Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are a “Christian celebrity” you are a self-centered fake, including Shauna.
Prove me wrong.

Big time.

There’s always been grifters within the church trying to scheme for themselves power, prestige, and
wealth. It’s never about any real faith or Jesus or the gospel with these types.

It’s always only about themselves.

They used the church to promote their platforms and celebrity. It was just a convenient stepping stone.

Then, when that well dries up, they just cynically move on to another grift.

Jen at one time was a Christian mommy blogger Bible teacher church co-pastor.

Now she’s trying to be some sort of insa-lifestyle-influencer 24/7 product code shilling fool.

Where’s any of the Jen from 10 years ago? Hell, five years ago?

She’s like another person entirely. These people really are shape shifters.

I really don’t even care if she’s gone full-cringe influencer. If people want to buy MLM makeup and 2019 bias skirts and graphic tees go for it.

But Jen, don’t get self-righteous about the “toxic church” when you not only perpetuated it, you were it.

You can podcast and spin it any way you want but the truth is right there.

You are just as responsible for people leaving the church as toxic men. You. You exploit people’s desire for friendship and connection to sell smoke and mirrors. I can handle it when you sell lipgloss. I can’t when you sell Jesus.

… the entire thread sits stunned speechless then begins to clap until one by one we each stand up and as the applause swells to a roar we cry BRAVO and throw virtual red roses at your phone …

[Anonymous]

The gushing over The Tyler Merritt Project like is beyond cringe, it’s like, worrisome. Like stalkery obsessive. Do any of you know anyone else in your favcebook friends who talks about their SO like this?

Tyler if you ever see a big plexiglass cage anywhere in her house, it’s not for books. Just RUN.

[Anonymous]

I think the gushing is manipulative. It’s smarmy.

I’m just thinking about how I would feel if a man I had only know a few months long distance posted about me like that.

Couple times I’ve had someone go on and on in front of others about how amazing and wonderful I am and it’s so uncomfortably awkward that 10,000 red flags went up. It’s not normal. It’s actually controlling.

Is anyone else tracking what I’m saying?

[Anonymous]

Ohhhhhhh. Now I get it.

https://www.healthline.com/health/love-bombing#uneasiness

ARTICLE:

They can’t stop complimenting you
We all crave admiration, but constant praise can make your head spin. If someone’s expressing their undying love after just a short amount of time, it’s a potential red flag that their feelings aren’t genuine.
Some common, over-the-top phrases they might use include:
“I love everything about you.”
“I’ve never met anyone as perfect as you.”
“You’re the only person I want to spend time with.”

JEN:

“I have never, in my entire life, known anyone like him…I told him this morning that he makes SO many people happy and better and wiser and kinder. The world is wildly better for him being born into it.” "He is funny and loyal, fearless and discerning, generous and expansive. He is literally making the world better. Being in the light of his love is like a sunflower turning to the sun;
“He is worthy of me”

ARTICLE:

They try to convince you that you’re soulmates

Telling you they dreamed that God told them you two should marry is a manipulation tactic. If what they say sounds right out of a film, take heed, Westbrook notes. “Hollywood is great for entertainment, but true love and relationships don’t look like the movies.”
Some other things they might say:
“We were born to be together.”
“It’s fate that we met.”
“You understand me more than anyone.”
“We’re soulmates.”

JEN:
“I missed his first 45 birthdays but I don’t want to miss any more. Tyler and I met at the start of the second half of our lives, and turns out this half is so precious, so special. I didn’t know him as he built and grew up and evolved, and he didn’t know me, but the people we are now, the hearts we have given to each other, are the best versions of us yet.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ohhhhhhh. Now I get it.

https://www.healthline.com/health/love-bombing#uneasiness

ARTICLE:

They can’t stop complimenting you
We all crave admiration, but constant praise can make your head spin. If someone’s expressing their undying love after just a short amount of time, it’s a potential red flag that their feelings aren’t genuine.
Some common, over-the-top phrases they might use include:
“I love everything about you.”
“I’ve never met anyone as perfect as you.”
“You’re the only person I want to spend time with.”

JEN:

“I have never, in my entire life, known anyone like him…I told him this morning that he makes SO many people happy and better and wiser and kinder. The world is wildly better for him being born into it.” "He is funny and loyal, fearless and discerning, generous and expansive. He is literally making the world better. Being in the light of his love is like a sunflower turning to the sun;
“He is worthy of me”

ARTICLE:

They try to convince you that you’re soulmates

Telling you they dreamed that God told them you two should marry is a manipulation tactic. If what they say sounds right out of a film, take heed, Westbrook notes. “Hollywood is great for entertainment, but true love and relationships don’t look like the movies.”
Some other things they might say:
“We were born to be together.”
“It’s fate that we met.”
“You understand me more than anyone.”
“We’re soulmates.”

JEN:
“I missed his first 45 birthdays but I don’t want to miss any more. Tyler and I met at the start of the second half of our lives, and turns out this half is so precious, so special. I didn’t know him as he built and grew up and evolved, and he didn’t know me, but the people we are now, the hearts we have given to each other, are the best versions of us yet.”

This is so good!!!!!

I still can’t get over her “He is worthy of me” comment. Maybe that will be the title of her next book.

This is how narcissists fall in love. The love interest is perfect and a reflection of the narcissist. Everything Jen says about Tyler is really about herself. Mature, mentally healthy people don’t see other people as ALL GOOD or ALL BAD. She wants him to fulfill all her needs and show everyone how great SHE is.

[Anonymous]

Very similar trajectory as Glennon and another blogger Elizabeth someone.

[Anonymous]

Jen’s gushing lovebomb of a letter to Tyler is one of the most unsettling things I’ve ever seen. This sort of thing is barely tolerable with a middle school first crush. But a romance of two people in their mid 40s?

Run Tyler. Run.

Great article right above about how this behavior is actually highly manipulative and controlling and actually self-referential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The gushing over The Tyler Merritt Project like is beyond cringe, it’s like, worrisome. Like stalkery obsessive. Do any of you know anyone else in your favcebook friends who talks about their SO like this?

Tyler if you ever see a big plexiglass cage anywhere in her house, it’s not for books. Just RUN.

Yes yes yes! I couldn’t even read the whole thing. Wtf is wrong with people who post stuff like that? It’s insane. You look insane, Jen. Not only is it stalkery to the max, it stinks of self importance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ohhhhhhh. Now I get it.

https://www.healthline.com/health/love-bombing#uneasiness

ARTICLE:

They can’t stop complimenting you
We all crave admiration, but constant praise can make your head spin. If someone’s expressing their undying love after just a short amount of time, it’s a potential red flag that their feelings aren’t genuine.
Some common, over-the-top phrases they might use include:
“I love everything about you.”
“I’ve never met anyone as perfect as you.”
“You’re the only person I want to spend time with.”

JEN:

“I have never, in my entire life, known anyone like him…I told him this morning that he makes SO many people happy and better and wiser and kinder. The world is wildly better for him being born into it.” "He is funny and loyal, fearless and discerning, generous and expansive. He is literally making the world better. Being in the light of his love is like a sunflower turning to the sun;
“He is worthy of me”

ARTICLE:

They try to convince you that you’re soulmates

Telling you they dreamed that God told them you two should marry is a manipulation tactic. If what they say sounds right out of a film, take heed, Westbrook notes. “Hollywood is great for entertainment, but true love and relationships don’t look like the movies.”
Some other things they might say:
“We were born to be together.”
“It’s fate that we met.”
“You understand me more than anyone.”
“We’re soulmates.”

JEN:
“I missed his first 45 birthdays but I don’t want to miss any more. Tyler and I met at the start of the second half of our lives, and turns out this half is so precious, so special. I didn’t know him as he built and grew up and evolved, and he didn’t know me, but the people we are now, the hearts we have given to each other, are the best versions of us yet.”

This is so good!!!!!

I still can’t get over her “He is worthy of me” comment. Maybe that will be the title of her next book.

This is how narcissists fall in love. The love interest is perfect and a reflection of the narcissist. Everything Jen says about Tyler is really about herself. Mature, mentally healthy people don’t see other people as ALL GOOD or ALL BAD. She wants him to fulfill all her needs and show everyone how great SHE is.

Yikes. This is some creepy shit.

[Anonymous]

Me thinks the person that Jen loves most in this world is Jen.

But it’s a brittle, insecure love.

Cause deep down she knows that she’s a scheming, grasping, deeply unhappy mess with no moxie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very similar trajectory as Glennon and another blogger Elizabeth someone.

*whispers* that is because they are all insecure narcissists.

[Anonymous]

I actually think she’s (over) reacting to Tyler love-bombing her. She thinks she’s finally met the one person who loves her as much as she loves herself. Remember all those crazy obsessive things he’s said about her? So she’s basically saying she loves him so much because he thinks she’s amazing. HE’S WORTHY OF ME! 🤮

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very similar trajectory as Glennon and another blogger Elizabeth someone.

*whispers* that is because they are all insecure narcissists.

PP and Kate Gosselin! Hilarious that she and Jon had some marriage book out that they were going to promote via book tour when they either were shorted and or in midst of divorce.


But yes you sell your soul to the devil when you follow the insta/blogger/author/speaker wanna be celeb route.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think she’s (over) reacting to Tyler love-bombing her. She thinks she’s finally met the one person who loves her as much as she loves herself. Remember all those crazy obsessive things he’s said about her? So she’s basically saying she loves him so much because he thinks she’s amazing. HE’S WORTHY OF ME! 🤮

I don't see Tyler posting insanely gushy stuff on his social media feed. He seems like an authentic, nice guy who started flirting with Jen having no clue what he was getting himself into.
I am so, so sad for her. She just posted that Tyler is saving her life like she is some kind of oppressed Disney princess. I can't see her having that public meltdown that Rachel Hollis had but something is about to crack.

.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her latest Instagram post on Tyler has very “thou doth protest too much” and unhinged vibes. She comes across as unstable. She likely has no one in her life that would genuinely see that and then try to help her. She has been single for 5 seconds of her adult life and seems desperate for a redemption story and to not deal with the loss and reality she went through. She hasn’t even touched becoming a whole, healthy person on her own. Nothing about her suggests that.

Also her forced “see God gave me a partner look how everything worked out and is all better and all fresh now” alienates a ton of women who genuinely are looking for love and have been through a million times worse trauma than her and haven’t found that in their life for years. “Jen and her story takes priority everyone! Sorry guys!” -God probably lol

This part of it is especially cringey given how Tyler talked about how he was part of a healthy community of single adults prior to meeting her. Tyler had insightful things to say about that community on Glennon Doyle's podcast.

Jen nodded along the whole time in agreement, and then swiftly posts "HALLELUJAH I HAVE A MAN!" every chance she gets.