Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think she’s making Tyler wait for sex? I mean, assuming he isn’t gay and assuming they’re planning to get married?

There is nothing “Christian” left of Jen. She slams “purity culture” just as much as the “toxic church systems”.
That being said, I think she wants us to think she’s having sex with Tyler. But I don’t think they are because he seems very….gay.

Maybe she is. Maybe she isn’t. But I’ll tell you one thing that I know as sure as the the sun rises in the East; and that is Brandon is knocking the bottom out of his Miss Thang. Brandon has broke free from 40+ years of being shackled by the chains of religion and church. He’s tapping that a** with every ounce of git up he’s got. His flat brim cap is pulled down over his ears and erythang.

gross

Ha! That is the best! Gross but true!!!!! Lol. Thanks for the chuckle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think she’s making Tyler wait for sex? I mean, assuming he isn’t gay and assuming they’re planning to get married?

There is nothing “Christian” left of Jen. She slams “purity culture” just as much as the “toxic church systems”.
That being said, I think she wants us to think she’s having sex with Tyler. But I don’t think they are because he seems very….gay.

Maybe she is. Maybe she isn’t. But I’ll tell you one thing that I know as sure as the the sun rises in the East; and that is Brandon is knocking the bottom out of his Miss Thang. Brandon has broke free from 40+ years of being shackled by the chains of religion and church. He’s tapping that a** with every ounce of git up he’s got. His flat brim cap is pulled down over his ears and erythang.

gross

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think she’s making Tyler wait for sex? I mean, assuming he isn’t gay and assuming they’re planning to get married?

There is nothing “Christian” left of Jen. She slams “purity culture” just as much as the “toxic church systems”.
That being said, I think she wants us to think she’s having sex with Tyler. But I don’t think they are because he seems very….gay.

Maybe she is. Maybe she isn’t. But I’ll tell you one thing that I know as sure as the the sun rises in the East; and that is Brandon is knocking the bottom out of his Miss Thang. Brandon has broke free from 40+ years of being shackled by the chains of religion and church. He’s tapping that a** with every ounce of git up he’s got. His flat brim cap is pulled down over his ears and erythang.

Ewwww, David

Love Schitt’s Creek!! Great reference!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think she’s making Tyler wait for sex? I mean, assuming he isn’t gay and assuming they’re planning to get married?

There is nothing “Christian” left of Jen. She slams “purity culture” just as much as the “toxic church systems”.
That being said, I think she wants us to think she’s having sex with Tyler. But I don’t think they are because he seems very….gay.

Maybe she is. Maybe she isn’t. But I’ll tell you one thing that I know as sure as the the sun rises in the East; and that is Brandon is knocking the bottom out of his Miss Thang. Brandon has broke free from 40+ years of being shackled by the chains of religion and church. He’s tapping that a** with every ounce of git up he’s got. His flat brim cap is pulled down over his ears and erythang.

gross

Not gross. I think it is funny. And very likely true. Lots of up tight folk in here.

[Anonymous]

It’s funny cause it’s true. Brandon has that glow that Jen knows means he’s getting good lovin’. His new lover is all the things he wants: cute as a button, gainfully employeed in a respectable and real job as a nurse, and 100% into him. Hence Jen’s desperate need to have her own happy ending, cause she needs to win in the post divorce race to the “whole” and “grown ass” relationship.
My question is how are none of her counselor friends not doing an intervention with her codependent love addict behavior. She’s declaring this long distance, never-married guy is her “lifesaver” and her forever. They’ve know each other a few months living states apart. But they know because they are ALL healed up and whole. Does no one love her enough to tell her that’s not even possible? A year and half of zoom counseling sessions does not render you all better and free from codependency. It’s a recovery just like alcoholism. Particularly when you invested years in creating a myth about your life that you broadcasted daily into your social media echo chamber. How are those close to her not sounding the alarms? Perhaps they are, or they are chronic enablers who happily live in Jen’s alternate reality myths cause she’s so good with her story telling. Hurts to watch. There’s a ton right and beautiful about Jen, romantic relational health is one of them, at least not yet. I sincerely hope she comes down from her oxytocin love high, loses the self righteous woke soapbox and finds her authentic voice. I’m believing it’s still in there somewhere, she’s just drunk on her own exposure right now.

[Anonymous]

Jen's friends are enablers. I don't think Jen could tolerate any real, penetrative accountability from any longtime real friends asking hard questions and calling out her bullshit.

Therefor her ride or die friend group has to be all in for the complete fantasy and official narrative. Remember, Jen hates pushback and quickly deletes or blocks criticism.

[Anonymous]

I've had two friends boomerang into new, long distance relationships within a year or two of a divorce. Very similar gushing love bombing, very similar I'm Whole Now So I Can Love Again! proclamations. Lots of people raised around them some gentle concerns which were of course ignored and both relationships flamed out spectacularly within a year.

Another friend suffered a divorce due to a cheating husband, took about four years off, didn't even date, worked on herself and her kids, then eventually, not really looking for it, found real love and now she's happily remarried and healthy. But her new relationship was quiet and careful. No passionate public announcements, no love bombing. In fact the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jen's friends are enablers. I don't think Jen could tolerate any real, penetrative accountability from any longtime real friends asking hard questions and calling out her bullshit.

Therefor her ride or die friend group has to be all in for the complete fantasy and official narrative. Remember, Jen hates pushback and quickly deletes or blocks criticism.

They don’t call her out because she’s a classic narcissist. My mom is too. (I actually see a lot of her in Jen’s posts. Thank God my mom never attained any wealth or celebrity.) We don’t call her out on her BS. NO ONE does. It’s simply not worth it. She’s never wrong. She can’t understand other points of view. Everything is all about her All. The. Time. The only friends and close relationships she has are with doormats (people she can push around and easily manipulate). I assume that’s how all of Jen’s “friends” are as well.

[Anonymous]

If you notice Brandon admitted he had an addiction for 5 plus years that became unmanageable during quarantine. He took ownership for the failure of the relationship. He spoke of the grief of losing friends that he’d had for many years in the divorce. So he lost his church, family, friends because his addiction led to adultery. Understandably, one big hell no for Jenn. She was ok with his addiction flourishing for years under the radar as she posted about what a great family they’d built. So he lives in deep shame and secrecy not wanting to wreck Jen’s dream with a public admission of struggle.
At the end of their reality show he choked up saying the best part was seeing Jen’s dream come true. Years later she’d do a video telling folks to go look up the show and not to miss Brandon’s crying about making her happy while she mockingly laughed. Y’all I knew right then he would be finding love elsewhere. This is the man playing Mr mom the whole time she was on her speaking tours soaking in the adoration of her fans. He spent his entire adult life making Jen’s dreams come true. When he was devastated after the death of his friend in the golf cart accident he lost all hope. That’s when he shifted from skinny white suburban pastor to beefy, covered in tats, Christian motorcycle club dude who medicated his pain with addiction. Those guys would accept him even if he killed a buddy in a freak accident and was a full blown addict.
When Tyler told Glennon and Abby how he just couldn’t imagine how anyone could hurt Jen like that I thought, just you wait. He will one day be known as Jen’s rebound bandana man in mean tweets with her crew. Tyler and Jen are very similar in temperament, highly effusive and demonstrative. They feed on the same adulation as being seen as social justice warriors. I guess at the end of the day I give her grace cause emotionally she’s 19 feeling forced to get married middle of sophomore year so she can have sex. That achiever was going to walk the aisle a virgin. Some part of her hasn’t grown since that covert trauma. Cause back in the day the way you won at a Christian college was getting married to the up and coming pastor boy asap.
Both Brandon and Jen got locked into a lie that lasted decades. The crazy thing is it was all of their own doing. There are AA, NA, coda groups where they could have gone and been their real messy selves and found the genuine dream of being fully seen and known. No one cares there if you had sex before marriage, grew a church, built a social media empire, or wrote 12 books. They’’d have seen the truth of two broken people who need a higher power to save them from themselves. Gaslighting is strictly forbidden and everyone is equal. Instead they feel betrayed by the church and conservative Christian’s. You know the very people who gave them a platform. Sigh.
We are all just walking each other home. I get it they are pissed that following churchianity’s rules failed them. The real church is here to welcome them home whenever they are ready. There are two beautiful souls there who don’t know how to do pain, but they’ll learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you notice Brandon admitted he had an addiction for 5 plus years that became unmanageable during quarantine. He took ownership for the failure of the relationship. He spoke of the grief of losing friends that he’d had for many years in the divorce. So he lost his church, family, friends because his addiction led to adultery. Understandably, one big hell no for Jenn. She was ok with his addiction flourishing for years under the radar as she posted about what a great family they’d built. So he lives in deep shame and secrecy not wanting to wreck Jen’s dream with a public admission of struggle.
At the end of their reality show he choked up saying the best part was seeing Jen’s dream come true. Years later she’d do a video telling folks to go look up the show and not to miss Brandon’s crying about making her happy while she mockingly laughed. Y’all I knew right then he would be finding love elsewhere. This is the man playing Mr mom the whole time she was on her speaking tours soaking in the adoration of her fans. He spent his entire adult life making Jen’s dreams come true. When he was devastated after the death of his friend in the golf cart accident he lost all hope. That’s when he shifted from skinny white suburban pastor to beefy, covered in tats, Christian motorcycle club dude who medicated his pain with addiction. Those guys would accept him even if he killed a buddy in a freak accident and was a full blown addict.
When Tyler told Glennon and Abby how he just couldn’t imagine how anyone could hurt Jen like that I thought, just you wait. He will one day be known as Jen’s rebound bandana man in mean tweets with her crew. Tyler and Jen are very similar in temperament, highly effusive and demonstrative. They feed on the same adulation as being seen as social justice warriors. I guess at the end of the day I give her grace cause emotionally she’s 19 feeling forced to get married middle of sophomore year so she can have sex. That achiever was going to walk the aisle a virgin. Some part of her hasn’t grown since that covert trauma. Cause back in the day the way you won at a Christian college was getting married to the up and coming pastor boy asap.
Both Brandon and Jen got locked into a lie that lasted decades. The crazy thing is it was all of their own doing. There are AA, NA, coda groups where they could have gone and been their real messy selves and found the genuine dream of being fully seen and known. No one cares there if you had sex before marriage, grew a church, built a social media empire, or wrote 12 books. They’’d have seen the truth of two broken people who need a higher power to save them from themselves. Gaslighting is strictly forbidden and everyone is equal. Instead they feel betrayed by the church and conservative Christian’s. You know the very people who gave them a platform. Sigh.
We are all just walking each other home. I get it they are pissed that following churchianity’s rules failed them. The real church is here to welcome them home whenever they are ready. There are two beautiful souls there who don’t know how to do pain, but they’ll learn.


I think you’re on to something. I always felt Brandon was trying to find his way. I distinctly remember the day I’m at ANC when he professed that he’d been hanging out with bikers who, while frowned upon by much of “polite” society, were the salt of the earth. He knew then he’d found some bros who did t really give a damn about religion, but rather the brotherhood. And you’re right, he went from skinny Brandon who wore Chuck Taylors with a tattoo here or there to a jacked up whole new persona.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you notice Brandon admitted he had an addiction for 5 plus years that became unmanageable during quarantine. He took ownership for the failure of the relationship. He spoke of the grief of losing friends that he’d had for many years in the divorce. So he lost his church, family, friends because his addiction led to adultery. Understandably, one big hell no for Jenn. She was ok with his addiction flourishing for years under the radar as she posted about what a great family they’d built. So he lives in deep shame and secrecy not wanting to wreck Jen’s dream with a public admission of struggle.
At the end of their reality show he choked up saying the best part was seeing Jen’s dream come true. Years later she’d do a video telling folks to go look up the show and not to miss Brandon’s crying about making her happy while she mockingly laughed. Y’all I knew right then he would be finding love elsewhere. This is the man playing Mr mom the whole time she was on her speaking tours soaking in the adoration of her fans. He spent his entire adult life making Jen’s dreams come true. When he was devastated after the death of his friend in the golf cart accident he lost all hope. That’s when he shifted from skinny white suburban pastor to beefy, covered in tats, Christian motorcycle club dude who medicated his pain with addiction. Those guys would accept him even if he killed a buddy in a freak accident and was a full blown addict.
When Tyler told Glennon and Abby how he just couldn’t imagine how anyone could hurt Jen like that I thought, just you wait. He will one day be known as Jen’s rebound bandana man in mean tweets with her crew. Tyler and Jen are very similar in temperament, highly effusive and demonstrative. They feed on the same adulation as being seen as social justice warriors. I guess at the end of the day I give her grace cause emotionally she’s 19 feeling forced to get married middle of sophomore year so she can have sex. That achiever was going to walk the aisle a virgin. Some part of her hasn’t grown since that covert trauma. Cause back in the day the way you won at a Christian college was getting married to the up and coming pastor boy asap.
Both Brandon and Jen got locked into a lie that lasted decades. The crazy thing is it was all of their own doing. There are AA, NA, coda groups where they could have gone and been their real messy selves and found the genuine dream of being fully seen and known. No one cares there if you had sex before marriage, grew a church, built a social media empire, or wrote 12 books. They’’d have seen the truth of two broken people who need a higher power to save them from themselves. Gaslighting is strictly forbidden and everyone is equal. Instead they feel betrayed by the church and conservative Christian’s. You know the very people who gave them a platform. Sigh.
We are all just walking each other home. I get it they are pissed that following churchianity’s rules failed them. The real church is here to welcome them home whenever they are ready. There are two beautiful souls there who don’t know how to do pain, but they’ll learn.


I think you’re on to something. I always felt Brandon was trying to find his way. I distinctly remember the day I’m at ANC when he professed that he’d been hanging out with bikers who, while frowned upon by much of “polite” society, were the salt of the earth. He knew then he’d found some bros who did t really give a damn about religion, but rather the brotherhood. And you’re right, he went from skinny Brandon who wore Chuck Taylors with a tattoo here or there to a jacked up whole new persona.

Midlife Crises? When middle aged men discover new personas it usually is peak cringe. My dad had a friend who's last name was MacAskill. Despite having grown up in
like the Florida Panhandle in his fifties he suddenly decided he was a proud Scot and wore kilts in public not as a costume and even tried to start playing the bagpipes. It was harmless but hilarious and everyone sort of considered him a joke. When men hit a mature age they are supposed to be comfortable in their skin.

[Anonymous]

Just reading above about Brandon… did it for sure come out that he cheated on Jen?

[Anonymous]

Jen said she talked to Glennon about her suspicions because Glennon had been through it in her marriage. Craig was into porn and one night stands. Jen said she was half right. She also said it was the oldest story in the book. Which also points to adultery. So whether it was with an actual person or some kink online we don’t know. Whatever it was she felt compelled to end the marriage immediately upon its discovery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jen said she talked to Glennon about her suspicions because Glennon had been through it in her marriage. Craig was into porn and one night stands. Jen said she was half right. She also said it was the oldest story in the book. Which also points to adultery. So whether it was with an actual person or some kink online we don’t know. Whatever it was she felt compelled to end the marriage immediately upon its discovery.

I have no idea obviously but I tend to think it was porn or an online thing. Because he said he was suffering for 5 years, then the marriage ends, then he’s pretty quickly in another relationship that appears to be monogamous and where he appears to be fully invested. Would someone struggling with sex addiction/having one night stands leave one long term relationship and immediately enter another? I call his new one long term bc it’s been at least a year (I think).

But I also have no clue what I’m talking about so who knows.

[Anonymous]

It’s so bizarre how much really deeply personal stuff they just let allllll hang out. Don’t they care how this affects their kids!?