Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the hospital made any kind of public apology for putting her on administrative leave (implying she had done something wrong, or at minimum something they needed to investigate?)

This is misguided. The whole point of administrative leave is to allow employers take time to try and figure out the facts before rushing to judgment when an issue arises. Administrative leave is almost always paid leave. They didn't accuse her of anything. They aren't going to apologize because they didn't imply she did anything wrong. Putting an employee on paid admin leave while looking into a matter further is standard procedure and doesn't warrant an apology -- even if people are trying to spin it into a punishment or indictment.

All things considered, it’s probably best for both parties that they go their separate ways. She gets a reasonable settlement and never works there again.

This is a bad outcome to me. She’s done nothing to harm the hospital and they’ve done nothing to harm her (the leave was paid and their statement was neutral). If the outcome here is: a dedicated healthcare worker leaves hospital because after being harassed outside work, an internet mob tried to destroy her name and reputation, that’s just sad.

I bet you anything a lot of people at that hospital support her, are familiar with this kind of street harassment near the building, and would welcome her back with open arms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How terrible. A bunch of men ganging up on a pregnant woman? I guess all of these men grew up in a home without a father and weren’t taught how to respect women. They simply don’t know any better.

No wonder workers don’t want to come back FT to offices in Manhattan. Living and working from home from CT or Westchester is a much better option and way safer. Way fewer dudes who will even argue with a pregnant woman about a bike.

There’s that dog whistle again. You just can’t help yourself.

But sadly it’s true. Any man raised in a good home with decent values doesn’t try to take a bike from a pregnant woman. You’re likely defensive and angry because you know it’s true.

Oh, I’m not angry, or defensive. I’m just saying you’re a racist, which is accurate. You’re also bad at logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How terrible. A bunch of men ganging up on a pregnant woman? I guess all of these men grew up in a home without a father and weren’t taught how to respect women. They simply don’t know any better.

No wonder workers don’t want to come back FT to offices in Manhattan. Living and working from home from CT or Westchester is a much better option and way safer. Way fewer dudes who will even argue with a pregnant woman about a bike.

There’s that dog whistle again. You just can’t help yourself.

But sadly it’s true. Any man raised in a good home with decent values doesn’t try to take a bike from a pregnant woman. You’re likely defensive and angry because you know it’s true.

DP. You're making broad generalizations about another race, and that's just wrong. I agree the guys are scum, but no need to seize on that to make a racist point.

But instead of the men's terrible behavior, let's focus on the behavior of the victim and how she didn't react appropriately enough. Let's talk about "fake tears" and calling for help because she wanted something to happen to them. Did you call out the men's bad behavior at any point? If not, why should anyone care about any feeble point you're trying to make?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread should be called “racist vs. misogynist.”

It shouldn’t. Because there was no one in this conflict who was racist on one side facing misogyny. The maltreatment came entirely from the men and none of your lying changes it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the hospital made any kind of public apology for putting her on administrative leave (implying she had done something wrong, or at minimum something they needed to investigate?)

This is misguided. The whole point of administrative leave is to allow employers take time to try and figure out the facts before rushing to judgment when an issue arises. Administrative leave is almost always paid leave. They didn't accuse her of anything. They aren't going to apologize because they didn't imply she did anything wrong. Putting an employee on paid admin leave while looking into a matter further is standard procedure and doesn't warrant an apology -- even if people are trying to spin it into a punishment or indictment.

All things considered, it’s probably best for both parties that they go their separate ways. She gets a reasonable settlement and never works there again.

This is a bad outcome to me. She’s done nothing to harm the hospital and they’ve done nothing to harm her (the leave was paid and their statement was neutral). If the outcome here is: a dedicated healthcare worker leaves hospital because after being harassed outside work, an internet mob tried to destroy her name and reputation, that’s just sad.

I bet you anything a lot of people at that hospital support her, are familiar with this kind of street harassment near the building, and would welcome her back with open arms.

It’s Bellevue and I know where it is and believe your take is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread should be called “racist vs. misogynist.”

It shouldn’t. Because there was no one in this conflict who was racist on one side facing misogyny. The maltreatment came entirely from the men and none of your lying changes it.

The majority of this conversation is about the woman's behavior and whether it was right or wrong. Not much mention of the fact that maybe all this could have been avoided if the men had acted appropriately in the first place. Don't start none, won't be none. But some people actually believe that in the face of such awful behavior, the victim needs to tone down her reaction, hide her emotions, protect the fragile men, lest something bad happen. Something bad has already happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How terrible. A bunch of men ganging up on a pregnant woman? I guess all of these men grew up in a home without a father and weren’t taught how to respect women. They simply don’t know any better.

No wonder workers don’t want to come back FT to offices in Manhattan. Living and working from home from CT or Westchester is a much better option and way safer. Way fewer dudes who will even argue with a pregnant woman about a bike.

There’s that dog whistle again. You just can’t help yourself.

But sadly it’s true. Any man raised in a good home with decent values doesn’t try to take a bike from a pregnant woman. You’re likely defensive and angry because you know it’s true.

DP. You're making broad generalizations about another race, and that's just wrong. I agree the guys are scum, but no need to seize on that to make a racist point.

But instead of the men's terrible behavior, let's focus on the behavior of the victim and how she didn't react appropriately enough. Let's talk about "fake tears" and calling for help because she wanted something to happen to them. Did you call out the men's bad behavior at any point? If not, why should anyone care about any feeble point you're trying to make?

Yes. I posted above that the men are scum and I said this was about white women, not just about white people.

What I’m saying now is, let’s not get in the gutter with the anti-white, misogynistic racists. We can do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How terrible. A bunch of men ganging up on a pregnant woman? I guess all of these men grew up in a home without a father and weren’t taught how to respect women. They simply don’t know any better.

No wonder workers don’t want to come back FT to offices in Manhattan. Living and working from home from CT or Westchester is a much better option and way safer. Way fewer dudes who will even argue with a pregnant woman about a bike.

There’s that dog whistle again. You just can’t help yourself.

But sadly it’s true. Any man raised in a good home with decent values doesn’t try to take a bike from a pregnant woman. You’re likely defensive and angry because you know it’s true.

DP. You're making broad generalizations about another race, and that's just wrong. I agree the guys are scum, but no need to seize on that to make a racist point.

But instead of the men's terrible behavior, let's focus on the behavior of the victim and how she didn't react appropriately enough. Let's talk about "fake tears" and calling for help because she wanted something to happen to them. Did you call out the men's bad behavior at any point? If not, why should anyone care about any feeble point you're trying to make?

Yes. I posted above that the men are scum and I said this was about white women, not just about white people.

What I’m saying now is, let’s not get in the gutter with the anti-white, misogynistic racists. We can do better.

Oh, now it's a bad idea. It was ok until the truth came out though I guess. That's how this thread started, if you recall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the hospital made any kind of public apology for putting her on administrative leave (implying she had done something wrong, or at minimum something they needed to investigate?)

This is misguided. The whole point of administrative leave is to allow employers take time to try and figure out the facts before rushing to judgment when an issue arises. Administrative leave is almost always paid leave. They didn't accuse her of anything. They aren't going to apologize because they didn't imply she did anything wrong. Putting an employee on paid admin leave while looking into a matter further is standard procedure and doesn't warrant an apology -- even if people are trying to spin it into a punishment or indictment.

Disagree. Forced leave, even if paid, can be an adverse action.

[Anonymous]

Those public social media personalities who threw this lady under a bus need to post public apologies.

People need to start being accountable for ruing people's lives by posting random videos.

[Anonymous]

ruining

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How terrible. A bunch of men ganging up on a pregnant woman? I guess all of these men grew up in a home without a father and weren’t taught how to respect women. They simply don’t know any better.

No wonder workers don’t want to come back FT to offices in Manhattan. Living and working from home from CT or Westchester is a much better option and way safer. Way fewer dudes who will even argue with a pregnant woman about a bike.

There’s that dog whistle again. You just can’t help yourself.

But sadly it’s true. Any man raised in a good home with decent values doesn’t try to take a bike from a pregnant woman. You’re likely defensive and angry because you know it’s true.

DP. You're making broad generalizations about another race, and that's just wrong. I agree the guys are scum, but no need to seize on that to make a racist point.

But instead of the men's terrible behavior, let's focus on the behavior of the victim and how she didn't react appropriately enough. Let's talk about "fake tears" and calling for help because she wanted something to happen to them. Did you call out the men's bad behavior at any point? If not, why should anyone care about any feeble point you're trying to make?

Yes. I posted above that the men are scum and I said this was about white women, not just about white people.

What I’m saying now is, let’s not get in the gutter with the anti-white, misogynistic racists. We can do better.

* we can ALL do better

(Pp)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the hospital made any kind of public apology for putting her on administrative leave (implying she had done something wrong, or at minimum something they needed to investigate?)

This is misguided. The whole point of administrative leave is to allow employers take time to try and figure out the facts before rushing to judgment when an issue arises. Administrative leave is almost always paid leave. They didn't accuse her of anything. They aren't going to apologize because they didn't imply she did anything wrong. Putting an employee on paid admin leave while looking into a matter further is standard procedure and doesn't warrant an apology -- even if people are trying to spin it into a punishment or indictment.

All things considered, it’s probably best for both parties that they go their separate ways. She gets a reasonable settlement and never works there again.

This is a bad outcome to me. She’s done nothing to harm the hospital and they’ve done nothing to harm her (the leave was paid and their statement was neutral). If the outcome here is: a dedicated healthcare worker leaves hospital because after being harassed outside work, an internet mob tried to destroy her name and reputation, that’s just sad.

I bet you anything a lot of people at that hospital support her, are familiar with this kind of street harassment near the building, and would welcome her back with open arms.

The outcome will be “New York City loses a dedicated health care professional who worked to serve the least privileged New Yorkers through covid.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the hospital made any kind of public apology for putting her on administrative leave (implying she had done something wrong, or at minimum something they needed to investigate?)

This is misguided. The whole point of administrative leave is to allow employers take time to try and figure out the facts before rushing to judgment when an issue arises. Administrative leave is almost always paid leave. They didn't accuse her of anything. They aren't going to apologize because they didn't imply she did anything wrong. Putting an employee on paid admin leave while looking into a matter further is standard procedure and doesn't warrant an apology -- even if people are trying to spin it into a punishment or indictment.

Disagree. Forced leave, even if paid, can be an adverse action.

I'm sure a heavily pregnant woman is thrilled at the idea of losing her health insurance at this point because some people wanted to have some fun at her expense. Hopefully she can keep it because it's not an ideal time to look for a new job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How terrible. A bunch of men ganging up on a pregnant woman? I guess all of these men grew up in a home without a father and weren’t taught how to respect women. They simply don’t know any better.

No wonder workers don’t want to come back FT to offices in Manhattan. Living and working from home from CT or Westchester is a much better option and way safer. Way fewer dudes who will even argue with a pregnant woman about a bike.

There’s that dog whistle again. You just can’t help yourself.

But sadly it’s true. Any man raised in a good home with decent values doesn’t try to take a bike from a pregnant woman. You’re likely defensive and angry because you know it’s true.

DP. You're making broad generalizations about another race, and that's just wrong. I agree the guys are scum, but no need to seize on that to make a racist point.

But instead of the men's terrible behavior, let's focus on the behavior of the victim and how she didn't react appropriately enough. Let's talk about "fake tears" and calling for help because she wanted something to happen to them. Did you call out the men's bad behavior at any point? If not, why should anyone care about any feeble point you're trying to make?

This is the crux of the issue to me. The amount of malice people read into this woman's behavior was alarming to me. Just tons of assumptions about her "real" motives and straight up disbelieving her requests for help or her apparent distress. It really bothers me because what are you supposed to do if you need help?

People kept saying that she should have just walked away, but those guys were all around her. And ultimately she does walk away, but first she gets upset. Are you not allowed to get upset, ever? Not allowed to ask for help? Not allowed to cry if you feel like crying?

It's just insane to me.