Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

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He definitely resisted. There was a lot of wrestling going on for there to be no resisting.

He's not resisting. He is crouching in self defense as he is being sprayed, and beaten.

They were literally pistol whipping the man. Are officers even supposed to do that? He was on the ground and probably disoriented.

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These sources all believe this is going to end up being what they call a “bad shoot”, a “shitty” situation that happened in seconds where agents likely heard “gun!”, then the disarmed firearm may have had an accidental discharge that spooked the agents, and they shot. The agents do not have the luxury of multiple slow motion angles - and had to make split second decisions.

That's what I've been saying. Not that I believe it, but that's what they are pushing now.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.

That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.

So you're saying that ICE are such f--kups that if a car backfires nearby, or someone drops a mug of coffee on concrete, they'll empty a couple of rounds into someone?

Why are they allowed to carry guns again?

Did a car back fire? Did a coffee cup break? Or did an Sig 9 mm go off? Details matter, sweetie.

Wouldn’t there be a loose bullet or the shell around the scene to prove this theory?

[Anonymous]

This isn’t going to stop until we get the madman out of office, and have new leadership in place. We all know it. Beats me why any Republican would stand in support of this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.

That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.

So you're saying that ICE are such f--kups that if a car backfires nearby, or someone drops a mug of coffee on concrete, they'll empty a couple of rounds into someone?

Why are they allowed to carry guns again?

Did a car back fire? Did a coffee cup break? Or did an Sig 9 mm go off? Details matter, sweetie.

Wouldn’t there be a loose bullet or the shell around the scene to prove this theory?

What scene? DHS did everything they could to erase it. They took people's phones. They took witnesses to Whipple.

[Anonymous]

Heartbreaking statement from Pretti’s parents

"Please get the truth out about our son. He was a good man."

Statement from Michael and Susan Pretti, parents of Alex Pretti, the 37-year-old ICU nurse who was shot and killed by a border patrol agent in Minneapolis on Saturday, January 24.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t going to stop until we get the madman out of office, and have new leadership in place. We all know it. Beats me why any Republican would stand in support of this.

Because all they care about is staying in office.

Also MAGA threatens their families if they cross Trump.

[Anonymous]

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He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

Could you please show the copy of the permit for that protest?

What!?
Wrong country, dude. Americans don’t need a permit to protest. It’s protected constitutional speech.

If your protests blocks the traffic, permits generally required. The guy was not on a sidewalk, he was in the middle of the road. That is why I asked if he obtained a permit for protesting.

It's not that kind of protest. You are thinking of the ones that are organized in advance, where people march from point A to point B. Those require permits.

Protesting something in the moment is different.

And sure, if he is jaywalking, that's technically illegal, and the city cops could write him a ticket. Is that what you are arguing?

Okay, so even if he jaywalked, and even if he should have had a permit but didn't, does that merit being killed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

Could you please show the copy of the permit for that protest?

What!?
Wrong country, dude. Americans don’t need a permit to protest. It’s protected constitutional speech.

If your protests blocks the traffic, permits generally required. The guy was not on a sidewalk, he was in the middle of the road. That is why I asked if he obtained a permit for protesting.

It's not that kind of protest. You are thinking of the ones that are organized in advance, where people march from point A to point B. Those require permits.

Protesting something in the moment is different.

And sure, if he is jaywalking, that's technically illegal, and the city cops could write him a ticket. Is that what you are arguing?

Okay, so even if he jaywalked, and even if he should have had a permit but didn't, does that merit being killed?

Shot in the back from point blank range to be specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

Could you please show the copy of the permit for that protest?

What!?
Wrong country, dude. Americans don’t need a permit to protest. It’s protected constitutional speech.

For the millionth time, he wasn’t protesting. He was being an observer. Documenting ICEs actions. But yeah, they also don’t need a permit to protest under a certain amount of people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.

That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.

So you're saying that ICE are such f--kups that if a car backfires nearby, or someone drops a mug of coffee on concrete, they'll empty a couple of rounds into someone?

Why are they allowed to carry guns again?

Did a car back fire? Did a coffee cup break? Or did a Sig 9 mm go off? Details matter, sweetie.

I don't know, big guy, but it sounds like they are pretty easily triggered. Maybe they need a safe space to calm down a bit, donchaknow?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

Could you please show the copy of the permit for that protest?

What!?
Wrong country, dude. Americans don’t need a permit to protest. It’s protected constitutional speech.

If your protests blocks the traffic, permits generally required. The guy was not on a sidewalk, he was in the middle of the road. That is why I asked if he obtained a permit for protesting.

He was not protesting, he was just filming from a distance. He then walked closer and came to the aid of two women who were also filming, only filming, when one was pushed to the ground by one agent. He helped her up, and was immediately and severely attacked by this same agent, completely unprovoked and with his back turned! At that point he was blind and in pain! Same agent struck him repeatedly in the head. And shot him when another had already disarmed him. There is no way to spin this, none.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.

That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.

So you're saying that ICE are such f--kups that if a car backfires nearby, or someone drops a mug of coffee on concrete, they'll empty a couple of rounds into someone?

Why are they allowed to carry guns again?

Did a car back fire? Did a coffee cup break? Or did an Sig 9 mm go off? Details matter, sweetie.

Or d. Their Dumba55 colleague shot an unarmed icu nurse who was prone on the ground with 5 armed idiots on top of him?

[Anonymous]

It is a good night to watch the movie "Grand Budapest Hotel". The death of M. Gustav bears striking similaritiex to that of Pretti. It is how gentlemen die. Regarding Gustav's sacrifice, Zero says "There are still faint glimmers of
civilization left in this barbaric
slaughterhouse that was once known as
humanity."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t going to stop until we get the madman out of office, and have new leadership in place. We all know it. Beats me why any Republican would stand in support of this.

Because all they care about is staying in office.

Also MAGA threatens their families if they cross Trump.

We, The People, need to show them that we far outnumber the mentally unstable
MAGAs