BOE - who are people voting for?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.
Anonymous
Will Evans and Harris take the anti-incumbent hint and pivot their behavior accordingly and start putting the screws on MCPS personnel a lot more between now and Nov? That's the only way I see them surviving the general.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.


You are entitled to your opinion, but the numbers don't support it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Will Evans and Harris take the anti-incumbent hint and pivot their behavior accordingly and start putting the screws on MCPS personnel a lot more between now and Nov? That's the only way I see them surviving the general.


They might in their rhetoric but no one actually pays attention to boe meetings other than us DCUM crazies, so if they want to change something for the sake of changing the narrative of the election, I wouldn't start there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.


I completely agree with this. Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research. That’s how it is in Montgomery county.

I think most voters don’t know anything about the Board of Education races, and if they did, they would not vote the straight Apple ballot. I don’t think Montoya would’ve gotten the vote. It might’ve been split differently.

But this is where we’re at now so it’s time to vote for the better of the candidates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.


I completely agree with this. Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research. That’s how it is in Montgomery county.

I think most voters don’t know anything about the Board of Education races, and if they did, they would not vote the straight Apple ballot. I don’t think Montoya would’ve gotten the vote. It might’ve been split differently.

But this is where we’re at now so it’s time to vote for the better of the candidates.


Numbers of votes received by candidates who were on the Apple Ballot

Montoya: 26,824
Zimmerman: 38,863
Stewart: 40,103

How do you reconcile this with your "Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research." assertion?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.


I completely agree with this. Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research. That’s how it is in Montgomery county.

I think most voters don’t know anything about the Board of Education races, and if they did, they would not vote the straight Apple ballot. I don’t think Montoya would’ve gotten the vote. It might’ve been split differently.

But this is where we’re at now so it’s time to vote for the better of the candidates.


Numbers of votes received by candidates who were on the Apple Ballot

Montoya: 26,824
Zimmerman: 38,863
Stewart: 40,103

How do you reconcile this with your "Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research." assertion?


+1
There were at least 86,000 votes cast in the BOE at large race and only 27,000 voted for the Apple ballot candidate (Montoya). That's not even close to "most voters".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will Evans and Harris take the anti-incumbent hint and pivot their behavior accordingly and start putting the screws on MCPS personnel a lot more between now and Nov? That's the only way I see them surviving the general.


They might in their rhetoric but no one actually pays attention to boe meetings other than us DCUM crazies, so if they want to change something for the sake of changing the narrative of the election, I wouldn't start there.


Harris probably will, as it aligns with her earlier aims (from when she first was elected), and she can see the current atmosphere as conducive to that, trying to shift the tendency of the board with others likely on the way out.

Evans probably won't, as detailed questioning of current MCPS upper admin continues to run against her aims, though she may pick one or two agenda items to make a half-hearted attempt to appear responsible for representative oversight. There's probably an adjutant job waiting for her that will occupy more of her time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.


I completely agree with this. Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research. That’s how it is in Montgomery county.

I think most voters don’t know anything about the Board of Education races, and if they did, they would not vote the straight Apple ballot. I don’t think Montoya would’ve gotten the vote. It might’ve been split differently.

But this is where we’re at now so it’s time to vote for the better of the candidates.


You're both wrong. The Apple ballot merely makes sound picks that are aligned with voter values. I happen to voted straight Apple ballot except for Trone. I had made my picks long before seeing the Apple ballot. It just consistently makes sound picks like 90% of the time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.


What evidence do you have to support your claim? When I had no clue about BOE races when I was in my 20s and pre kids I simply left those races blank.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.


I completely agree with this. Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research. That’s how it is in Montgomery county.

I think most voters don’t know anything about the Board of Education races, and if they did, they would not vote the straight Apple ballot. I don’t think Montoya would’ve gotten the vote. It might’ve been split differently.

But this is where we’re at now so it’s time to vote for the better of the candidates.


Numbers of votes received by candidates who were on the Apple Ballot

Montoya: 26,824
Zimmerman: 38,863
Stewart: 40,103

How do you reconcile this with your "Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research." assertion?


+1
There were at least 86,000 votes cast in the BOE at large race and only 27,000 voted for the Apple ballot candidate (Montoya). That's not even close to "most voters".


+100
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:255 of 257 districts reported now. Top 3 in each race:

At Large:
Lynne Harris 26,845 31.07%
Rita Montoya 26,824 31.05%
Melissa Kim 13,344 15.45%

Incumbent (Harris) has a strong showing. Very close race, may be equally close in the general.

D2:
Natalie Zimmerman 38,863 46.11%
Brenda M. Diaz 18,774 22.28%
Rebecca Smondrowski 14,216 16.87%

Incumbent (Smondrowski) voted out.

D4:
Laura M. Stewart 40,103 47.30%
Shebra Evans 22,840 26.94%
Bethany S. Mandel 21,843 25.76%

Incumbent (Evans) barely squeaks by, beating DCUM's favorite candidate (joke) by less than 1,000 votes. Strong chance Evans will lose in the general.

So in the general, we know 1 incumbent is already out (Smondrowski), and 1 is likely to lose (Evans), so that just leaves Harris. If all 3 get voted out, that will be quite a coup!

Not a coup. A demonstration of the power of the MCEA Apple Ballot.

Or, the Apple ballot is a good reflection of the general opinions of the voters of this county. Many people do their own research and come to the same/similar conclusions as the Apple Ballot. Zimmerman and Stewart had 46/47 percent of the vote, but Montoya only 31. People didn’t just vote straight Apple Ballot.


Totally disagree. The majority of voters have no clue about BOE races and they vote looking at the Apple ballot. We've all seen how that turns out.


I completely agree with this. Most voters will take the Apple ballot to the voting booth and just mark the names down without doing any research. That’s how it is in Montgomery county.

I think most voters don’t know anything about the Board of Education races, and if they did, they would not vote the straight Apple ballot. I don’t think Montoya would’ve gotten the vote. It might’ve been split differently.

But this is where we’re at now so it’s time to vote for the better of the candidates.


But Montoya only got 30% of the vote! Are you that poor at math that you think it’s a majority?

Zimmerman and Stewart were both the logical choices in their races if you didn’t want an incumbent or MAGA crazy. Anyone who had 15 minutes to research could figure that out pretty quick.
Anonymous
I really don't think most Montgomery County voters do much research into BOE races. I also don't think they do much research into the races for judges.

Any research "normal" voters would do is maybe look at the questions from League of Women Voter's or Moderately MoCo this time around.

They vote Apple Ballot, the name they recognize or they leave it blank.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I really don't think most Montgomery County voters do much research into BOE races. I also don't think they do much research into the races for judges.

Any research "normal" voters would do is maybe look at the questions from League of Women Voter's or Moderately MoCo this time around.

They vote Apple Ballot, the name they recognize or they leave it blank.


Agree but those that do research just happen to vote the same as Apple ballot because it has sound choices.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I really don't think most Montgomery County voters do much research into BOE races. I also don't think they do much research into the races for judges.

Any research "normal" voters would do is maybe look at the questions from League of Women Voter's or Moderately MoCo this time around.

They vote Apple Ballot, the name they recognize or they leave it blank.


Here's what I do: I watch the League of Women Voters candidates forum. And most years, my choices are the same as the Apple Ballot's.
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