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What else is there? There's being a nice person and making sure you do everything you can not to infect other people.

To do EVERYTHING I can? No, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to visit my relatives (who are all vaccinated and boosted), I'm going to go to the grocery store and other stores too, I'm going to go to doctor's appointments, my child (who is vaccinated) is going to go to school and do their extracurricular activities, I'm going to have repair people come into the house if repairs in the house are needed, etc. etc. etc.

And you're going to wear a mask when you do those things?

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True! By June you should have a handle on any long term effects, learned how to give your kid the insulin, etc. Then in June, when the virus that's been happily mutating all along reinfects your family, we will get to see what exciting new cell damage y'all get. Thanks for signing up for this medical experiment, PP. You really are doing your part to advance science.

My one kid is vaccinated. My other kid is vaccinated and boostered. I am vaccinated and boostered. And you are a troll.

No. I'm a parent with a vaccinated and boostered kid who is at the end of my rope that all the other nice white parents like you are too selfish to care about potentially spreading covid to others. Since your own family is protected you don't give a damn about the two year old next door, or the cancer patient in your daughter's class. You have a blm matters sign on your lawn, I'd expect, but you remain blissfully ignorant about what this virus is doing in low-income communities, to the low-income families at your school, and what it will continue to do to families without access to health care. A million American tragedies are happening all around you, but as long as you have your gym, your date night at Founding Fathers, your kid's swim meet... etc. You tell yourself you deserve all of this and you've done your part--meanwhile ignoring all the people forced to work for low wages with no protection just to keep your bubble going.

(Not jealous. We could be living like you do--but my conscience won't allow it. And so we try to live a life that doesn't spread covid to anyone and doesn't expose anyone to covid.)

They will have a rude awakening as they will get covid at some point even boosted.

Not really. One reason we stay this careful is so that we don't spread COVID. It's not all about the fear of catching it.

Do I want it? Nope. Pretty sure my family HAD it in December 2019--and I had weird symptoms through February. Right around the time everyone locked down was when I started to feel human again. That was also when I realized that the weird fatigue and aches and shortness of breath I'd been having might be something, as others were having it too.

Do I want it again? Really not. But mostly I don't want spreading it on my conscience.

It takes two to tango. Unvaccinated individuals and the medically frail need to take care of themselves.

NP. It takes a really crappy person to repeatedly say medically frail should take care of themselves as if most don't already. Many are literally terrified right now and still have to make doctor's appointments and go in person to get treatment. What is a parent of a two year old leukemia patient supposed to do? It is beyond callous to act this cavalier right now. You know you are wrong, you just want to justify your conscience by creating a straw man.

I would expect that they'd already be isolating, with parents being sure to get vaccinated/boosted while also wearing PPE in public.

I get it isn't a great situation to be in, but what else is there? There's always going to be COVID, and there's always going to be two year old leukemia patients.

This isn't a new issue- immunocompromised kids similarly faced risk of influenza and other respiratory diseases during flu season.

What else is there? How about some of you stop a few in person activities for a few weeks? Literally one person not going to their idiotic maskless fitness class right now can potentially stop hundreds of infections. It matters folks. Your fatalism is manufactured.

We did. We did stop going to our fitness classes. For over a year. Now my kids are fat and lazy. Their study skills have regressed and they're just starting to come back. My teenager has never been to a party or even to hang out with a group of kids. And, at the end of the day, we are in exactly the same spot that we were at the beginning of the pandemic. Please hide your sickly people because the rest of us are ready to let it burn and be done with it.

Sounds like a parenting issue. You can exercise with your kids and help them with their study skills.

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Last time i checked, kids live within a community. Their parents and other relatives can get covid from them. Neighbors, friends, strangers. This is not just about the elderly but stopping spread for everyone.

Look, we get it. You cannot have your kids at home and have a difficult homelife. Your kids NEED to be in person school. But, since they need to be, you need to step up and keep them safe by understanding you are living in a community of others and its very easy for them to get it. They will be far more miserable at home sick with covid and then you'll catch it.

DP. If my kid gets it, my vaccinated kid is unlikely to get very sick. If my kid gives it to me, my vaccinated/boosted self is unlikely to get very sick. If either of us gets it, we are relying on testing (and N95 masks, as necessary), plus the vaccine/booster, to reduce the chance of giving it to my vaccinated/boosted parents.

And yeah, my kid needs to be in school, because kids need to be in school.

Your kids can be in school online. Either act responsibly to reduce the spread or don't complain about virtual.

You should get mental health treatment to help you fix your miserable home life for your kids sake.

Your kids and family are very likely to get sick. Sad you dont care about your unvaccinated kit. You need to get them vaccinated.

I think you are having an imaginary conversation with some imaginary unvaccinated people, PP. Do you think this is WVruralmoms?

That is their only talking point given most people in the county who can be vaccinate are.

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True! By June you should have a handle on any long term effects, learned how to give your kid the insulin, etc. Then in June, when the virus that's been happily mutating all along reinfects your family, we will get to see what exciting new cell damage y'all get. Thanks for signing up for this medical experiment, PP. You really are doing your part to advance science.

My one kid is vaccinated. My other kid is vaccinated and boostered. I am vaccinated and boostered. And you are a troll.

No. I'm a parent with a vaccinated and boostered kid who is at the end of my rope that all the other nice white parents like you are too selfish to care about potentially spreading covid to others. Since your own family is protected you don't give a damn about the two year old next door, or the cancer patient in your daughter's class. You have a blm matters sign on your lawn, I'd expect, but you remain blissfully ignorant about what this virus is doing in low-income communities, to the low-income families at your school, and what it will continue to do to families without access to health care. A million American tragedies are happening all around you, but as long as you have your gym, your date night at Founding Fathers, your kid's swim meet... etc. You tell yourself you deserve all of this and you've done your part--meanwhile ignoring all the people forced to work for low wages with no protection just to keep your bubble going.

(Not jealous. We could be living like you do--but my conscience won't allow it. And so we try to live a life that doesn't spread covid to anyone and doesn't expose anyone to covid.)

They will have a rude awakening as they will get covid at some point even boosted.

Not really. One reason we stay this careful is so that we don't spread COVID. It's not all about the fear of catching it.

Do I want it? Nope. Pretty sure my family HAD it in December 2019--and I had weird symptoms through February. Right around the time everyone locked down was when I started to feel human again. That was also when I realized that the weird fatigue and aches and shortness of breath I'd been having might be something, as others were having it too.

Do I want it again? Really not. But mostly I don't want spreading it on my conscience.

It takes two to tango. Unvaccinated individuals and the medically frail need to take care of themselves.

NP. It takes a really crappy person to repeatedly say medically frail should take care of themselves as if most don't already. Many are literally terrified right now and still have to make doctor's appointments and go in person to get treatment. What is a parent of a two year old leukemia patient supposed to do? It is beyond callous to act this cavalier right now. You know you are wrong, you just want to justify your conscience by creating a straw man.

I would expect that they'd already be isolating, with parents being sure to get vaccinated/boosted while also wearing PPE in public.

I get it isn't a great situation to be in, but what else is there? There's always going to be COVID, and there's always going to be two year old leukemia patients.

This isn't a new issue- immunocompromised kids similarly faced risk of influenza and other respiratory diseases during flu season.

What else is there? There's being a nice person and making sure you do everything you can not to infect other people.

To what end? I know that sounds callous, but what is your endgame? It is one thing to keep sick kids home. It is something else to suggest we should be doing masking, physical distancing, rolling school closures, etc., indefinitely because COVID will never go away.

When would you say it would acceptable to end COVID restrictions given that there's always going to be a risk to the medically frail?

With cold and flu, having precautions makes sense.

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I waited to do appointments till now and then this hit. So, now I have to wait another year and its an issue given some test results. I'd rather take my chances with cancer than get covid.

PP, I'm sorry. If you were asking me for advice, I'd advise you to get cancer treatment and take your chances with covid. But you're not asking me for advice.

Its probably nothing. Went to the doctor this week and multiple staff were not masking properly. I’m done with appointments till things get better except for virtual.

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Our society is so selfish.

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True! By June you should have a handle on any long term effects, learned how to give your kid the insulin, etc. Then in June, when the virus that's been happily mutating all along reinfects your family, we will get to see what exciting new cell damage y'all get. Thanks for signing up for this medical experiment, PP. You really are doing your part to advance science.

My one kid is vaccinated. My other kid is vaccinated and boostered. I am vaccinated and boostered. And you are a troll.

No. I'm a parent with a vaccinated and boostered kid who is at the end of my rope that all the other nice white parents like you are too selfish to care about potentially spreading covid to others. Since your own family is protected you don't give a damn about the two year old next door, or the cancer patient in your daughter's class. You have a blm matters sign on your lawn, I'd expect, but you remain blissfully ignorant about what this virus is doing in low-income communities, to the low-income families at your school, and what it will continue to do to families without access to health care. A million American tragedies are happening all around you, but as long as you have your gym, your date night at Founding Fathers, your kid's swim meet... etc. You tell yourself you deserve all of this and you've done your part--meanwhile ignoring all the people forced to work for low wages with no protection just to keep your bubble going.

(Not jealous. We could be living like you do--but my conscience won't allow it. And so we try to live a life that doesn't spread covid to anyone and doesn't expose anyone to covid.)

They will have a rude awakening as they will get covid at some point even boosted.

Not really. One reason we stay this careful is so that we don't spread COVID. It's not all about the fear of catching it.

Do I want it? Nope. Pretty sure my family HAD it in December 2019--and I had weird symptoms through February. Right around the time everyone locked down was when I started to feel human again. That was also when I realized that the weird fatigue and aches and shortness of breath I'd been having might be something, as others were having it too.

Do I want it again? Really not. But mostly I don't want spreading it on my conscience.

It takes two to tango. Unvaccinated individuals and the medically frail need to take care of themselves.

NP. It takes a really crappy person to repeatedly say medically frail should take care of themselves as if most don't already. Many are literally terrified right now and still have to make doctor's appointments and go in person to get treatment. What is a parent of a two year old leukemia patient supposed to do? It is beyond callous to act this cavalier right now. You know you are wrong, you just want to justify your conscience by creating a straw man.

I would expect that they'd already be isolating, with parents being sure to get vaccinated/boosted while also wearing PPE in public.

I get it isn't a great situation to be in, but what else is there? There's always going to be COVID, and there's always going to be two year old leukemia patients.

This isn't a new issue- immunocompromised kids similarly faced risk of influenza and other respiratory diseases during flu season.

What else is there? There's being a nice person and making sure you do everything you can not to infect other people.

To what end? I know that sounds callous, but what is your endgame? It is one thing to keep sick kids home. It is something else to suggest we should be doing masking, physical distancing, rolling school closures, etc., indefinitely because COVID will never go away.

When would you say it would acceptable to end COVID restrictions given that there's always going to be a risk to the medically frail?

With cold and flu, having precautions makes sense.

There's really two aspects of this post that are rather shocking.

First, you seem to be saying that COVID restrictions and requirements should remain permanent. I'm not entirely sure what you include by that, but this thread has overwise been talking about masks, physical distancing during lunch, rolling school closures, and cancelling large-group activities. I think there's a fair number of people that aren't strictly opposed to some of these precautions as a temporary measure during COVID spikes, but many of the people with concerns don't see a coherent plan for ending these. Most post quite directly validates those concerns- a small minority of people never want them to end.

Second, is it interesting that you only referenced cold and flu when attempting to justify permanent restrictions, and not COVID itself. This makes me wonder if you really understand that COVID becoming endemic means that it will continue to circulate in large numbers for the foreseeable future. There's no plausible path for eradicating or eliminating COVID with current technology and science. Do you realize that?

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Anonymous wrote:Our society is so selfish.

Yes. Did you just figure that out?
Don't be a martyr.

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I waited to do appointments till now and then this hit. So, now I have to wait another year and its an issue given some test results. I'd rather take my chances with cancer than get covid.

PP, I'm sorry. If you were asking me for advice, I'd advise you to get cancer treatment and take your chances with covid. But you're not asking me for advice.

Its probably nothing. Went to the doctor this week and multiple staff were not masking properly. I’m done with appointments till things get better except for virtual.

You'd probably find the full truth even more distressing. Health care workers are not regularly tested. They have jobs that need to be done in-person, so they don't want to know if they're infected. This is true even for workers with cold-like symptoms-- they're not going to test if they can avoid it. I know some hospitals are even quietly encouraging COVID-positive medical staff to come in to work.

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Anonymous wrote:Our society is so selfish.

Yes. Did you just figure that out?
Don't be a martyr.

Nearly every decision that anybody makes is inherently selfish. All the pandemic has shown is that people makes their own personal set of rules and exceptions, while calling everybody that doesn't adhere to those rules and exceptions as selfish. It's absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:So many people were like, "Yeah, yeah, that's what they said about Delta, that's what they said about Mu..." And no, Omicron is clearly different. A lot of predictions from a week or two ago are looking like those in Feb of 2020 saying we don't have air pollution like China, so we'll be fine.

That's literally what they said about Delta (except obviously they said "Delta is clearly different").

It... was different. And Omicron is different in a very specific, other way. It replicates like nobody's business and it reinfects (people who have been vaccinated or have had COVID) much more frequently.

You do realize that I didn't say "People said Delta was different, but, really, it's [i]Omicron that's different!" Obviously that's your interpretation-- that "there's always some new boogeyman"-- so you can easily dismiss it. If that's your stance.

What I said about Omicron was in response to people acting like this is no big deal. And won't or shouldn't change our lifestyles, even briefly. People who say everything is overblown, so Omicron must be overblown.

Very much Feb 2020 vibes of people saying we're not like China or Italy (They like have a lot of old people or whatever? America will be fine?) and the media is just fearmongering. We'll never have 100,000 people dead.

But not just Feb 2020 vibes in terms of poo-pooing the reality. Also in terms of the reality itself-- the pace at which this thing is taking over. We went from "Maybe wash your hands longer?" to "Schools are all closed" in about a week in March 2020.

Basically denial/exceptionalism combined with a rapidly-accelerating crisis. Yep, crisis! We all have COVID fatigue, but let's call a thing a thing. It's not doomsaying to say the writing is very clearly on the wall. You can choose how to respond. You can decide not to treat it like a crisis. I mean that sincerely. But it is what it is.

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True! By June you should have a handle on any long term effects, learned how to give your kid the insulin, etc. Then in June, when the virus that's been happily mutating all along reinfects your family, we will get to see what exciting new cell damage y'all get. Thanks for signing up for this medical experiment, PP. You really are doing your part to advance science.

My one kid is vaccinated. My other kid is vaccinated and boostered. I am vaccinated and boostered. And you are a troll.

No. I'm a parent with a vaccinated and boostered kid who is at the end of my rope that all the other nice white parents like you are too selfish to care about potentially spreading covid to others. Since your own family is protected you don't give a damn about the two year old next door, or the cancer patient in your daughter's class. You have a blm matters sign on your lawn, I'd expect, but you remain blissfully ignorant about what this virus is doing in low-income communities, to the low-income families at your school, and what it will continue to do to families without access to health care. A million American tragedies are happening all around you, but as long as you have your gym, your date night at Founding Fathers, your kid's swim meet... etc. You tell yourself you deserve all of this and you've done your part--meanwhile ignoring all the people forced to work for low wages with no protection just to keep your bubble going.

(Not jealous. We could be living like you do--but my conscience won't allow it. And so we try to live a life that doesn't spread covid to anyone and doesn't expose anyone to covid.)

They will have a rude awakening as they will get covid at some point even boosted.

Not really. One reason we stay this careful is so that we don't spread COVID. It's not all about the fear of catching it.

Do I want it? Nope. Pretty sure my family HAD it in December 2019--and I had weird symptoms through February. Right around the time everyone locked down was when I started to feel human again. That was also when I realized that the weird fatigue and aches and shortness of breath I'd been having might be something, as others were having it too.

Do I want it again? Really not. But mostly I don't want spreading it on my conscience.

It takes two to tango. Unvaccinated individuals and the medically frail need to take care of themselves.

NP. It takes a really crappy person to repeatedly say medically frail should take care of themselves as if most don't already. Many are literally terrified right now and still have to make doctor's appointments and go in person to get treatment. What is a parent of a two year old leukemia patient supposed to do? It is beyond callous to act this cavalier right now. You know you are wrong, you just want to justify your conscience by creating a straw man.

I waited to do appointments till now and then this hit. So, now I have to wait another year and its an issue given some test results. I'd rather take my chances with cancer than get covid.

If you're vaxxed and boosted, that's a silly choice.

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Anonymous wrote:So many people were like, "Yeah, yeah, that's what they said about Delta, that's what they said about Mu..." And no, Omicron is clearly different. A lot of predictions from a week or two ago are looking like those in Feb of 2020 saying we don't have air pollution like China, so we'll be fine.

That's literally what they said about Delta (except obviously they said "Delta is clearly different").

And Delta was clearly different, leading to our summer spike and lots of overflowing hospitals.

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True! By June you should have a handle on any long term effects, learned how to give your kid the insulin, etc. Then in June, when the virus that's been happily mutating all along reinfects your family, we will get to see what exciting new cell damage y'all get. Thanks for signing up for this medical experiment, PP. You really are doing your part to advance science.

My one kid is vaccinated. My other kid is vaccinated and boostered. I am vaccinated and boostered. And you are a troll.

No. I'm a parent with a vaccinated and boostered kid who is at the end of my rope that all the other nice white parents like you are too selfish to care about potentially spreading covid to others. Since your own family is protected you don't give a damn about the two year old next door, or the cancer patient in your daughter's class. You have a blm matters sign on your lawn, I'd expect, but you remain blissfully ignorant about what this virus is doing in low-income communities, to the low-income families at your school, and what it will continue to do to families without access to health care. A million American tragedies are happening all around you, but as long as you have your gym, your date night at Founding Fathers, your kid's swim meet... etc. You tell yourself you deserve all of this and you've done your part--meanwhile ignoring all the people forced to work for low wages with no protection just to keep your bubble going.

(Not jealous. We could be living like you do--but my conscience won't allow it. And so we try to live a life that doesn't spread covid to anyone and doesn't expose anyone to covid.)

They will have a rude awakening as they will get covid at some point even boosted.

Not really. One reason we stay this careful is so that we don't spread COVID. It's not all about the fear of catching it.

Do I want it? Nope. Pretty sure my family HAD it in December 2019--and I had weird symptoms through February. Right around the time everyone locked down was when I started to feel human again. That was also when I realized that the weird fatigue and aches and shortness of breath I'd been having might be something, as others were having it too.

Do I want it again? Really not. But mostly I don't want spreading it on my conscience.

It takes two to tango. Unvaccinated individuals and the medically frail need to take care of themselves.

NP. It takes a really crappy person to repeatedly say medically frail should take care of themselves as if most don't already. Many are literally terrified right now and still have to make doctor's appointments and go in person to get treatment. What is a parent of a two year old leukemia patient supposed to do? It is beyond callous to act this cavalier right now. You know you are wrong, you just want to justify your conscience by creating a straw man.

I would expect that they'd already be isolating, with parents being sure to get vaccinated/boosted while also wearing PPE in public.

I get it isn't a great situation to be in, but what else is there? There's always going to be COVID, and there's always going to be two year old leukemia patients.

This isn't a new issue- immunocompromised kids similarly faced risk of influenza and other respiratory diseases during flu season.

What else is there? How about some of you stop a few in person activities for a few weeks? Literally one person not going to their idiotic maskless fitness class right now can potentially stop hundreds of infections. It matters folks. Your fatalism is manufactured.

Then what? COVID will still be around after those few weeks. I honestly don't know what you're trying to accomplish. That's not going to stop infections. At most it will delay them a bit. Is that your goal?

"Flattening the curve" has been a goal since the first spike. Overflowing hospitals aren't good for anyone.

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True! By June you should have a handle on any long term effects, learned how to give your kid the insulin, etc. Then in June, when the virus that's been happily mutating all along reinfects your family, we will get to see what exciting new cell damage y'all get. Thanks for signing up for this medical experiment, PP. You really are doing your part to advance science.

My one kid is vaccinated. My other kid is vaccinated and boostered. I am vaccinated and boostered. And you are a troll.

No. I'm a parent with a vaccinated and boostered kid who is at the end of my rope that all the other nice white parents like you are too selfish to care about potentially spreading covid to others. Since your own family is protected you don't give a damn about the two year old next door, or the cancer patient in your daughter's class. You have a blm matters sign on your lawn, I'd expect, but you remain blissfully ignorant about what this virus is doing in low-income communities, to the low-income families at your school, and what it will continue to do to families without access to health care. A million American tragedies are happening all around you, but as long as you have your gym, your date night at Founding Fathers, your kid's swim meet... etc. You tell yourself you deserve all of this and you've done your part--meanwhile ignoring all the people forced to work for low wages with no protection just to keep your bubble going.

(Not jealous. We could be living like you do--but my conscience won't allow it. And so we try to live a life that doesn't spread covid to anyone and doesn't expose anyone to covid.)

They will have a rude awakening as they will get covid at some point even boosted.

Not really. One reason we stay this careful is so that we don't spread COVID. It's not all about the fear of catching it.

Do I want it? Nope. Pretty sure my family HAD it in December 2019--and I had weird symptoms through February. Right around the time everyone locked down was when I started to feel human again. That was also when I realized that the weird fatigue and aches and shortness of breath I'd been having might be something, as others were having it too.

Do I want it again? Really not. But mostly I don't want spreading it on my conscience.

It takes two to tango. Unvaccinated individuals and the medically frail need to take care of themselves.

NP. It takes a really crappy person to repeatedly say medically frail should take care of themselves as if most don't already. Many are literally terrified right now and still have to make doctor's appointments and go in person to get treatment. What is a parent of a two year old leukemia patient supposed to do? It is beyond callous to act this cavalier right now. You know you are wrong, you just want to justify your conscience by creating a straw man.

I would expect that they'd already be isolating, with parents being sure to get vaccinated/boosted while also wearing PPE in public.

I get it isn't a great situation to be in, but what else is there? There's always going to be COVID, and there's always going to be two year old leukemia patients.

This isn't a new issue- immunocompromised kids similarly faced risk of influenza and other respiratory diseases during flu season.

What else is there? How about some of you stop a few in person activities for a few weeks? Literally one person not going to their idiotic maskless fitness class right now can potentially stop hundreds of infections. It matters folks. Your fatalism is manufactured.

Then what? COVID will still be around after those few weeks. I honestly don't know what you're trying to accomplish. That's not going to stop infections. At most it will delay them a bit. Is that your goal?

"Flattening the curve" has been a goal since the first spike. Overflowing hospitals aren't good for anyone.

Why is it so hard for people to do something as trivial as wearing a mask?