Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is a liar and a sexual predator, and he needs to be removed from the judiciary entirely.


Your opinion does not matter.
r

All you liberal fools keep setting each other off on how bad he is, ohhhh he has to be removed from his position, he is a rapist.....

So after hearing yourself and people like you write about this for days, how can anyone disagree with you?

So many other message boards in the country have majority people supporting BK. You should read there point of view as well on this whole issue.


It’s people like this on the board who were like Trump has no chance of winning the election. I know nobody who will vote for him.... and then he wins.

Get out of your bubble...



My fb page has people from some seriously red areas. One interesting thing I have noticed is that while the conservative men are supporting BK, the trend is not so clear with the women. Maybe they don’t want to get slammed. Or maybe this strikes closer to home. I have no idea.
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Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.


this, this, this.


If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.


There are all sorts of sexual assaults.
Ford does not say he raped her.

In any case, attempted rape or rape, if he had been charged at the time, even if a judge had thrown the book at him which we all know never would have happened, he'd be out by now.


IF he had been charged. He hasn't been charged. If he is charged and found guilty, he should serve whatever sentence given. The fact that he would be out now is irrelevant.


I heard on the radio that while there is no SOL now, there was then. Can he be charged?
Anonymous
Y'ALL

This is a pure genius mashup: https://twitter.com/heyitschili/status/1045718359713681408
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.


this, this, this.


If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.


+1, what are you suggesting first pp? that sexual assault is "stuff middle aged people got away with in their youth?" Ford said they shut the door and turned the music up loud and that she called out hoping someone would hear her. The boys laughed.


Sexual assault is indeed exactly the kind of thing middle aged people got away with in their youth. But middle aged people also got away with physical assault. Shoplifting. Theft. Breaking and entering. Speeding. Illegal drug use. Drug dealing. Using prostitutes. Being prostitutes. Illegal consumption of alcohol. Name it, some or even many of us in our middle age got away with it. To what extent do we hold us all responsible now?


There are statues of limitations, but sometimes you will not be able to get certain employment, and we find that reasonable in our society. In the past, we held SC nominees to the highest standards of all. I don't think that is a bad thing.


I was a chronic shop lifter when I was a kid. If it wasn't nailed down, I was taking it. I never got caught. I don't steal at all any more. Haven't since I turned 17 and decided I was being an idiot and needed to stop. I am sure there are jobs where if someone actively shop lifts, you wouldn't want them to have that job. Would someone like me, who used to shop lift, but stopped, and yet also never paid for my crimes, also be inappropriate to have in those jobs? What if I'd held those jobs prior to the discovery of my past, and I'd been fine in them? I have a debt that's never been paid. But it's far in my past and I don't appear to be continuing that behavior now. Is that sufficient? Do I need to pay that debt? Because I have this history, am I now too much of a risk to hold those jobs?

Maybe shoplifting's minor and we don't care, right? Lots of us shoplifted when we were young and stupid (and lots of people didn't - so shouldn't they be rewarded for their honesty?). What about assault? Someone who got in fist fights all the time throughout their youth, and managed to never get charged because they were lucky enough never to kill someone, and people were willing to let boys be boys. Or hate crimes. I could not count the number of times I heard boys call other boys f-gg-t. Is it possible that you could accept someone in a sensitive position dealing with gay people, if you discovered in his youth he was a homophobic jerk?

Maybe the answer is we only care this much about Supreme Court nominees. But I'm betting we also care about Presidents. And maybe all judges. And I'd bet we could make a pretty long list where it turns out we kind of do care.
Anonymous
More dirt is coming. It's over. This is why he and repubs were so terrified of an investigation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.


this, this, this.


If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.


+1, what are you suggesting first pp? that sexual assault is "stuff middle aged people got away with in their youth?" Ford said they shut the door and turned the music up loud and that she called out hoping someone would hear her. The boys laughed.


Sexual assault is indeed exactly the kind of thing middle aged people got away with in their youth. But middle aged people also got away with physical assault. Shoplifting. Theft. Breaking and entering. Speeding. Illegal drug use. Drug dealing. Using prostitutes. Being prostitutes. Illegal consumption of alcohol. Name it, some or even many of us in our middle age got away with it. To what extent do we hold us all responsible now?


A SCOTUS pick is understandably held to a much higher standard.


Just SCOTUS? What about President?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:More dirt is coming. It's over. This is why he and repubs were so terrified of an investigation.


Hmm, you sound so certain. Are you assisting in the manufacture of said dirt?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.


this, this, this.


If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.


+1, what are you suggesting first pp? that sexual assault is "stuff middle aged people got away with in their youth?" Ford said they shut the door and turned the music up loud and that she called out hoping someone would hear her. The boys laughed.


Sexual assault is indeed exactly the kind of thing middle aged people got away with in their youth. But middle aged people also got away with physical assault. Shoplifting. Theft. Breaking and entering. Speeding. Illegal drug use. Drug dealing. Using prostitutes. Being prostitutes. Illegal consumption of alcohol. Name it, some or even many of us in our middle age got away with it. To what extent do we hold us all responsible now?

It doesn't bother me that he did bad things in the distant past. It bothers me that he lied to Congress about it, and even lied about non-crimes like the thing about Renate in his yearbook. Shows he is dishonest. "Lie in a small thing, lie on everything" I think the lawyers say.


So any lie disqualifies a nominee to the Supreme Court?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.


this, this, this.


If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.


+1, what are you suggesting first pp? that sexual assault is "stuff middle aged people got away with in their youth?" Ford said they shut the door and turned the music up loud and that she called out hoping someone would hear her. The boys laughed.


Sexual assault is indeed exactly the kind of thing middle aged people got away with in their youth. But middle aged people also got away with physical assault. Shoplifting. Theft. Breaking and entering. Speeding. Illegal drug use. Drug dealing. Using prostitutes. Being prostitutes. Illegal consumption of alcohol. Name it, some or even many of us in our middle age got away with it. To what extent do we hold us all responsible now?


When you are applying for one of the most powerful positions in America, on the SCOTUS you need to be held accountable for all your past actions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Pp asking if we middle aged people should be held accountable NOW : this is why I would never run for public office. Because I WAS a part of wild antics in my younger years. I know it would be used against me. So I don’t go for a job where I have to have an FBI background check. Duh


I'm with you. But what if you didn't remember the antics? Maybe you were black out drunk. Maybe they were so normalized you didn't see them as antics. Look at us using the word "antics" which downplays a lot of what I did. I wasn't TPing the neighbor's house. Anyway, so, which things did we engage in that disqualify us from public office? Any illegal or anti social behavior? Just some things? Only for some public offices?
Anonymous
The connection to Ed Whelen and fingering "Squi" as it relates to the July 1, 1982 gathering is, IMO key to unlocking this.

The question is, will the Prep boys close ranks?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:More dirt is coming. It's over. This is why he and repubs were so terrified of an investigation.

What are you prattling about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think he is a liar and a sexual predator, and he needs to be removed from the judiciary entirely.


Your opinion does not matter.
r

All you liberal fools keep setting each other off on how bad he is, ohhhh he has to be removed from his position, he is a rapist.....

So after hearing yourself and people like you write about this for days, how can anyone disagree with you?

So many other message boards in the country have majority people supporting BK. You should read there point of view as well on this whole issue.


It’s people like this on the board who were like Trump has no chance of winning the election. I know nobody who will vote for him.... and then he wins.

Get out of your bubble...



My fb page has people from some seriously red areas. One interesting thing I have noticed is that while the conservative men are supporting BK, the trend is not so clear with the women. Maybe they don’t want to get slammed. Or maybe this strikes closer to home. I have no idea.


If you were female you'd have an idea. I polled my female friends and every one of them said they've been sexually harassed, including my lesbian friend who has never shown any interest in men. Certain types of men see a female and harass her because they think they have the freedom and the right to do so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.


this, this, this.


If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.


+1, what are you suggesting first pp? that sexual assault is "stuff middle aged people got away with in their youth?" Ford said they shut the door and turned the music up loud and that she called out hoping someone would hear her. The boys laughed.


Sexual assault is indeed exactly the kind of thing middle aged people got away with in their youth. But middle aged people also got away with physical assault. Shoplifting. Theft. Breaking and entering. Speeding. Illegal drug use. Drug dealing. Using prostitutes. Being prostitutes. Illegal consumption of alcohol. Name it, some or even many of us in our middle age got away with it. To what extent do we hold us all responsible now?


When you are applying for one of the most powerful positions in America, on the SCOTUS you need to be held accountable for all your past actions.


How accountable? And what's that mean?
Could we have a Supreme Court Justice who used illegal drugs in his youth?
What about one who had a DUI in his youth?

Would it be ok if they fessed up and showed how they'd changed? What if they tried to downplay it, like that old "I didn't inhale" crud that no one believed? Would that be a disqualifier?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Y'ALL

This is a pure genius mashup: https://twitter.com/heyitschili/status/1045718359713681408


For some reason it really bugs me that the person who created it tweeted it and got 3k retweets but this other random comedian shares it (doesn't retweet, but downloads it and uploads it again) gets 84k retweets
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