ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.
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Anonymous wrote:Change will come. From SD Surf B2011 ECNL, I can see half of the players will be replaced, and 70% of the starters will be replaced by 2010 Q4 NL and RL players, plus some 2010 Q4 outsiders.


I can identify 1 2010 NL and 7 RL players (Surf has 2 RL teams) who can join the B2011 NL team and take starter positions after changing to SY. That is the main reason why Q1's parents are vehemently against it.


Yep, nailed it. They’re all terrified of this one 2010 group of 8 being turned loose and unchained to compete for rosters spots because the age cutoffs changed.

If not for the age cutoff change, these 14 year olds would have never been discovered. Hidden under 7 months of players that were worse, but better, but not really better because the birth month should be like a good handicap!


Once announced we will find out who’s actually good at soccer from the Q1/2 kids. Who have been benefiting from RAE favoritism.

If your kids can still start and play at the ECNL level with RAE not in their favor they are going to make it.


That is not how RAE works. This whole line of argument that trapped parents are making really illustrates their misunderstanding of their own child’s position. The age cut off change would take 5 years, maybe 4 at best for you to see REA shift to the new cutoff “older” kids.

RAE is about ACCUMULATED advantage, not some weird birthday favoritism by coaches. Changing the cut off date, doesn’t remove the accumulated advantage, that will take time to work out of the system with the cohorts that are just entering.
Agreed that there are cumulated effects. But not making an argument for or against SY or CY, who would you place your bet on in a U14 vs U15 team in a game where they both have the same national ranking in their respective age groups?

Now you're showing that you don't understand how rankings work.

If 2 teams have the same ranking, they play against the same-ish teams, and the predicted win/loss is even it doesn't matter how old or young the players are.

Math is telling you that the game is a coin flip.
You going to have to reread the question to have an accurate response.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.


No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.


No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.


Not all heroes wear capes
Anonymous
Zero evidence ? This is being discussed by the major organizations for club soccer. Not sure it will happen but this is a discussion happening in the soccer community in general.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Zero evidence ? This is being discussed by the major organizations for club soccer. Not sure it will happen but this is a discussion happening in the soccer community in general.


The only communication about switching to SY was done my ECNL in a podcast.

No other leagues have commented.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.


No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.

Ok, your in Camp 2.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Zero evidence ? This is being discussed by the major organizations for club soccer. Not sure it will happen but this is a discussion happening in the soccer community in general.


The only communication about switching to SY was done my ECNL in a podcast.

No other leagues have commented.


Not sure of you know this but the president of ECNL who said “it's more likely to happen then not”. He works for us club soccer as well as their vice president of strategic affairs. So when he talks he knows the conversations that are being had not just at ECNL but on a broader soccer landscape.

Also he did not guarantee this was going to happen but also said everyone agrees a one time disruption of teams is worth it for the long term benefit of youth players
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.


No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.



You may now proceed to Camp #2.
Anonymous
From a friend of mine who is on the board for one of the bigger soccer governing bodies.

“Part of leadership is evaluating the current situation to determine the best path forward for the players and being openminded to change”.

So this is definitely being discussed internally.
Anonymous
I also heard on ticktock
Anonymous
The tech director for my club said this is happening. Final vote in November. We should have confirmation soon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is ECNL moving to school year in 2025/2026 season? I have a currently U12 kid who could be impacted.


No. To summarize all 100+ pages. This is all speculated on rumors and nonsensical replies.
-Camp 1 will say anything to make people believe this is true and happening by perpetuating rumors and fabricating proof.
-Camp 2 will say anything to make people believe this is not true and refute everything posted by Camp1.
-Camp 3 tries to inject logic, but they are quickly out-posted by Camp 1 and then out-posted by Camp 2 refuting Camp 1 posts.
-Camp 4 are casual posters who see there are so many posts, then think this must be true. Don't fall into Camp 4, this is what Camp 1 posters want.

There is absolutely zero evidence this will change next year or in the near future.

But this thread has a lot of action. In fact, this post will be attacked and overwhelmed by so many posts, that this time next week, it will be buried 10 pages deep.



Fact: This change is being discussed among multiple governing bodies within youth soccer.

Fact: ECNL explicitly wants this change.

Fact: An official vote in November will likely determine the outcome.

Opinion: Will this result in a change in youth age groupings? No clue. If I were a betting man I would put the over under at 65% yes. But to say there is no evidence of a change is a blatant falsehood. Proceed to stealth group 2.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The tech director for my club said this is happening. Final vote in November. We should have confirmation soon.


I don’t think Tech directors really know anything for certain. As a definite position has not been decided. But it sounds like this will happen but we will find out soon enough.
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Anonymous wrote:Zero evidence ? This is being discussed by the major organizations for club soccer. Not sure it will happen but this is a discussion happening in the soccer community in general.


The only communication about switching to SY was done my ECNL in a podcast.

No other leagues have commented.


Not sure of you know this but the president of ECNL who said “it's more likely to happen then not”. He works for us club soccer as well as their vice president of strategic affairs. So when he talks he knows the conversations that are being had not just at ECNL but on a broader soccer landscape.

Also he did not guarantee this was going to happen but also said everyone agrees a one time disruption of teams is worth it for the long term benefit of youth players

So someone from ECNL says that they want SY.

Yawn.... Wake me up when other leagues comment.
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