Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

Because many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad.

This is absolutely ridiculous and bigoted. Dislike them all you want but this post isn't okay. And fwiw Blake Lively's ex, Penn Badgley, is also Baháʼi. So is Rainn Wilson. Two of the nicest people in Hollywood.

But calling Blake a slut and whore and whatever was ok? Give me a break.

Calling her names is certainly not okay (not sure what about my post indicated I would think it is?), but what does this have to do with your bigoted post?

Exactly what was bigoted? Baldoni's own PR rep told him to not talk about it. Why would that be?

Quotes: "I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. " "many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad"

Yes? So what? 3 men are accused of acting badly and curiously they have some things in common. Do you have a point?

You are being purposefully obtuse here if you don't see how problematic it is to focus on religion here rather than whatever behavior you want to talk about.

I'll be problematic then. Better than being part of a cult that is expressly against sexism while being raging sexists.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

Because many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad.

This is absolutely ridiculous and bigoted. Dislike them all you want but this post isn't okay. And fwiw Blake Lively's ex, Penn Badgley, is also Baháʼi. So is Rainn Wilson. Two of the nicest people in Hollywood.

But calling Blake a slut and whore and whatever was ok? Give me a break.

Calling her names is certainly not okay (not sure what about my post indicated I would think it is?), but what does this have to do with your bigoted post?

Exactly what was bigoted? Baldoni's own PR rep told him to not talk about it. Why would that be?

Quotes: "I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. " "many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad"

Yes? So what? 3 men are accused of acting badly and curiously they have some things in common. Do you have a point?

You are being purposefully obtuse here if you don't see how problematic it is to focus on religion here rather than whatever behavior you want to talk about.

I'll be problematic then. Better than being part of a cult that is expressly against sexism while being raging sexists.

+1 It brings up the question if they're using the religion has an excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

It’s more akin to a cult, for one.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

Because many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad.

This is absolutely ridiculous and bigoted. Dislike them all you want but this post isn't okay. And fwiw Blake Lively's ex, Penn Badgley, is also Baháʼi. So is Rainn Wilson. Two of the nicest people in Hollywood.

But calling Blake a slut and whore and whatever was ok? Give me a break.

Calling her names is certainly not okay (not sure what about my post indicated I would think it is?), but what does this have to do with your bigoted post?

Exactly what was bigoted? Baldoni's own PR rep told him to not talk about it. Why would that be?

Quotes: "I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. " "many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad"

Yes? So what? 3 men are accused of acting badly and curiously they have some things in common. Do you have a point?

You are being purposefully obtuse here if you don't see how problematic it is to focus on religion here rather than whatever behavior you want to talk about.

I'll be problematic then. Better than being part of a cult that is expressly against sexism while being raging sexists.

+1 It brings up the question if they're using the religion has an excuse.

I literally never saw Baldoni do that - did you see that?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

It’s more akin to a cult, for one.

j

When it becomes increasingly clear you don’t have facts on your side, change the topic. Yea, we noticed.

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Anonymous wrote:I see this thread has contributed nicely to the planned smear campaign let loose on her. You all , or most, bought in, and pretty quickly. Tsk tsk tsk.

Now- clearly we all understand how Trump got elected, right?

So Blake has to be handled like a fragile glass doll but she and her "team" can plant stories about Badoni. Do you not realize that she is doing the same thing she accuses Baldoni of? But I guess she and Ruan are just so special and gifted, so the rules are "different" for them than everyone else?

That attitude, plus their weird try hard self promotion, is why people are sick of both of them...

If you’re so sick of them find a new hobby. You’re way too worked up over people who have no bearing on your life.

OK. Please tell me why it's okay for Blake Lively to engage in a media campaign against Baldoni but he is not allowed to have a media campaign about his case. That attitude is extremely hypocritical.

Because it's illegal as retaliation for sexual harassment when he agreed not to do it. And then he did per the PR text exchanges. Look at where she filed her complaint. She didn't sue him until he tried to sue her.

Media articles are illegal retaliation? What if the purpose of the articles is to publicize his view rather than to retalliate?

So you admit he was doing it but want to quibble over the reasons?

Ok. You are the one who claimed the articles are illegal retaliation for a sexual harrassment complaint. My question is whether they are illegal if the main purpose was to publicize his case.

What case does he have? She filed a complaint with the California Civil Rights Department because of the retaliation. She didn't go after him personally until he sued her. It matters not at all if you personally like them or find them sexy or smug.

I don't know whether he has a case or not. That is for the jury to decide after hearing the evidence.

I thought he sued the New York Times, not BL. Are you saying that he is not allowed to talk about his lawsuit against NYT but Blake can continue to publicize her case? It's a strange double standard that only one of them has to stay quiet.

How has she publicized her case? Neither of them are talking directly they are all talking through lawyers. Not sure what you're even talking about here.

She's wise. If he wants to sue her for defamation, it will be nearly impossible to do so if she's only speaking through court pleadings and filings. She's smart to avoid talking about this directly. I haven't seen in her anything except an episode or two of Gossip Girl, and know little about her, but I respect how she's been handling this. She tried to make complaints to HR, used the strike to get Baldoni and Wayfarer to agree to better working conditions and get the signed rider, and when the bad press started rolling in, stayed calm and laid the foundation for her civil complaint and lawsuit. This is what a serious professional person does.

A serious professional doesn’t arrange a meeting in her apartment so her very powerful husband can scream at the director of a film he’s not attached to.

There’s clearly more to the story than what the NTY portrayed.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

It’s more akin to a cult, for one.

how so?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

Because many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad.

This is absolutely ridiculous and bigoted. Dislike them all you want but this post isn't okay. And fwiw Blake Lively's ex, Penn Badgley, is also Baháʼi. So is Rainn Wilson. Two of the nicest people in Hollywood.

But calling Blake a slut and whore and whatever was ok? Give me a break.

Calling her names is certainly not okay (not sure what about my post indicated I would think it is?), but what does this have to do with your bigoted post?

Exactly what was bigoted? Baldoni's own PR rep told him to not talk about it. Why would that be?

Quotes: "I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. " "many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad"

Yes? So what? 3 men are accused of acting badly and curiously they have some things in common. Do you have a point?

You are being purposefully obtuse here if you don't see how problematic it is to focus on religion here rather than whatever behavior you want to talk about.

I'll be problematic then. Better than being part of a cult that is expressly against sexism while being raging sexists.

+1 It brings up the question if they're using the religion has an excuse.

Wtf? This is getting weird and unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

Because many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad.

This is absolutely ridiculous and bigoted. Dislike them all you want but this post isn't okay. And fwiw Blake Lively's ex, Penn Badgley, is also Baháʼi. So is Rainn Wilson. Two of the nicest people in Hollywood.

But calling Blake a slut and whore and whatever was ok? Give me a break.

Calling her names is certainly not okay (not sure what about my post indicated I would think it is?), but what does this have to do with your bigoted post?

Exactly what was bigoted? Baldoni's own PR rep told him to not talk about it. Why would that be?

Quotes: "I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. " "many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad"

Yes? So what? 3 men are accused of acting badly and curiously they have some things in common. Do you have a point?

You are being purposefully obtuse here if you don't see how problematic it is to focus on religion here rather than whatever behavior you want to talk about.

I'll be problematic then. Better than being part of a cult that is expressly against sexism while being raging sexists.

+1 It brings up the question if they're using the religion has an excuse.

True. This is a wild read about Baldoni.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/71b7b93c-6dd1-468a-a3fd-e2e81f951df9?shareToken=81b3d66ecc01670b3e97d28db0032710

The cult has very extreme views on sex, in marriage only, yet he started watching porn heavily in elementary school. Both of those things have surely impacted his views of sex and women. His ADHD makes him a dopamine seeker so his porn addiction is not surprising, but it may be more complex. Those with ADHD often seek dopamine from conflict, too.

Also of note is Baldoni using the presence of his wife on set as an excuse for harassment, and the involvement of the billionaire’s wife with Wayfair.

The B’hai piece warrants further examination.

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The cult has very extreme views on sex, in marriage only,

That's not extreme, and it's laughable to believe he follows that.

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https://thebahaiinsider.com/2012/08/13/why-the-bahai-faith-is-a-cult/

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The cult has very extreme views on sex, in marriage only,

That's not extreme, and it's laughable to believe he follows that.

I guess he gets by with his massive porn addiction.

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Anonymous wrote:I see this thread has contributed nicely to the planned smear campaign let loose on her. You all , or most, bought in, and pretty quickly. Tsk tsk tsk.

Now- clearly we all understand how Trump got elected, right?

So Blake has to be handled like a fragile glass doll but she and her "team" can plant stories about Badoni. Do you not realize that she is doing the same thing she accuses Baldoni of? But I guess she and Ruan are just so special and gifted, so the rules are "different" for them than everyone else?

That attitude, plus their weird try hard self promotion, is why people are sick of both of them...

If you’re so sick of them find a new hobby. You’re way too worked up over people who have no bearing on your life.

OK. Please tell me why it's okay for Blake Lively to engage in a media campaign against Baldoni but he is not allowed to have a media campaign about his case. That attitude is extremely hypocritical.

Because it's illegal as retaliation for sexual harassment when he agreed not to do it. And then he did per the PR text exchanges. Look at where she filed her complaint. She didn't sue him until he tried to sue her.

Media articles are illegal retaliation? What if the purpose of the articles is to publicize his view rather than to retalliate?

So you admit he was doing it but want to quibble over the reasons?

Ok. You are the one who claimed the articles are illegal retaliation for a sexual harrassment complaint. My question is whether they are illegal if the main purpose was to publicize his case.

What case does he have? She filed a complaint with the California Civil Rights Department because of the retaliation. She didn't go after him personally until he sued her. It matters not at all if you personally like them or find them sexy or smug.

I don't know whether he has a case or not. That is for the jury to decide after hearing the evidence.

I thought he sued the New York Times, not BL. Are you saying that he is not allowed to talk about his lawsuit against NYT but Blake can continue to publicize her case? It's a strange double standard that only one of them has to stay quiet.

How has she publicized her case? Neither of them are talking directly they are all talking through lawyers. Not sure what you're even talking about here.

She's wise. If he wants to sue her for defamation, it will be nearly impossible to do so if she's only speaking through court pleadings and filings. She's smart to avoid talking about this directly. I haven't seen in her anything except an episode or two of Gossip Girl, and know little about her, but I respect how she's been handling this. She tried to make complaints to HR, used the strike to get Baldoni and Wayfarer to agree to better working conditions and get the signed rider, and when the bad press started rolling in, stayed calm and laid the foundation for her civil complaint and lawsuit. This is what a serious professional person does.

A serious professional doesn’t arrange a meeting in her apartment so her very powerful husband can scream at the director of a film he’s not attached to.

There’s clearly more to the story than what the NTY portrayed.

I don't care if he screamed at him when he kept harassing his wife and asking how much she weighs. Good husbands stand up for their wives.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m beginning to get a clearer picture of what is happening. There’s no question that Blake and Justin had a pretty decent relationship at one time. They followed each other on social media and they bantered as well. Shortly before filming started when Blake was pregnant Justin had posted something about his workout and she was like “impressive but try that when you’re eight months pregnant” or something along those lines. they were goofing around with each other.

Clearly on set, they must’ve had a good relationship at one time if she was inviting him to run lines while she was pumping and sending silly texts signing them x etc. Now that clearly is not an invitation to do more and I’m not at all saying that she did not have other unwelcome moments on set, but at one point, they clearly got along, and she felt comfortable with him.

It seems like what may have happened is that there were disagreements on set, and Ryan Reynolds got involved and I think that’s when things started to fall apart. It is so strange how involved he was in a movie he was never formally attached to, having the final editing cut, having a formal meeting with Sony and the production company in his apartment, where he screamed at Justin, which sounded totally off the rails BTW doing so much to promote the film as well as writing scenes.

I wonder if when he was jealous or felt threatened by Justin. He strikes me is very controlling. It just seems like people got too comfortable and professional lines were crossed and then Blake and Ryan took advantage of that when they wanted to get their way.

I don’t know if he will be successful in the suit but it absolutely seems that the New York Times article left out key context in their relationship and Blake’s side in this, not to mention, Ryan Reynolds harassing behavior of his own.

Good analysis

it’s possibly the Heath guy is the sketchy one. The only allegation in the complaint that seemed legit to me was him ogling her in the trailer. I wonder if in Hollywood it’s normal to be a bit casual about changing in front of others, but he pushed the boundary.

Is this Heath's first involvement in a Hollywood project? I think they're both creepy but Justin may know when to pull back

I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. Steve has the deep pockets and apparently is doing whatever he can, by any means necessary, to protect Wayfarer, and got caught redhanded playing dirty with the PR nonsense.

what does their religion have to do with it?

Because many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad.

This is absolutely ridiculous and bigoted. Dislike them all you want but this post isn't okay. And fwiw Blake Lively's ex, Penn Badgley, is also Baháʼi. So is Rainn Wilson. Two of the nicest people in Hollywood.

But calling Blake a slut and whore and whatever was ok? Give me a break.

Calling her names is certainly not okay (not sure what about my post indicated I would think it is?), but what does this have to do with your bigoted post?

Exactly what was bigoted? Baldoni's own PR rep told him to not talk about it. Why would that be?

Quotes: "I think Heath, Sarowitz and Baldoni were all being sketchy. The 3 of them are all Baha'i and part of Wayfarer. " "many regard it as a cult and you have these 3 guys who are all part of ,or own Wayfarer, all over everything on set all the time, harassing the cast and crew, and it starts to smell real bad"

Yes? So what? 3 men are accused of acting badly and curiously they have some things in common. Do you have a point?

You are being purposefully obtuse here if you don't see how problematic it is to focus on religion here rather than whatever behavior you want to talk about.

I'll be problematic then. Better than being part of a cult that is expressly against sexism while being raging sexists.

+1 It brings up the question if they're using the religion has an excuse.

Wtf? This is getting weird and unhinged.

How so? It's looking more like Scientology which makes difficult people disappear. Here they want to "bury" people who dare to stand up to them.