Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

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Anonymous wrote:Republican Senator up for reelection this year

Vote him out for that shameful asterisk.

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He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

Could you please show the copy of the permit for that protest?

What!?
Wrong country, dude. Americans don’t need a permit to protest. It’s protected constitutional speech.

If your protests blocks the traffic, permits generally required. The guy was not on a sidewalk, he was in the middle of the road. That is why I asked if he obtained a permit for protesting.

He was not protesting, he was just filming from a distance. He then walked closer and came to the aid of two women who were also filming, only filming, when one was pushed to the ground by one agent. He helped her up, and was immediately and severely attacked by this same agent, completely unprovoked and with his back turned! At that point he was blind and in pain! Same agent struck him repeatedly in the head. And shot him when another had already disarmed him. There is no way to spin this, none.

I am reminded again of the thousands of ERs around the country that deal with combative, aggressive, and unrestrained people actually trying to kill the staff, and some of whom have weapons (even guns, if they were not properly searched, which happens more than it should) -- and they somehow manage not to kill them, no matter what noises go off around them.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.

That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.

So you're saying that ICE are such f--kups that if a car backfires nearby, or someone drops a mug of coffee on concrete, they'll empty a couple of rounds into someone?

Why are they allowed to carry guns again?

Did a car back fire? Did a coffee cup break? Or did a Sig 9 mm go off? Details matter, sweetie.

Sounds like they should power down and take some training lessons from nurses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t going to stop until we get the madman out of office, and have new leadership in place. We all know it. Beats me why any Republican would stand in support of this.

The recent killings have fundamentally changed how I view republicans, America, and Christians. The lack of humanity in many parts of America is astounding and heartbreaking.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal Editorial Board: “Time for ICE to Pause in Minneapolis”

Gift link: (from Threads, hope this works)

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/time-for-ice-to-pause-in-minneapolis-e9ecf097?st=QJefj9&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink&media_id=3818225212392052910_63301275551&media_author_id=63301275551&ranking_info_token=GCAwMWVmNDA4MmM5ZjI0ZmZjODI1YjdhOTk1ZGM0NzdhZSX+m9YDJqbftZcNGBMzODE4MjI1MjEyMzkyMDUyOTEwKAN2bGwA&utm_source=ig_text_feed_timeline

When MAGA and the so-called “conservatives” lose the Editorial Board of the WSJ, they have lost not only the battle but also the war.

9 short months until gridlock. A little less than 3 years until the days of reckoning and retribution begin.

Several Republican Senators are calling for an investigation (joint federal and state) into Pretti’s death. Not as many as one would like to see given that a peaceful VA nurse has been killed, right after a peaceful mother of 3 was killed, but it’s a start.

I heard that nurse forums are blowing up. I wonder how this is playing with VA and older veterans in Minneapolis? They must talk and maybe it’s spreading.

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After this is done, who will employ these ex-ICE thugs? Are they the sons of people we see in the photos of lynchings; a few generations removed from slave patrolers? What will be their next occupation, or will we kill this spirit in its entirety.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

You seem to believe that protesting is the same as interfering.

It isn't.

We have a Constitutional right to protest, including to protest police activities.

It's not against the law to "engage an officer while the officer is engaged with another person". WTF? That's not illegal.

Resisting arrest is illegal, but a) he wasn't doing that. it's not on the video. They were beating and attacking him violently. He was trying to protect himself and b) resisting arrest is not grounds for public exectution.

So stop. Stop lying. You sound hysterical. You sound like an anti-American loser.

Why won't you respect the Constitution? Have some decency.

Could you please show the copy of the permit for that protest?

What!?
Wrong country, dude. Americans don’t need a permit to protest. It’s protected constitutional speech.

If your protests blocks the traffic, permits generally required. The guy was not on a sidewalk, he was in the middle of the road. That is why I asked if he obtained a permit for protesting.

He was not protesting, he was just filming from a distance. He then walked closer and came to the aid of two women who were also filming, only filming, when one was pushed to the ground by one agent. He helped her up, and was immediately and severely attacked by this same agent, completely unprovoked and with his back turned! At that point he was blind and in pain! Same agent struck him repeatedly in the head. And shot him when another had already disarmed him. There is no way to spin this, none.

I am reminded again of the thousands of ERs around the country that deal with combative, aggressive, and unrestrained people actually trying to kill the staff, and some of whom have weapons (even guns, if they were not properly searched, which happens more than it should) -- and they somehow manage not to kill them, no matter what noises go off around them.

Exactly! I posted on another thread-I worked for years in the ED and routinely was in greater danger than these numpties-no one ever ended up pepper sprayed or shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PSA: For people who don’t want other to be shot by ICE or law enforcement.
Stop encouraging them to obstruct and interfere with ICE and/or other law enforcement officers doing their jobs.
As a general rule… if you see LEO trying to arrest criminals, just GTFO of the way, and you will almost certainly not die.
It really is as simple as that

What should we do when they arrest children? Or mothers in the school pickup line? Or US citizens? Or when they teargas American HS students at school?

What if they start arresting people they don’t like? What if they arrest your family member?

Still silent? Stay silent forever?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn’t going to stop until we get the madman out of office, and have new leadership in place. We all know it. Beats me why any Republican would stand in support of this.

The recent killings have fundamentally changed how I view republicans, America, and Christians. The lack of humanity in many parts of America is astounding and heartbreaking.

Why now, we have told you that it was bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After this is done, who will employ these ex-ICE thugs? Are they the sons of people we see in the photos of lynchings; a few generations removed from slave patrolers? What will be their next occupation, or will we kill this spirit in its entirety.

Oh they’ll all be in prison.

[Anonymous]

We need more drone surveillance of ICE's atrocities. They need to be filmed from every angle as much as possible. Just think how much is not caught on camera.

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Anonymous wrote:Bovino just told reporters the suspect was on scene several minutes interfering with arrests.

You know there's video. I wonder why they are waiting to show it.

Pretty convenient the protesters haven't posted any of it.

Are you really this dense or just bored? None of these stories make any difference whatsoever.

Pretti was face down and immobilized. Shooting him was an unlawful extrajudicial killing. We don’t accept that in the United States.

At any point has the governor or mayor asked citizens to stop interfering with ICE agents? Why do you think they haven't done that?

Because “interfering” isn’t what they’re doing? Because they believe in the constitutional right to free speech?

Just a wild guess.

p.s. “interfering” isn’t cult-speak

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.

That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.

So you're saying that ICE are such f--kups that if a car backfires nearby, or someone drops a mug of coffee on concrete, they'll empty a couple of rounds into someone?

Why are they allowed to carry guns again?

Did a car back fire? Did a coffee cup break? Or did an Sig 9 mm go off? Details matter, sweetie.

This argument doesn't really make sense though. Let's say the "agent in gray" who took Alex's gun did accidentally fire it. The agent in the black ski-cap was standing directly behind Alex at that moment, with Alex's back to him. There's no reason for the agent to then shoot Alex after hearing a gunshot behind him.

It doesn't appear that this is what happened, anyway. The black ski-cap guy fired first and multiple times. Maybe his first shot was a negligent discharge, but certainly none of the others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need more drone surveillance of ICE's atrocities. They need to be filmed from every angle as much as possible. Just think how much is not caught on camera.

Drones! Now there’s a great idea!!

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Can Rs at least agree to stop bonuses based on arrests? That would at least drop incentives for the behaviors we are seeing.