ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Zero evidence ? This is being discussed by the major organizations for club soccer. Not sure it will happen but this is a discussion happening in the soccer community in general.

The only communication about switching to SY was done my ECNL in a podcast.

No other leagues have commented.

Not sure of you know this but the president of ECNL who said “it's more likely to happen then not”. He works for us club soccer as well as their vice president of strategic affairs. So when he talks he knows the conversations that are being had not just at ECNL but on a broader soccer landscape.

Also he did not guarantee this was going to happen but also said everyone agrees a one time disruption of teams is worth it for the long term benefit of youth players

So someone from ECNL says that they want SY.

Yawn.... Wake me up when other leagues comment.

You mean someone from US club says they want school year. He technically works for both. Which isn’t a conflict of interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The tech director for my club said this is happening. Final vote in November. We should have confirmation soon.

I don’t think Tech directors really know anything for certain. As a definite position has not been decided. But it sounds like this will happen but we will find out soon enough.

correct. Final vote in November but looks kind wind is blowing towards a change as early as next year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The tech director for my club said this is happening. Final vote in November. We should have confirmation soon.

I don’t think Tech directors really know anything for certain. As a definite position has not been decided. But it sounds like this will happen but we will find out soon enough.

correct. Final vote in November but looks kind wind is blowing towards a change as early as next year

You sure? Go read cst Twitter post… seems us soccer has no interest in switching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The tech director for my club said this is happening. Final vote in November. We should have confirmation soon.

I don’t think Tech directors really know anything for certain. As a definite position has not been decided. But it sounds like this will happen but we will find out soon enough.

correct. Final vote in November but looks kind wind is blowing towards a change as early as next year

You sure? Go read cst Twitter post… seems us soccer has no interest in switching.

US soccer is not interested in changing but sounds like the majority of US youth organizations are pushing for a change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.

No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.

Fact: This change is being discussed among multiple governing bodies within youth soccer.

Fact: ECNL explicitly wants this change.

Fact: An official vote in November will likely determine the outcome.

Opinion: Will this result in a change in youth age groupings? No clue. If I were a betting man I would put the over under at 65% yes. But to say there is no evidence of a change is a blatant falsehood. Proceed to stealth group 2.

Your third fact is not a fact, but an assumption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Zero evidence ? This is being discussed by the major organizations for club soccer. Not sure it will happen but this is a discussion happening in the soccer community in general.

The only communication about switching to SY was done my ECNL in a podcast.

No other leagues have commented.

Not sure of you know this but the president of ECNL who said “it's more likely to happen then not”. He works for us club soccer as well as their vice president of strategic affairs. So when he talks he knows the conversations that are being had not just at ECNL but on a broader soccer landscape.

Also he did not guarantee this was going to happen but also said everyone agrees a one time disruption of teams is worth it for the long term benefit of youth players

So someone from ECNL says that they want SY.

Yawn.... Wake me up when other leagues comment.

You mean someone from US club says they want school year. He technically works for both. Which isn’t a conflict of interest.

He works for ECNL, he volunteers for US Club Soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The tech director for my club said this is happening. Final vote in November. We should have confirmation soon.

I don’t think Tech directors really know anything for certain. As a definite position has not been decided. But it sounds like this will happen but we will find out soon enough.

correct. Final vote in November but looks kind wind is blowing towards a change as early as next year

Things like this that are “New Business” hardly ever have “final votes” at the board meeting at which they are proposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The tech director for my club said this is happening. Final vote in November. We should have confirmation soon.

I don’t think Tech directors really know anything for certain. As a definite position has not been decided. But it sounds like this will happen but we will find out soon enough.

correct. Final vote in November but looks kind wind is blowing towards a change as early as next year

You sure? Go read cst Twitter post… seems us soccer has no interest in switching.

US soccer is not interested in changing but sounds like the majority of US youth organizations are pushing for a change.

Source for “majority of US Youth Organizations…”

AYSO literally just moved from SY to BY 2 years ago…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.

No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.

🤣🤣😆

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.

No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.

Fact: This change is being discussed among multiple governing bodies within youth soccer.

Fact: ECNL explicitly wants this change.

Fact: An official vote in November will likely determine the outcome.

Opinion: Will this result in a change in youth age groupings? No clue. If I were a betting man I would put the over under at 65% yes. But to say there is no evidence of a change is a blatant falsehood. Proceed to stealth group 2.

Your third fact is not a fact, but an assumption.

There is no offical vote in November. Where did you get that? There is a meeting. But all the feedback will not be in before the new year. Then it will be sent out for planning if they want to do it. People think you can just chnage quickly. You cannot. US Soccer has no interest so this is likely not happening in any event.

[Anonymous]

This all moved fast in 2015 if you go back to the USSF Meeting Minutes. We will see what happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.

No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.

Fact: This change is being discussed among multiple governing bodies within youth soccer.

Fact: ECNL explicitly wants this change.

Fact: An official vote in November will likely determine the outcome.

Opinion: Will this result in a change in youth age groupings? No clue. If I were a betting man I would put the over under at 65% yes. But to say there is no evidence of a change is a blatant falsehood. Proceed to stealth group 2.

Your third fact is not a fact, but an assumption.

There is no offical vote in November. Where did you get that? There is a meeting. But all the feedback will not be in before the new year. Then it will be sent out for planning if they want to do it. People think you can just chnage quickly. You cannot. US Soccer has no interest so this is likely not happening in any event.

I think everyone may be overestimating US Soccer's power over youth league rules. Yes, the "mandate" last time came from US Soccer, but the youth organizations individually decided to adopt it. US Soccer doesn't have its own youth league anymore. I'm not aware of any legal avenue US Soccer has to force its recommendations on youth leagues, or even just the "member" organizations. When people say, "US Soccer's position is that they will go with whatever the youth organizations decide," they may mean that US Soccer has no real choice but to go with what they decide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.

No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.

Fact: This change is being discussed among multiple governing bodies within youth soccer.

Fact: ECNL explicitly wants this change.

Fact: An official vote in November will likely determine the outcome.

Opinion: Will this result in a change in youth age groupings? No clue. If I were a betting man I would put the over under at 65% yes. But to say there is no evidence of a change is a blatant falsehood. Proceed to stealth group 2.

Your third fact is not a fact, but an assumption.

There is no offical vote in November. Where did you get that? There is a meeting. But all the feedback will not be in before the new year. Then it will be sent out for planning if they want to do it. People think you can just chnage quickly. You cannot. US Soccer has no interest so this is likely not happening in any event.

I think everyone may be overestimating US Soccer's power over youth league rules. Yes, the "mandate" last time came from US Soccer, but the youth organizations individually decided to adopt it. US Soccer doesn't have its own youth league anymore. I'm not aware of any legal avenue US Soccer has to force its recommendations on youth leagues, or even just the "member" organizations. When people say, "US Soccer's position is that they will go with whatever the youth organizations decide," they may mean that US Soccer has no real choice but to go with what they decide.

😂 sure, the federation has no input in the organizations it sanctions…galaxy brain!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.

No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.

Fact: This change is being discussed among multiple governing bodies within youth soccer.

Fact: ECNL explicitly wants this change.

Fact: An official vote in November will likely determine the outcome.

Opinion: Will this result in a change in youth age groupings? No clue. If I were a betting man I would put the over under at 65% yes. But to say there is no evidence of a change is a blatant falsehood. Proceed to stealth group 2.

Your third fact is not a fact, but an assumption.

There is no offical vote in November. Where did you get that? There is a meeting. But all the feedback will not be in before the new year. Then it will be sent out for planning if they want to do it. People think you can just chnage quickly. You cannot. US Soccer has no interest so this is likely not happening in any event.

I think everyone may be overestimating US Soccer's power over youth league rules. Yes, the "mandate" last time came from US Soccer, but the youth organizations individually decided to adopt it. US Soccer doesn't have its own youth league anymore. I'm not aware of any legal avenue US Soccer has to force its recommendations on youth leagues, or even just the "member" organizations. When people say, "US Soccer's position is that they will go with whatever the youth organizations decide," they may mean that US Soccer has no real choice but to go with what they decide.

😂 sure, the federation has no input in the organizations it sanctions…galaxy brain!

You'd better explain for everyone how they would sanction members for not following part of a player development initiative. As in, what's the basis for the sanction, what would that sanction be, how would USSF pressure them to stay members if they didn't accept the sanction, etc.?

[Anonymous]

ECNL can just change itself. ECNL teams do not play against other non-ECNL teams. They already have their own exclusive league games and showcases. I do not see any significant impact if they change, and it will serve their core customers much better.