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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

Is this 2023 or 2024?

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This is concerning. The options for girls with GPAs in the bottom 50% of the NCS class are disappearing each year.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

Is this 2023 or 2024?

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

My daughter is a 2025. I thought regular decision did not come out yet?? End of March I thought?

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

My daughter is a 2025. I thought regular decision did not come out yet?? End of March I thought?

Tulane's RD came out on Friday March 8. They are normally first Friday of March.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

My daughter is a 2025. I thought regular decision did not come out yet?? End of March I thought?

Tulane's RD came out on Friday March 8. They are normally first Friday of March.

Are you saying no girls got in regular decision? So I now one is in at Tulane. Is that it?

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

My daughter is a 2025. I thought regular decision did not come out yet?? End of March I thought?

I think this poster is referring to 2023 (when she talks about no EAs being admitted RD, regardless of GPA being above 3.4 or scores being above Tulane's average).

I'm the poster that mentioned 2024 and what I heard is that no girls applied ED 1 or 2 this year (which makes sense as I have not heard of any admits).
No EA admits either. RD is pending April 1.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

Then how are Holton and other schools getting in several? Better GPA's? Better recs? What is it?

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

My daughter is a 2025. I thought regular decision did not come out yet?? End of March I thought?

Tulane's RD came out on Friday March 8. They are normally first Friday of March.

Are you saying no girls got in regular decision? So I now one is in at Tulane. Is that it?

No, I do not know if anyone was admitted in EA. And I don't know if anyone applied RD. I only know that none of the EA deferrals got in RD.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

Then how are Holton and other schools getting in several? Better GPA's? Better recs? What is it?

Could be they applied ED or EDII. Could be more demonstrated interest. And of course, could be better GPA's. I don't think it would be recs.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????

My older daughter is a junior. What's done is done. We (and everyone we know) did not realize the reality of deflated grades and college admissions until this year.
We always just figured it would "work out" and that colleges understood (and cared) about the rigor. My junior has decent grades (well above the average for the class) so she'll be ok. She's not going to HYP but she'll have options.

My younger daughter is in middle school. We like the middle school--it is kind and gentle and well run. We're going to move her before high school. My experience with NCS is that the administration is not receptive to any feedback
(probably because they get so much) and they are fully supportive about NCS' identity as a school with very difficult grading. The HOS said herself at a recent parent association meeting (to paraphrase) "our identity is to be a very rigorous schools with very hard grading".

Things won't change until they have a large percentage of a class fail to matriculate at competitive colleges. Maybe that will be this year, maybe next year, maybe never. Who knows. Admission results are always very cloudy at a school like this because there are plenty of hooked kids whose applications don't follow the "rules".... I.e. they have a sub 3.5 GPA but the parents have a connection somewhere so they call in a favor and the kid gets one admit WAY beyond their pay grade or those of their classmates (I.e. a top 50 admit with a 3.3 GPA). So for stats purposes NCS looks like a success for this student although ultimately it was a due to a favor called in by the parents in the 11th hour.

We had 2 girls graduate from NCS and currently in college, so recent experience. We decided to send our younger DC to a non-big3 school after going through the college process and dealing with applying to colleges with 3.4 GPAs from NCS. The grading is ridiculous. For example, college kid just called and said they got a score of 100 on an essay. Not one point off. Four years of english at NCS and only received an A the year they were taking it at STA. Every other year it was a B+ (usually an 88). So she is obviously well prepared for college, but the grading wears the girls down. They work so, so hard and my girls both said they never really felt smart until they went to college. I wanted something healthier for DC#3.

Where did your daughters get in with a 3.4? Not specific school but type or range?

Colleges in range for NCS 3.4 girls in recent years:
Penn State, Drexel, Temple, Tulane
Bucknell, Denison
St Andrews

Not Tulane anymore!

Yes--girls got in with GPAs like this as of last year. I bet it would be okay this year as well if girls had applied ED1 but i heard that none did.

Maybe so. Several applied EA (with higher gpa's) and were deferred and none of those were admitted.

DP. How do you know this? Is this 100 percent for certain?

I am certain. I do not know if any were waitlisted, but I do know that none who were deferred EA were admitted in RD. And I do know for certain that there were higher gpas than 3.4. And test scores higher than Tulane's reported avg for the RD admits.

My daughter is a 2025. I thought regular decision did not come out yet?? End of March I thought?

Tulane's RD came out on Friday March 8. They are normally first Friday of March.

This is incorrect. I just looked and RD for Tulane is by April 1st. Are you saying they came out early???

[Anonymous]

Previous poster again.
I am incorrect.
Regular decision did come out last week.

If there is only one NCS girl that is a marked change.
And we have no way of knowing if that girl is a lower GPA at NCS or a 3.9 using it as a safety.

This is concerning as they typically take 5-8 girls who are in the mid to lower part of the class but who will do very well at Tulane (or at any college).

I worry that there are fewer schools each year who are taking these low GPAs.

[Anonymous]

RD came out last week. The Tulane website says April but there is a reddit thread for "Tulane regular decision 2024" where all the kids reported their acceptances last week.

Tulane is fully out for 2024 (minus any waitlist movement)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Previous poster again.
I am incorrect.
Regular decision did come out last week.

If there is only one NCS girl that is a marked change.
And we have no way of knowing if that girl is a lower GPA at NCS or a 3.9 using it as a safety.

This is concerning as they typically take 5-8 girls who are in the mid to lower part of the class but who will do very well at Tulane (or at any college).

I worry that there are fewer schools each year who are taking these low GPAs.

You are worried with good reason. Also a class of 2025 here and also very worried but posting on here for something that will not even happen for another year won't help unless you can get NCS to change things to help 2025 and it sounds like it won't happen so......