Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:How can this thread keep on moving from Bethesda not allowing the 2016s play in the summer to Sal and Achilles? Whoever is pushing that is just making the 2016s wanting to learn more about Achilles


People are so juvenile. Achilles came up along with Coppermine as two of the majors clubs that have emerged over the past 10 years that traditionally sent kids directly to Bethesda. A poster was explaining why Bethesda is not developing super teams anymore. The very next comment discredited Achilles and then a few comments started in that direction.

We are at BSC. We also like Achilles and train with Achilles players and Coach Vinn periodically. I feel fortunate to have two great programs in my backyard.

I am pretty sure most DCUM parents cannot handle the F-you mentality of Sal and Vinn at Achilles anyway. They will clutch their pearls when they see there is no first team and earn your spot week after week by how you practice.


True. Plus this thread, and all threads involving Achilles FC (or those threads with a geographic nexus to Achilles FC) get trolled by a single parent who’s son didn’t make the initial cut to the MLSNext team a couple years ago. It’s so annoying but you’ll notice it time and time again.



I am not being facetious, what does an FU mentality mean? Coach has unquestioned authority, harsh language, constantly critical?
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Anonymous wrote:My son plays for a top BSC team. He guest plays all the time and we just operate on a don't ask, don't tell policy. At least half his team does the same. Never when there is a direct BSC conflict, but they don't play more than 5-6 tournaments a year, so there are tons of other opportunities and he likes to get to play in other tournaments. I'm paying them, not the other way around, so as far as I am concerned my son can do whatever he wants.


How do you get your card to play? We are new to BSC this year and our coach approved guesting but the paperwork said different. I was not going to worry about it until all of this came up. We won’t commit to anything that conflicts with the club.



Would love to know the answer to this question. My DC also plays for first team Bethesda and in the past just asked the coach for the card since as pp said we pay the club not other way around. Moving forward not every coach is going to be willing to do this. I have heard from some Bethesda parents that they created new cards under another association/organization but don’t know how that works


My advice would be to start with the guest club and make sure you understand exactly what they need. If you have to have your club card you should feel out your coach. I know many of the BSC coaches are not close to the Directors, nor do they respect them. Your coach may have no problem sharing your player card but you should be discreet to avoid causing him or her any issues with BSC. Unfortunately, being direct and honest with the club will only cause conflict and repercussions.


Thank you! This helps. I came from a small club and know that no administration is perfect. If I can get the card from the coach, problem solved and we will fly under the radar.
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Anonymous wrote:How can this thread keep on moving from Bethesda not allowing the 2016s play in the summer to Sal and Achilles? Whoever is pushing that is just making the 2016s wanting to learn more about Achilles


People are so juvenile. Achilles came up along with Coppermine as two of the majors clubs that have emerged over the past 10 years that traditionally sent kids directly to Bethesda. A poster was explaining why Bethesda is not developing super teams anymore. The very next comment discredited Achilles and then a few comments started in that direction.

We are at BSC. We also like Achilles and train with Achilles players and Coach Vinn periodically. I feel fortunate to have two great programs in my backyard.

I am pretty sure most DCUM parents cannot handle the F-you mentality of Sal and Vinn at Achilles anyway. They will clutch their pearls when they see there is no first team and earn your spot week after week by how you practice.


True. Plus this thread, and all threads involving Achilles FC (or those threads with a geographic nexus to Achilles FC) get trolled by a single parent who’s son didn’t make the initial cut to the MLSNext team a couple years ago. It’s so annoying but you’ll notice it time and time again.



I am not being facetious, what does an FU mentality mean? Coach has unquestioned authority, harsh language, constantly critical?


Achilles is confident in their training methods and demanding of the kids. There are some parents who have one child there and then another child elsewhere. Only 1 of my kids is wired for their environment. I think people really need to know their kids. They know they have a great training product. They are not salesman and do not really cater to parents like other clubs. That is what is meant by a F-U mentality. The only negative feedback I received from a parent was that the coaches do not care about winning at all. In Italy, the youth system does not track standings until U14 I believe. I think they are mirroring that model and focusing on development and don’t care what parents think about the kids losing.
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Thanks for the clarification. I think for U13 and U14 that MLS Next uses this "Quality of Play" methodology to try and move the focus away from results based on scoreboard alone. It seems like a good idea, not sure I understand the methodology but that's OK.
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So, how do we collectively, as parents, put pressure on the club to change their policies regarding guest playing without being singled out for retaliation?
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Anonymous wrote:That’s one question I’ve always had about Achilles. You can say winning isn’t important but getting crushed constantly isn’t enjoyable and can’t be fun for the players.


Achilles FC U13 team played in the MLSNEXT Cup playoffs two weeks ago. Won in the round of 32, won in the round of 16, and made it to the quarterfinals. MLS’ own QoP ranked them 9 out of 18 teams last season (higher than another Maryland-based team). From what I hear, the players had a blast.


Not playoffs. 2nd bracket.


2nd bracket, yes. What’s your point? Still playoffs. You know, win one game and advance to the next round. Lose one and you’re out.

Try to keep up.




The point was adding details that it was the 2nd bracket and not the top bracket


Still a playoff bracket against 32 other MLSNext teams. Not the “showcase” where most other teams played regardless of making the actual tournament.

For a club that gets “crushed constantly” as you say, yet they made the playoff component of the MLSNext Cup.

Try again next year.



You know we know several of the top U13 and U14 teams chose not to go so teams lower down in the QoP rankings like Achilles went
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Anonymous wrote:How can this thread keep on moving from Bethesda not allowing the 2016s play in the summer to Sal and Achilles? Whoever is pushing that is just making the 2016s wanting to learn more about Achilles


People are so juvenile. Achilles came up along with Coppermine as two of the majors clubs that have emerged over the past 10 years that traditionally sent kids directly to Bethesda. A poster was explaining why Bethesda is not developing super teams anymore. The very next comment discredited Achilles and then a few comments started in that direction.

We are at BSC. We also like Achilles and train with Achilles players and Coach Vinn periodically. I feel fortunate to have two great programs in my backyard.

I am pretty sure most DCUM parents cannot handle the F-you mentality of Sal and Vinn at Achilles anyway. They will clutch their pearls when they see there is no first team and earn your spot week after week by how you practice.


True. Plus this thread, and all threads involving Achilles FC (or those threads with a geographic nexus to Achilles FC) get trolled by a single parent who’s son didn’t make the initial cut to the MLSNext team a couple years ago. It’s so annoying but you’ll notice it time and time again.



I am not being facetious, what does an FU mentality mean? Coach has unquestioned authority, harsh language, constantly critical?


Achilles is confident in their training methods and demanding of the kids. There are some parents who have one child there and then another child elsewhere. Only 1 of my kids is wired for their environment. I think people really need to know their kids. They know they have a great training product. They are not salesman and do not really cater to parents like other clubs. That is what is meant by a F-U mentality. The only negative feedback I received from a parent was that the coaches do not care about winning at all. In Italy, the youth system does not track standings until U14 I believe. I think they are mirroring that model and focusing on development and don’t care what parents think about the kids losing.


You have Stockholm Syndrome to say a coach cussing-out and swearing at young kids is okay.

As for the getting blown out constantly and consistently. What development is happening if they can't score, keep the ball or stop the other team from scoring in lopsided losses?

They teaching thick skin and the art of profanity with lack of impulse control?
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Anonymous wrote:How can this thread keep on moving from Bethesda not allowing the 2016s play in the summer to Sal and Achilles? Whoever is pushing that is just making the 2016s wanting to learn more about Achilles


People are so juvenile. Achilles came up along with Coppermine as two of the majors clubs that have emerged over the past 10 years that traditionally sent kids directly to Bethesda. A poster was explaining why Bethesda is not developing super teams anymore. The very next comment discredited Achilles and then a few comments started in that direction.

We are at BSC. We also like Achilles and train with Achilles players and Coach Vinn periodically. I feel fortunate to have two great programs in my backyard.

I am pretty sure most DCUM parents cannot handle the F-you mentality of Sal and Vinn at Achilles anyway. They will clutch their pearls when they see there is no first team and earn your spot week after week by how you practice.


True. Plus this thread, and all threads involving Achilles FC (or those threads with a geographic nexus to Achilles FC) get trolled by a single parent who’s son didn’t make the initial cut to the MLSNext team a couple years ago. It’s so annoying but you’ll notice it time and time again.



I am not being facetious, what does an FU mentality mean? Coach has unquestioned authority, harsh language, constantly critical?


Achilles is confident in their training methods and demanding of the kids. There are some parents who have one child there and then another child elsewhere. Only 1 of my kids is wired for their environment. I think people really need to know their kids. They know they have a great training product. They are not salesman and do not really cater to parents like other clubs. That is what is meant by a F-U mentality. The only negative feedback I received from a parent was that the coaches do not care about winning at all. In Italy, the youth system does not track standings until U14 I believe. I think they are mirroring that model and focusing on development and don’t care what parents think about the kids losing.


You have Stockholm Syndrome to say a coach cussing-out and swearing at young kids is okay.

As for the getting blown out constantly and consistently. What development is happening if they can't score, keep the ball or stop the other team from scoring in lopsided losses?

They teaching thick skin and the art of profanity with lack of impulse control?


I wrote that. My child does not play for Achilles. They play for BSC. My kid sometimes trains in their environments and those kid sometimes come over to BSC environments. I am talking 1st team level.

You folks are worrying about a few choice words from a coach while my kids have teammates from their private school calling other players the n-word and dropping f-bombs all over the field at the ages of 11-12. We seem to be living in glass houses about what the expectations are from a coach versus what is taking place at home from “the parents.”

I did not say anything about getting blown out consistently helping development. You should reevaluate what you are reading because I try to be careful and measured in my responses. You may confusing what you are reading.

If you don’t know how not keeping score and the desire to win is hurting development, you need to read a lot more about the ego and mindset because you are main subtext in the TV shows Friends and Neighbors and White Lotus my friend.
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Anonymous wrote:How can this thread keep on moving from Bethesda not allowing the 2016s play in the summer to Sal and Achilles? Whoever is pushing that is just making the 2016s wanting to learn more about Achilles


People are so juvenile. Achilles came up along with Coppermine as two of the majors clubs that have emerged over the past 10 years that traditionally sent kids directly to Bethesda. A poster was explaining why Bethesda is not developing super teams anymore. The very next comment discredited Achilles and then a few comments started in that direction.

We are at BSC. We also like Achilles and train with Achilles players and Coach Vinn periodically. I feel fortunate to have two great programs in my backyard.

I am pretty sure most DCUM parents cannot handle the F-you mentality of Sal and Vinn at Achilles anyway. They will clutch their pearls when they see there is no first team and earn your spot week after week by how you practice.


True. Plus this thread, and all threads involving Achilles FC (or those threads with a geographic nexus to Achilles FC) get trolled by a single parent who’s son didn’t make the initial cut to the MLSNext team a couple years ago. It’s so annoying but you’ll notice it time and time again.



I am not being facetious, what does an FU mentality mean? Coach has unquestioned authority, harsh language, constantly critical?


Achilles is confident in their training methods and demanding of the kids. There are some parents who have one child there and then another child elsewhere. Only 1 of my kids is wired for their environment. I think people really need to know their kids. They know they have a great training product. They are not salesman and do not really cater to parents like other clubs. That is what is meant by a F-U mentality. The only negative feedback I received from a parent was that the coaches do not care about winning at all. In Italy, the youth system does not track standings until U14 I believe. I think they are mirroring that model and focusing on development and don’t care what parents think about the kids losing.


You have Stockholm Syndrome to say a coach cussing-out and swearing at young kids is okay.

As for the getting blown out constantly and consistently. What development is happening if they can't score, keep the ball or stop the other team from scoring in lopsided losses?

They teaching thick skin and the art of profanity with lack of impulse control?


I wrote that. My child does not play for Achilles. They play for BSC. My kid sometimes trains in their environments and those kid sometimes come over to BSC environments. I am talking 1st team level.

You folks are worrying about a few choice words from a coach while my kids have teammates from their private school calling other players the n-word and dropping f-bombs all over the field at the ages of 11-12. We seem to be living in glass houses about what the expectations are from a coach versus what is taking place at home from “the parents.”

I did not say anything about getting blown out consistently helping development. You should reevaluate what you are reading because I try to be careful and measured in my responses. You may confusing what you are reading.

If you don’t know how not keeping score and the desire to win is hurting development, you need to read a lot more about the ego and mindset because you are main subtext in the TV shows Friends and Neighbors and White Lotus my friend.


So a bunch of spoil brats not being raised right at home cursing and swearing during games at each other makes it okay for an adult coach to curse and swear at children?
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Anonymous wrote:That’s one question I’ve always had about Achilles. You can say winning isn’t important but getting crushed constantly isn’t enjoyable and can’t be fun for the players.


Achilles FC U13 team played in the MLSNEXT Cup playoffs two weeks ago. Won in the round of 32, won in the round of 16, and made it to the quarterfinals. MLS’ own QoP ranked them 9 out of 18 teams last season (higher than another Maryland-based team). From what I hear, the players had a blast.


Not playoffs. 2nd bracket.


2nd bracket, yes. What’s your point? Still playoffs. You know, win one game and advance to the next round. Lose one and you’re out.

Try to keep up.




The point was adding details that it was the 2nd bracket and not the top bracket


Still a playoff bracket against 32 other MLSNext teams. Not the “showcase” where most other teams played regardless of making the actual tournament.

For a club that gets “crushed constantly” as you say, yet they made the playoff component of the MLSNext Cup.

Try again next year.



You know we know several of the top U13 and U14 teams chose not to go so teams lower down in the QoP rankings like Achilles went


It sounds like you know we know your DC’s team wasn’t selected. And who cares if other teams passed—didn’t see Phili Union, NY Redbulls or FC Delco, so the same could be said for Baltimore Armor, Alexandria and SYC (who went on to win the U13 Championship bracket).

You say Achilles FC routinely gets destroyed, yet in the tournament phase of the MLSNext Cup, their U13’s went to the quarterfinals in the 2nd tournament bracket.

You are not nearly as clever as you think you are.
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Anonymous wrote:How can this thread keep on moving from Bethesda not allowing the 2016s play in the summer to Sal and Achilles? Whoever is pushing that is just making the 2016s wanting to learn more about Achilles


People are so juvenile. Achilles came up along with Coppermine as two of the majors clubs that have emerged over the past 10 years that traditionally sent kids directly to Bethesda. A poster was explaining why Bethesda is not developing super teams anymore. The very next comment discredited Achilles and then a few comments started in that direction.

We are at BSC. We also like Achilles and train with Achilles players and Coach Vinn periodically. I feel fortunate to have two great programs in my backyard.

I am pretty sure most DCUM parents cannot handle the F-you mentality of Sal and Vinn at Achilles anyway. They will clutch their pearls when they see there is no first team and earn your spot week after week by how you practice.


True. Plus this thread, and all threads involving Achilles FC (or those threads with a geographic nexus to Achilles FC) get trolled by a single parent who’s son didn’t make the initial cut to the MLSNext team a couple years ago. It’s so annoying but you’ll notice it time and time again.



I am not being facetious, what does an FU mentality mean? Coach has unquestioned authority, harsh language, constantly critical?


Achilles is confident in their training methods and demanding of the kids. There are some parents who have one child there and then another child elsewhere. Only 1 of my kids is wired for their environment. I think people really need to know their kids. They know they have a great training product. They are not salesman and do not really cater to parents like other clubs. That is what is meant by a F-U mentality. The only negative feedback I received from a parent was that the coaches do not care about winning at all. In Italy, the youth system does not track standings until U14 I believe. I think they are mirroring that model and focusing on development and don’t care what parents think about the kids losing.


You have Stockholm Syndrome to say a coach cussing-out and swearing at young kids is okay.

As for the getting blown out constantly and consistently. What development is happening if they can't score, keep the ball or stop the other team from scoring in lopsided losses?

They teaching thick skin and the art of profanity with lack of impulse control?


Haha. It IS the Achilles stalker. “Stockholm Syndrome” is their “go-to” when all else fails.

Let it go, darling, it’s been a few years now.
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Anonymous wrote:How can this thread keep on moving from Bethesda not allowing the 2016s play in the summer to Sal and Achilles? Whoever is pushing that is just making the 2016s wanting to learn more about Achilles


People are so juvenile. Achilles came up along with Coppermine as two of the majors clubs that have emerged over the past 10 years that traditionally sent kids directly to Bethesda. A poster was explaining why Bethesda is not developing super teams anymore. The very next comment discredited Achilles and then a few comments started in that direction.

We are at BSC. We also like Achilles and train with Achilles players and Coach Vinn periodically. I feel fortunate to have two great programs in my backyard.

I am pretty sure most DCUM parents cannot handle the F-you mentality of Sal and Vinn at Achilles anyway. They will clutch their pearls when they see there is no first team and earn your spot week after week by how you practice.


True. Plus this thread, and all threads involving Achilles FC (or those threads with a geographic nexus to Achilles FC) get trolled by a single parent who’s son didn’t make the initial cut to the MLSNext team a couple years ago. It’s so annoying but you’ll notice it time and time again.



I am not being facetious, what does an FU mentality mean? Coach has unquestioned authority, harsh language, constantly critical?


Achilles is confident in their training methods and demanding of the kids. There are some parents who have one child there and then another child elsewhere. Only 1 of my kids is wired for their environment. I think people really need to know their kids. They know they have a great training product. They are not salesman and do not really cater to parents like other clubs. That is what is meant by a F-U mentality. The only negative feedback I received from a parent was that the coaches do not care about winning at all. In Italy, the youth system does not track standings until U14 I believe. I think they are mirroring that model and focusing on development and don’t care what parents think about the kids losing.


You have Stockholm Syndrome to say a coach cussing-out and swearing at young kids is okay.

As for the getting blown out constantly and consistently. What development is happening if they can't score, keep the ball or stop the other team from scoring in lopsided losses?

They teaching thick skin and the art of profanity with lack of impulse control?


I wrote that. My child does not play for Achilles. They play for BSC. My kid sometimes trains in their environments and those kid sometimes come over to BSC environments. I am talking 1st team level.

You folks are worrying about a few choice words from a coach while my kids have teammates from their private school calling other players the n-word and dropping f-bombs all over the field at the ages of 11-12. We seem to be living in glass houses about what the expectations are from a coach versus what is taking place at home from “the parents.”

I did not say anything about getting blown out consistently helping development. You should reevaluate what you are reading because I try to be careful and measured in my responses. You may confusing what you are reading.

If you don’t know how not keeping score and the desire to win is hurting development, you need to read a lot more about the ego and mindset because you are main subtext in the TV shows Friends and Neighbors and White Lotus my friend.


So a bunch of spoil brats not being raised right at home cursing and swearing during games at each other makes it okay for an adult coach to curse and swear at children?


I wouldn’t even bother responding to this troll. It’s a pathetic human trashing kids. They need to look inward but they never will.

Meanwhile the players and parents love the program. Bethesda and all local MLSNext teams are great competition.

Look forward to this coming season.
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Anonymous wrote:How can this thread keep on moving from Bethesda not allowing the 2016s play in the summer to Sal and Achilles? Whoever is pushing that is just making the 2016s wanting to learn more about Achilles


People are so juvenile. Achilles came up along with Coppermine as two of the majors clubs that have emerged over the past 10 years that traditionally sent kids directly to Bethesda. A poster was explaining why Bethesda is not developing super teams anymore. The very next comment discredited Achilles and then a few comments started in that direction.

We are at BSC. We also like Achilles and train with Achilles players and Coach Vinn periodically. I feel fortunate to have two great programs in my backyard.

I am pretty sure most DCUM parents cannot handle the F-you mentality of Sal and Vinn at Achilles anyway. They will clutch their pearls when they see there is no first team and earn your spot week after week by how you practice.


True. Plus this thread, and all threads involving Achilles FC (or those threads with a geographic nexus to Achilles FC) get trolled by a single parent who’s son didn’t make the initial cut to the MLSNext team a couple years ago. It’s so annoying but you’ll notice it time and time again.



I am not being facetious, what does an FU mentality mean? Coach has unquestioned authority, harsh language, constantly critical?


Achilles is confident in their training methods and demanding of the kids. There are some parents who have one child there and then another child elsewhere. Only 1 of my kids is wired for their environment. I think people really need to know their kids. They know they have a great training product. They are not salesman and do not really cater to parents like other clubs. That is what is meant by a F-U mentality. The only negative feedback I received from a parent was that the coaches do not care about winning at all. In Italy, the youth system does not track standings until U14 I believe. I think they are mirroring that model and focusing on development and don’t care what parents think about the kids losing.


You have Stockholm Syndrome to say a coach cussing-out and swearing at young kids is okay.

As for the getting blown out constantly and consistently. What development is happening if they can't score, keep the ball or stop the other team from scoring in lopsided losses?

They teaching thick skin and the art of profanity with lack of impulse control?


I wrote that. My child does not play for Achilles. They play for BSC. My kid sometimes trains in their environments and those kid sometimes come over to BSC environments. I am talking 1st team level.

You folks are worrying about a few choice words from a coach while my kids have teammates from their private school calling other players the n-word and dropping f-bombs all over the field at the ages of 11-12. We seem to be living in glass houses about what the expectations are from a coach versus what is taking place at home from “the parents.”

I did not say anything about getting blown out consistently helping development. You should reevaluate what you are reading because I try to be careful and measured in my responses. You may confusing what you are reading.

If you don’t know how not keeping score and the desire to win is hurting development, you need to read a lot more about the ego and mindset because you are main subtext in the TV shows Friends and Neighbors and White Lotus my friend.


So a bunch of spoil brats not being raised right at home cursing and swearing during games at each other makes it okay for an adult coach to curse and swear at children?


I wouldn’t even bother responding to this troll. It’s a pathetic human trashing kids. They need to look inward but they never will.

Meanwhile the players and parents love the program. Bethesda and all local MLSNext teams are great competition.

Look forward to this coming season.


Seems the alleged troll was responding directly to this
"You folks are worrying about a few choice words from a coach while my kids have teammates from their private school calling other players the n-word and dropping f-bombs all over the field at the ages of 11-12"
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Anonymous wrote:That’s one question I’ve always had about Achilles. You can say winning isn’t important but getting crushed constantly isn’t enjoyable and can’t be fun for the players.


Achilles FC U13 team played in the MLSNEXT Cup playoffs two weeks ago. Won in the round of 32, won in the round of 16, and made it to the quarterfinals. MLS’ own QoP ranked them 9 out of 18 teams last season (higher than another Maryland-based team). From what I hear, the players had a blast.


Not playoffs. 2nd bracket.


2nd bracket, yes. What’s your point? Still playoffs. You know, win one game and advance to the next round. Lose one and you’re out.

Try to keep up.




The point was adding details that it was the 2nd bracket and not the top bracket


Still a playoff bracket against 32 other MLSNext teams. Not the “showcase” where most other teams played regardless of making the actual tournament.

For a club that gets “crushed constantly” as you say, yet they made the playoff component of the MLSNext Cup.

Try again next year.



You know we know several of the top U13 and U14 teams chose not to go so teams lower down in the QoP rankings like Achilles went


It sounds like you know we know your DC’s team wasn’t selected. And who cares if other teams passed—didn’t see Phili Union, NY Redbulls or FC Delco, so the same could be said for Baltimore Armor, Alexandria and SYC (who went on to win the U13 Championship bracket).

You say Achilles FC routinely gets destroyed, yet in the tournament phase of the MLSNext Cup, their U13’s went to the quarterfinals in the 2nd tournament bracket.

You are not nearly as clever as you think you are.


Of course they did okay in the 2nd bracket of a tournament where many of the better teams didn't go. Duh
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