the second year.



What exactly is this evidence you cite? Be specific.


After having read hundreds of posts on this subject from this board it should be clear to everyone. Sure, the proponents of the old system tried hard to disprove it in order to cling to their privilege but they failed.



So no evidence, gotcha.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here, can we return to the OP original question. Are high school criteria-based magnets based on cohorts (like
they use to have for magnet middle school) or not?


They never have been and they haven't said they will use this criteriaea So the answer is currently NO; however, personally I think they make perfect sense and yield a stronger and more equitable distribution. The evidence from the MS suggests it had virtually no negative impact on cohort quality and from what I could tell they were able to even improve on it in the second year.



What exactly is this evidence you cite? Be specific.


After having read hundreds of posts on this subject from this board it should be clear to everyone. Sure, the proponents of the old system tried hard to disprove it in order to cling to their privilege but they failed.


Ya, it's obvious to anyone who cares. The rest are just in denial and will say anything to hold on to their privelge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here, can we return to the OP original question. Are high school criteria-based magnets based on cohorts (like
they use to have for magnet middle school) or not?


They never have been and they haven't said they will use this criteriaea So the answer is currently NO; however, personally I think they make perfect sense and yield a stronger and more equitable distribution. The evidence from the MS suggests it had virtually no negative impact on cohort quality and from what I could tell they were able to even improve on it in the second year.



What exactly is this evidence you cite? Be specific.


After having read hundreds of posts on this subject from this board it should be clear to everyone. Sure, the proponents of the old system tried hard to disprove it in order to cling to their privilege but they failed.


Ya, it's obvious to anyone who cares. The rest are just in denial and will say anything to hold on to their privelge.


It's true the new criteria resulted in a stronger cohort since it replaced 2nd tier preppers with the more naturally gifted students from the lower SES schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP here, can we return to the OP original question. Are high school criteria-based magnets based on cohorts (like
they use to have for magnet middle school) or not?


They never have been and they haven't said they will use this criteriaea So the answer is currently NO; however, personally I think they make perfect sense and yield a stronger and more equitable distribution. The evidence from the MS suggests it had virtually no negative impact on cohort quality and from what I could tell they were able to even improve on it in the second year.



What exactly is this evidence you cite? Be specific.


After having read hundreds of posts on this subject from this board it should be clear to everyone. Sure, the proponents of the old system tried hard to disprove it in order to cling to their privilege but they failed.


Ya, it's obvious to anyone who cares. The rest are just in denial and will say anything to hold on to their privelge.


It's true the new criteria resulted in a stronger cohort since it replaced 2nd tier preppers with the more naturally gifted students from the lower SES schools.

Where are you getting this idea that the new students are naturally more gifted? They've scored in the average range. It takes a huge leap of faith to assume that they are gifted based on that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Middle school magnet is now a lottery for coming year too - as per just published MCPS guidelines. I suspect high school is going that way too. The Asian purge is on.



People chase the magnets for their atypical demographics / peer groups claiming to be dying for enrichment. If they rig the selection criteria to reflect typical demographics I suspect we will see the effect accelerate that magnet programs were designed to suppress which is middle class flight form poor schools. Without prestige magnets the entire DCC would be in trouble


Oh, this will 100% lead to middle class families leaving the county. No doubt.

Wealthy families can stay put and pay for private. The lower-income families will likely stay. Without a strong middle-class, the county will flounder. You can’t support a school system by attracting ONLY lower-income families. Sad, but true. We have seen it in so many urban school districts in the US.


Get ready for home prices to fall in Silver Spring and Takoma Park. And go up further in W school catchment areas. Bethesda, Potomac.


Mixed area always feel downtowns disproportionately, that said they go up more as area rush towards the area’s price tolerance point as they have more room to grow. Lots of houses in this area cost what 2 highend GS can afford. The variable is what you get for that price and who you have to live next to.


Ya have to agree the PP fails to grasp that the 1980s were over decades ago. Nobody cares about the W's. The same exact education or better can be had at MCPS school. Once people realize that these bulk test averages are a smoke screen for their mediocrity.

Poor attendance and graduation rates at least desirable schools and the pro-busing push a few years ago say you're wrong.
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