War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

As long as Witkoff, Kushner, and Trump are involved nothing will be resolved. We are stuck in this war until there’s a new cabinet with serious representatives involved. Trump is going to sabotage any progress as he can’t keep his mouth shut or stop typing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chris Murphy is disgusting.

It’s not false. It’s confirmed that 26 ships snuck past the USA blockade.

https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1156966/At-least-26-Iranian-shadow-fleet-vessels-bypass-US-blockade

And frankly, for those of us who protest the war, it’s interesting to see Trump getting his comeuppance

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Anonymous wrote:We all seem to feel helpless, we don’t want this war. What can we do?

I dunno. Maybe not vote for Republicans. All of them will start dumb wars in the Middle East regardless of what they say. Republicans are the warmongering party. Every single one of them wants to send soldiers to die for some Emir.

Unfortunately both parties are the never ending war parties.
It’s baked into the system.

Wake me up when a democrat is responsible for iran, Iraq or Afghanistan and the corresponding prolonged wars.

Sure, Clinton helped the muslims in yugoslavia - that wasn't a prolonged US war; and Obama sent some troops to Syria, but how many, under 2,000? That isn't really a war.

Clinton. Kosovo,Bosnia,Haiti,Somalia
Obama. Libya, Syria
Biden. Ukraine ( Proxy war)
And continued or expanded wars started by Republicans in Iraq and Afghanistan.

GMAFB. If Libya and Syria are "never ending wars," how on earth do you manage to make it to the weekend?

It’s fair to call any conflict longer than a world war a forever war.

The only thing team D has going for them is their forever wars are smaller.

You are not a serious person.

I guess we can close our bases in Kosovo and Syria then, since those conflicts are over…

Those bases allow us to project power. Why would we close them? Do you seriously think we use them solely for campaigns within Kosovo and Syria?

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we sending Rubio? Isn't he United States's Secretary of State or got fired? Why are we sending friends and family to negotiate WW3?

Rubio is checked out. Look at his eyes. He's dead inside. And the Trump and Netanyahu people want Kushner and Witkoff to be the primary negotiators. For reasons. Vance is only there because Iranians insisted on it.

Kushner and witkoff are both Jewish and should not be ambassadors of anything related to a war their ethnicity is obviously devoted to. That’s like sending Colonel sanders to be the ambassador for peta. It’s well known Netanyahu doesn’t like Vance or Rubio. That’s why they’re iced out of the process even though they are higher up the chain of command. Jared Kushner does not have any experience nor was he ever elected to represent the US. He never faced a senate confirmation hearing. Who is he to have all this power? Democrats should send him to jail but they’re useless and in bed with the same people

Good lord, why TF would Bibi have any issues with Rubio?!

The guy dutifully followed the anti-semitism witch hunt script like he was hell bent on making First Team, All Mensch. Guy lashed out at journalists who questioned why the U.S. was violating the constitutional rights of protesters to suppress their right to exercise free speech regarding Israel. I’m sure he even kissed the wall like a good little Israel First cuck.

What more does Bibi want from him?

Rubio and Vance had reservations about this war. I think both Vance and Rubio want to be president and know this war is political suicide

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we sending Rubio? Isn't he United States's Secretary of State or got fired? Why are we sending friends and family to negotiate WW3?

Rubio is checked out. Look at his eyes. He's dead inside. And the Trump and Netanyahu people want Kushner and Witkoff to be the primary negotiators. For reasons. Vance is only there because Iranians insisted on it.

Kushner and witkoff are both Jewish and should not be ambassadors of anything related to a war their ethnicity is obviously devoted to. That’s like sending Colonel sanders to be the ambassador for peta. It’s well known Netanyahu doesn’t like Vance or Rubio. That’s why they’re iced out of the process even though they are higher up the chain of command. Jared Kushner does not have any experience nor was he ever elected to represent the US. He never faced a senate confirmation hearing. Who is he to have all this power? Democrats should send him to jail but they’re useless and in bed with the same people

Good lord, why TF would Bibi have any issues with Rubio?!

The guy dutifully followed the anti-semitism witch hunt script like he was hell bent on making First Team, All Mensch. Guy lashed out at journalists who questioned why the U.S. was violating the constitutional rights of protesters to suppress their right to exercise free speech regarding Israel. I’m sure he even kissed the wall like a good little Israel First cuck.

What more does Bibi want from him?

Rubio and Vance had reservations about this war. I think both Vance and Rubio want to be president and know this war is political suicide

Despite my reservations regarding these attacks, if this thing peters out in a few weeks, it will be mostly forgotten in a couple years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's going to happen when Iran takes out a couple navy destroyers?

I don’t think they need to. Iran already did enough damage to the Us, Israeli, and global economy with just minimal force. The word ceasefire did not come from Iran. It came from the US which means we lost/are waving the white flag after we started the war.

This is not a new thing. This is a known Israel tactic too. The ceasefires are a way of admitting they lost or can’t actually get rid of the regime or group they want to get rid of. It’s also never a real ceasefire because hostilities and bombings never stop. These groups have a itchy trigger finger and thirst for destruction like a fly to shit

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Anonymous wrote:We all seem to feel helpless, we don’t want this war. What can we do?

I dunno. Maybe not vote for Republicans. All of them will start dumb wars in the Middle East regardless of what they say. Republicans are the warmongering party. Every single one of them wants to send soldiers to die for some Emir.

Unfortunately both parties are the never ending war parties.
It’s baked into the system.

Wake me up when a democrat is responsible for iran, Iraq or Afghanistan and the corresponding prolonged wars.

Sure, Clinton helped the muslims in yugoslavia - that wasn't a prolonged US war; and Obama sent some troops to Syria, but how many, under 2,000? That isn't really a war.

Clinton. Kosovo,Bosnia,Haiti,Somalia
Obama. Libya, Syria
Biden. Ukraine ( Proxy war)
And continued or expanded wars started by Republicans in Iraq and Afghanistan.

GMAFB. If Libya and Syria are "never ending wars," how on earth do you manage to make it to the weekend?

It’s fair to call any conflict longer than a world war a forever war.

The only thing team D has going for them is their forever wars are smaller.

You are not a serious person.

I guess we can close our bases in Kosovo and Syria then, since those conflicts are over…

Those bases allow us to project power. Why would we close them? Do you seriously think we use them solely for campaigns within Kosovo and Syria?

DP Those bases are there for Israel’s protection at great cost to the US. Israel and its endless wars. In Israel a PM is safe if he or she starts or continues a war. If he or she enter negotiations for a peaceful solution they will be in trouble and removed from power.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we sending Rubio? Isn't he United States's Secretary of State or got fired? Why are we sending friends and family to negotiate WW3?

Rubio is checked out. Look at his eyes. He's dead inside. And the Trump and Netanyahu people want Kushner and Witkoff to be the primary negotiators. For reasons. Vance is only there because Iranians insisted on it.

Kushner and witkoff are both Jewish and should not be ambassadors of anything related to a war their ethnicity is obviously devoted to. That’s like sending Colonel sanders to be the ambassador for peta. It’s well known Netanyahu doesn’t like Vance or Rubio. That’s why they’re iced out of the process even though they are higher up the chain of command. Jared Kushner does not have any experience nor was he ever elected to represent the US. He never faced a senate confirmation hearing. Who is he to have all this power? Democrats should send him to jail but they’re useless and in bed with the same people

Good lord, why TF would Bibi have any issues with Rubio?!

The guy dutifully followed the anti-semitism witch hunt script like he was hell bent on making First Team, All Mensch. Guy lashed out at journalists who questioned why the U.S. was violating the constitutional rights of protesters to suppress their right to exercise free speech regarding Israel. I’m sure he even kissed the wall like a good little Israel First cuck.

What more does Bibi want from him?

Rubio and Vance had reservations about this war. I think both Vance and Rubio want to be president and know this war is political suicide

Despite my reservations regarding these attacks, if this thing peters out in a few weeks, it will be mostly forgotten in a couple years.

DP. No. This has changed the balance of power in the world, the ME, Israel as a domestic issue in the US and energy markets. There is little chance the US will have any bases in the region within 5 years. The US gets little of its oil from the region and selling these expensive bases for the protection of Israel is a nonstarter. The US will be crippled if the petrodollar ends.

Other countries see how well China is weathering this oil shock and will set policies in place to reduce dependence on ME oil. This war will be seen as a pivotal moment where China became the new leader in the world and the US lost its way.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we sending Rubio? Isn't he United States's Secretary of State or got fired? Why are we sending friends and family to negotiate WW3?

Rubio is checked out. Look at his eyes. He's dead inside. And the Trump and Netanyahu people want Kushner and Witkoff to be the primary negotiators. For reasons. Vance is only there because Iranians insisted on it.

Kushner and witkoff are both Jewish and should not be ambassadors of anything related to a war their ethnicity is obviously devoted to. That’s like sending Colonel sanders to be the ambassador for peta. It’s well known Netanyahu doesn’t like Vance or Rubio. That’s why they’re iced out of the process even though they are higher up the chain of command. Jared Kushner does not have any experience nor was he ever elected to represent the US. He never faced a senate confirmation hearing. Who is he to have all this power? Democrats should send him to jail but they’re useless and in bed with the same people

Being Jewish isn't the issue. Being unelected, untrained and not even government employeers or appointees, is the issue.

You act like they are making decisions without consulting the president. They aren’t.

They are reporting to Bibi not Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chris Murphy is disgusting.

This has been the back ground chatter since the blockade was implemented. Iranian ships are getting through in massive numbers. US warships are staying 500 miles off the coast of Iran and do not have the air assets to cover the area. There are plenty of holes in the blockade.

It is worrisome that you think truth telling is disguising. The Trump and Hegseth lie about everything. Some day you will wake up. This is not a US war but an Israeli war.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we sending Rubio? Isn't he United States's Secretary of State or got fired? Why are we sending friends and family to negotiate WW3?

Rubio is checked out. Look at his eyes. He's dead inside. And the Trump and Netanyahu people want Kushner and Witkoff to be the primary negotiators. For reasons. Vance is only there because Iranians insisted on it.

Kushner and witkoff are both Jewish and should not be ambassadors of anything related to a war their ethnicity is obviously devoted to. That’s like sending Colonel sanders to be the ambassador for peta. It’s well known Netanyahu doesn’t like Vance or Rubio. That’s why they’re iced out of the process even though they are higher up the chain of command. Jared Kushner does not have any experience nor was he ever elected to represent the US. He never faced a senate confirmation hearing. Who is he to have all this power? Democrats should send him to jail but they’re useless and in bed with the same people

Good lord, why TF would Bibi have any issues with Rubio?!

The guy dutifully followed the anti-semitism witch hunt script like he was hell bent on making First Team, All Mensch. Guy lashed out at journalists who questioned why the U.S. was violating the constitutional rights of protesters to suppress their right to exercise free speech regarding Israel. I’m sure he even kissed the wall like a good little Israel First cuck.

What more does Bibi want from him?

Rubio and Vance had reservations about this war. I think both Vance and Rubio want to be president and know this war is political suicide

Despite my reservations regarding these attacks, if this thing peters out in a few weeks, it will be mostly forgotten in a couple years.

Haha no. The gas prices and fuel prices will only have returned to normal worldwide in a few years. Thats a lot of angry people at the USA.

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Anonymous wrote:Chris Murphy is disgusting.

It's called "sarcasm". I guess it's only ok when Trump does it.

Why should we believe Chris Murphy when it comes to Iran?

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Anonymous wrote:Chris Murphy is disgusting.

It’s not false. It’s confirmed that 26 ships snuck past the USA blockade.

https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1156966/At-least-26-Iranian-shadow-fleet-vessels-bypass-US-blockade

And frankly, for those of us who protest the war, it’s interesting to see Trump getting his comeuppance

Nope.
I believe Trey Yingst who has impeccable reporting from the ME.

And, your source is questionable, given this.....

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Anonymous wrote:We all seem to feel helpless, we don’t want this war. What can we do?

I dunno. Maybe not vote for Republicans. All of them will start dumb wars in the Middle East regardless of what they say. Republicans are the warmongering party. Every single one of them wants to send soldiers to die for some Emir.

Unfortunately both parties are the never ending war parties.
It’s baked into the system.

Wake me up when a democrat is responsible for iran, Iraq or Afghanistan and the corresponding prolonged wars.

Sure, Clinton helped the muslims in yugoslavia - that wasn't a prolonged US war; and Obama sent some troops to Syria, but how many, under 2,000? That isn't really a war.

Clinton. Kosovo,Bosnia,Haiti,Somalia
Obama. Libya, Syria
Biden. Ukraine ( Proxy war)
And continued or expanded wars started by Republicans in Iraq and Afghanistan.

GMAFB. If Libya and Syria are "never ending wars," how on earth do you manage to make it to the weekend?

It’s fair to call any conflict longer than a world war a forever war.

The only thing team D has going for them is their forever wars are smaller.

You are not a serious person.

I guess we can close our bases in Kosovo and Syria then, since those conflicts are over…

Those bases allow us to project power. Why would we close them? Do you seriously think we use them solely for campaigns within Kosovo and Syria?

That sounds exactly like the thinking that leads us into forever wars/forever occupations/forever police actions or whatever you want to call them. Were you originally arguing that Democrats don't do this?

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Anonymous wrote:Chris Murphy is disgusting.

It’s not false. It’s confirmed that 26 ships snuck past the USA blockade.

https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1156966/At-least-26-Iranian-shadow-fleet-vessels-bypass-US-blockade

And frankly, for those of us who protest the war, it’s interesting to see Trump getting his comeuppance

Nope.
I believe Trey Yingst who has impeccable reporting from the ME.

And, your source is questionable, given this.....

Really! Trey Yingst reporting from Tel Aviv for Fox News has the true story!

Trey only pushes Israel propaganda.