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For the people pointing to Vienna's small 16K population, I think that's just an excuse. VYS may be named after the town of Vienna, but there's no reason why their player pool should be limited to the town of Vienna. That whole area around Vienna is densely populated and VYS should be able to draw many players into their club if they've stopped the "Vienna means Vienna" mentality.
Someone said VYS doesn't have a "rec" program -- not sure what was meant by that, but VYS does indeed run a pretty good House soccer program, which is what I consider "rec" soccer. |
Are you talking about boys or girls? As a parent with kids in Vienna’s uLittle teams, I can assure you their 2-4th teams are plenty competitive in NCSL, at least on the girl’s side. They regularly beat McLean, Bethesda, Arlington, Alexandria, etc. NCSL has standings and results up for uLittles for a while (since erased) where people could see this. |
Talking about the boys. The girl's program is better than the boys. |
Depends on the age (top boys were stronger for a couple of age groups than top girls), and in any event, Arlington, Bethesda and Alexandria top teams are not in the NCSL. For Arlington and Bethesda, you are playing their third or fourth teams, and for Alexandria, their second teams. Don't get carried away with those U9-10 results in any league, but especially when you are bragging about beating lower teams. |
Yep. and your second teams are playing their fourth, fifth and sixth teams in some cases. |
VYS’ uLittle top teams are not in NCSL either. I’m talking about apples to apples, 2nd team from one club playing second team from another, or third team from one club playing third team from another. Ie VYS black and white against McLean Green and Gold. VYS black against Alexandria white. Someone earlier said VYS drops off after the first team more than other clubs, and I can say from watching many of these games, that for uLittle girls, their 2nd and 3rd teams are regularly beating larger clubs’ 2nd and third teams. So this isn’t the case if you’re actually watching those games. For Arlington specifically, because their top 2 clubs are CCL, yes, it’s VYS’ 2nd team beating their 3rd. I don’t know what VYS’ 2nd team against their 2nd would look like since they’re in different leagues. |
Can you show me a scheduled game where this is true? The times I have seen 4th or 5th teams play, it has been in ODSL, and none of VYS’ 2nd teams even play in ODSL. |
Yesterday, Arlington U13 boys 4th team beat Vienna 3rd team 4-0. |
OK, VYS 2011 Red is playing third teams from Arlington and Alexandria (Blues). http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/_element_display/#%2F80738%2Fteams%2F98944822%2F96312036-98944979%2FTEAM.html%3Frnd%3D1603133955671 2011 Black playing Arlington and Alexandria fourth teams. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/_element_display/#%2F80738%2Fteams%2F98944822%2F96312068-98944979%2FTEAM.html%3Frnd%3D1603134162583 VYS 2010 Black playing Arlington fourth team and Alexandria third team. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/_element_display/#%2F80738%2Fteams%2F98944822%2F92720339-98944952%2FTEAM.html%3Frnd%3D1603134056992 |
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Hate this whole Blue/Gold/White/Red/Black nonsense ... adds one more layer of obfuscation as to which level team you're playing against. I guess #1, #2, #3 ... or A, B, C would be too easy.
All the teams are guilty of this. |
It's only not to hurt the parent's feelings. Correct 1,2,3 would be much easier for comparison. The kids know which team they belong to. No need to hide it with club colors. For example Arlington top color is Red (i know ecnl is top) but their primary uniform color is blue and away is white. |
Interesting. For the 2010 girls, VYS’ 2nd team (black) plays Arlington’s 3rd team (blue) and our 3rd team (white) plays Alexandria’s 2nd team (white) and Arlington’s 4th team (black). http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/_element_display/#%2F80738%2Fteams%2F98944822%2F92746293-98945000%2FTEAM.html%3Frnd%3D1603141437646 For the 2011 girls, VYS’ 2nd team does play Arlington’s 4th team (black) and it looks like that happens in a number of other age groups. I’ll grant you VYS 2nd playing Arlington 4th, but I couldn’t find a VYS 2nd team playing Arlington Gold or Silver. |
Didn't the 06 boys team win their Jeff Cup bracket? |
| There is no "seeding" in NCSL until U11 Spring Season. Its random outside of that. VYS Silver Team was matched up with the #1 seed from some other clubs and got hammered where as the VYS Red team somehow had lower seeds. |
If they did, it was an extremely low division/flight. |