Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a cry for help from the few people at DHS who actually know what they’re doing, sent to the absolute fools like Noem and her bang buddy Corey Lewandowski who are insisting on performative bullsh!t. Communicated through THE Fox News reporter on immigration who’s followed by all MAGA.

Interesting.

Thanks for posting. Click on the link and click on the bio. I’ve never heard of this guy, but he seems like a real reporter.

[Anonymous]

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He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

Could you please show the copy of the permit for that protest?

What!?
Wrong country, dude. Americans don’t need a permit to protest. It’s protected constitutional speech.

If your protests blocks the traffic, permits generally required. The guy was not on a sidewalk, he was in the middle of the road. That is why I asked if he obtained a permit for protesting.

We’ve gotten to be point that the pro-Nazi comments are practically satire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

He definitely resisted. There was a lot of wrestling going on for there to be no resisting.

Serious question: if you were being thrown to ground while getting sh|t beat out of you, do you think you'll be able to restrain any instincts to protect your head and just let it happen?

That's not resisting. He never had the opportunity to resist. They tackled and shot him before he had that chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a cry for help from the few people at DHS who actually know what they’re doing, sent to the absolute fools like Noem and her bang buddy Corey Lewandowski who are insisting on performative bullsh!t. Communicated through THE Fox News reporter on immigration who’s followed by all MAGA.

Interesting.

I actually think they might just pull out of Minneapolis. The administration lost this battle brutally.

That’s what polls show.
https://x.com/rpsagainsttrump/status/2015567988892594481?s=46

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a cry for help from the few people at DHS who actually know what they’re doing, sent to the absolute fools like Noem and her bang buddy Corey Lewandowski who are insisting on performative bullsh!t. Communicated through THE Fox News reporter on immigration who’s followed by all MAGA.

Interesting.

I actually think they might just pull out of Minneapolis. The administration lost this battle brutally.

That’s what polls show.
https://x.com/rpsagainsttrump/status/2015567988892594481?s=46

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a cry for help from the few people at DHS who actually know what they’re doing, sent to the absolute fools like Noem and her bang buddy Corey Lewandowski who are insisting on performative bullsh!t. Communicated through THE Fox News reporter on immigration who’s followed by all MAGA.

Interesting.

I actually think they might just pull out of Minneapolis. The administration lost this battle brutally.

We’ll know for sure if Trump says that he doesn’t know who Noem and/or Miller is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a cry for help from the few people at DHS who actually know what they’re doing, sent to the absolute fools like Noem and her bang buddy Corey Lewandowski who are insisting on performative bullsh!t. Communicated through THE Fox News reporter on immigration who’s followed by all MAGA.

Interesting.

I actually think they might just pull out of Minneapolis. The administration lost this battle brutally.

We’ll know for sure if Trump says that he doesn’t know who Noem and/or Miller is.

He will never turn on Miller.

He couldn’t care less about nome and bondi

[Anonymous]

At the end of the day, I think most Americans are of the mindset that they want border control and violent criminals deported, but they don’t want a paramilitary masked secret police who film you for a database and detain and beat up citizens. That is some North Korea totalitarian type stuff. The immigration situation isn’t good, but it is not that bad that we need to resort to these tactics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, I think most Americans are of the mindset that they want border control and violent criminals deported, but they don’t want a paramilitary masked secret police who film you for a database and detain and beat up citizens. That is some North Korea totalitarian type stuff. The immigration situation isn’t good, but it is not that bad that we need to resort to these tactics.

Also nobody wants a government who lies. This wasn’t the typical mislead or redirect that politicians do. They straight up lied this time with video evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, I think most Americans are of the mindset that they want border control and violent criminals deported, but they don’t want a paramilitary masked secret police who film you for a database and detain and beat up citizens. That is some North Korea totalitarian type stuff. The immigration situation isn’t good, but it is not that bad that we need to resort to these tactics.

How about offering to stop the paramilitary stuff in a state if that state turns over its voter rolls? Is it at that point of bad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a cry for help from the few people at DHS who actually know what they’re doing, sent to the absolute fools like Noem and her bang buddy Corey Lewandowski who are insisting on performative bullsh!t. Communicated through THE Fox News reporter on immigration who’s followed by all MAGA.

Interesting.

Thanks for posting. Click on the link and click on the bio. I’ve never heard of this guy, but he seems like a real reporter.

I don’t read him either but he’s the Bible for the mass deportations crowd going back to the caravans conveniently timed right before elections. Usually someone who just reports exactly what the administration says and nothing else. Apparently his best is Congress and not immigration any longer but EVERYONE who matters is going to see this and it’s the kind of thing that makes Trump finally think things look too bad to continue.

Here’s the whole thing:
NEW: Since yesterday's deadly shooting in MN, I've talked to more than half a dozen federal sources involved immigration enforcement, including several in senior positions, who all tell me they have grown increasingly uneasy & frustrated w/ some of the claims & narratives DHS pushed in the aftermath of the shooting.

Specifically, I'm told there is extreme frustration with DHS officials going on TV and putting out statements claiming that Alex Pretti was intending to conduct a "massacre" of federal agents or wanted to carry out "maximum damage", even after numerous videos appeared to show those claims were inaccurate. While they say it was a terrible decision to show up with a gun and inject himself into a federal law enforcement operation, there is no indication Pretti was there to murder law enforcement, as videos appear to show he never drew his holstered firearm.

These sources say this messaging from DHS officials has been catastrophic from a PR and morale perspective, as it is eroding trust and credibility - comparing it to when Democrats falsely claimed the border was closed or that Haitians were being whipped at the border.

Some of these sources have described DHS’ response to the shooting as “a case study on how not to do crisis PR”, one said they are so “fed up” that they wish they could retire, another said “DHS is making the situation worse”, and another added that “DHS is wrong” and “we are losing this war, we are losing the base and the narrative."

These sources all believe this is going to end up being what they call a “bad shoot”, a “shitty” situation that happened in seconds where agents likely heard “gun!”, then the disarmed firearm may have had an accidental discharge that spooked the agents, and they shot. The agents do not have the luxury of multiple slow motion angles - and had to make split second decisions.

All of the sources support the mass deportation agenda, but have serious hesitations about the way it is being carried out and the messaging that comes with it. Many of the sources have expressed frustration that ICE is routinely blamed for the actions of Border Patrol, a completely separate agency.

I reached out to DHS for comment on concerns that their rhetoric and comments have damaged their credibility.

DHS provided the following statement to @FoxNews:

“We have seen a highly coordinated campaign of violence against our law enforcement. This individual committed a federal crime while armed as he obstructed an active law enforcement operation. As with any situation that is evolving, we work to give swift, accurate information to the American people as more information becomes available."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
He definitely resisted. There was a lot of wrestling going on for there to be no resisting.

He's not resisting. He is crouching in self defense as he is being sprayed, and beaten.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.

That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.

So you're saying that ICE are such f--kups that if a car backfires nearby, or someone drops a mug of coffee on concrete, they'll empty a couple of rounds into someone?

Why are they allowed to carry guns again?

Did a car back fire? Did a coffee cup break? Or did a Sig 9 mm go off? Details matter, sweetie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, I think most Americans are of the mindset that they want border control and violent criminals deported, but they don’t want a paramilitary masked secret police who film you for a database and detain and beat up citizens. That is some North Korea totalitarian type stuff. The immigration situation isn’t good, but it is not that bad that we need to resort to these tactics.

If only everyone had noticed that Trump was dedicated to this policy during the campaign and not voted for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

He definitely resisted. There was a lot of wrestling going on for there to be no resisting.

A full can of pepper spray in the face from point blank. Shoved to the concrete. Pistol whipped in the face and multiple people kneeling on him. Then he was shot point blank in the back at least three times.

That's not resistance that's an execution (and at least 5 acts of gross negligence not including the murder).