Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't gun violence; this was a targeted assassination of a major leader because of political views. If guns were outlawed, they would have poisoned him, run him over, killed him with a knife, bomb, etc

It was with a bolt action hunting rifle, which is why these calls to link this with gun control are absurd. No one is banning bolt action hunting rifles. Even the most radical anti-gun posters would think that’d be impossible to do.

Making it legal to Open Carry on campus made this killing easier.

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One of the Turning Point founders took Russian money to push their disinformation. Defenders can stop acting like these podcaster-leaders have America’s interests at heart.

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/04/right-wing-media-group-allegedly-took-10-million-in-russian-financing-doj-indictment/

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NP


https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This sounds so fake. A transgender person running away from an assassination in Utah would stick out like a giraffe at a dog park.

Maybe the perp is not transgender himself. I think it's either a mentally ill person who espouses far-left views and seeks to take revenge for anti-transgender, anti-democratic rhetoric used by Kirk and his ilk; or a mentally ill person who espouses far-right views in disagreement with Kirk who chose to lay a false trail to hide his tracks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This sounds so fake. A transgender person running away from an assassination in Utah would stick out like a giraffe at a dog park.

IF it's true (big if), I'd suggest it's more likely to be a lone nutter who thought blaming a trans person for the shooting would further inflame passions. Remember that Charlie Manson thought he'd start a race war by murdering Hollywood celebrities. I don't believe in big conspiracy theories - but there's no limit to the twisted logic of one insane person.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those who say Charlie Lirk was a great person, nothing but respectful, only trying to do good in the world…

Do you think it’s a good thing that his organization (Turning Point USA) maintained a “Professor Watch List”? That list has led to people getting death threats and needing security to do their jobs. Would you want to be on such a list? Would that make you feel safe? Do you think putting people on a public list that results in them being targeted by unstable
individuals is a Christian thing to do?

I am really trying to understand how people can sort of paper over documented harmful actions like this. And I don’t wish to hear a whataboutism type argument about something a liberal did because that’s not the question at hand. It just seems to me that people are cherry picking certain actions and words to only paint CK in a good light simply because CK was on “their team”.

Please show us a police report describing these death threats.

Death threats at Orange Coast College, Princeton, Drexel, among others. The Drexel professor had to teach class over Zoom. An ASU professor was followed and shoved to the ground by a TPUSA cameraman, resulting in injury.

My discrimination litigator friends are up to their eyeballs in cases of tenured professors getting canned or threats from internal DEI departments or outsiders due to them being Jewish, conservative, or pro markets.

This case will be another one. As it seeks to threaten and bully away free speech and civil & open discourse.

Like an MLK assassination but if he was shot when younger with toddlers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn't gun violence; this was a targeted assassination of a major leader because of political views. If guns were outlawed, they would have poisoned him, run him over, killed him with a knife, bomb, etc

Funny because in my neighborhood nobody is talking about this assassination since nobody knows who he was and he didn't hold public office. Of course, it is sad when anybody is killed, especially a parent of young children.

Are you in an assisted living community? Funny that an entire neighborhood can be so clueless and uninformed.

It sounds like if you followed conservative influencers or religious influencers, you would know about him. If you're not in those communities, you might recognize the name, but you're not going to know who he is or look at him as any kind of leader.

I never focused on what he said or listened to his podcast but any reasonably educated person in DC knew he founded Turning Points and that was an important figure on the Right.

If you and your neighbors are clueless about who he was, it doesn't mean you are uneducated, it just means you do not have a pulse on the political landscape of the country.

I'm the PP who said nobody in my neighborhood is talking about this.

Most of my neighbors are highly educated. But no, like most people, we don't closely follow politics outside of national events and local issues. We don't claim to "have a pulse on the political landscape of the country" - we are busy working and raising our kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds so fake. A transgender person running away from an assassination in Utah would stick out like a giraffe at a dog park.

They didn’t say a transgender person. It was someone that supported anti fa and trans ideology.

This person was smart enough to execute an assassination of a celebrity speaker so I would assume he would be smart enough to blend in.

And I would assume he'd be smart enough not to leave behind a rifle with identifying symbols on it. Unless he wanted to throw people off his trail.

[Anonymous]

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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot

As the WSJ article states, it is reminiscent of the NYC executioner, Luigee Mangionee in the the ammunition in the rifle used to brutally assassinate Charlie Kirk was found to be inscribed with Antiffa and pro-transg slogans, according to WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds so fake. A transgender person running away from an assassination in Utah would stick out like a giraffe at a dog park.

And transgender wasn't even his "brand" is it? Isn't the main transgender right wing guy that Matt Walsh dweeb?

He spoke to and platformed de-transitioners.

[Anonymous]

I"m pretty sure the perp was a right win gun zealot.

[Anonymous]

I didn’t know much about Kirk. I will have to wait 24 more hours for DCUM to show me his tweets since I am not watching his videos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds so fake. A transgender person running away from an assassination in Utah would stick out like a giraffe at a dog park.

Maybe the perp is not transgender himself. I think it's either a mentally ill person who espouses far-left views and seeks to take revenge for anti-transgender, anti-democratic rhetoric used by Kirk and his ilk; or a mentally ill person who espouses far-right views in disagreement with Kirk who chose to lay a false trail to hide his tracks.

If that’s the case, Trump made it easier to get a gun in his first term.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds so fake. A transgender person running away from an assassination in Utah would stick out like a giraffe at a dog park.

They didn’t say a transgender person. It was someone that supported anti fa and trans ideology.

This person was smart enough to execute an assassination of a celebrity speaker so I would assume he would be smart enough to blend in.

And I would assume he'd be smart enough not to leave behind a rifle with identifying symbols on it. Unless he wanted to throw people off his trail.

Bingo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't gun violence; this was a targeted assassination of a major leader because of political views. If guns were outlawed, they would have poisoned him, run him over, killed him with a knife, bomb, etc

Funny because in my neighborhood nobody is talking about this assassination since nobody knows who he was and he didn't hold public office. Of course, it is sad when anybody is killed, especially a parent of young children.

Are you in an assisted living community? Funny that an entire neighborhood can be so clueless and uninformed.

It sounds like if you followed conservative influencers or religious influencers, you would know about him. If you're not in those communities, you might recognize the name, but you're not going to know who he is or look at him as any kind of leader.

+1

It's amazing how the right and left wing nut jobs don't understand that they are on an island by themselves. Normal aren't watching and listening to the crap they poison themselves with.

I don’t watch or listen, but to be unfamiliar with Kirk and TPUSA is to be pretty clueless about the current state of our country.