The Golden Bachelor

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Anonymous wrote:They're selling their homes and moving to Charleston together.
https://people.com/why-gerry-turner-and-theresa-nist-plan-to-move-to-charleston-exclusive-8409520

They don't know each other well enough to make that kind of ginormous move at their ages. I guess it's good that Theresa has family living there, because I suspect she is in for a rude awakening once they actually have to live together. The way his feelings change on a dime?

Don't count her out. Little Theresa might well end up being the boss of him. She's shrewd enough to cater to him while actually running things. I've known women of her generation who have an amazing knack for that. The fact that she's getting a house near her family is promising.

Although at 70 it makes sense she retire now, I kind of hate that she's leaving a job she loves though. I think the video clip of her at her office was her retirement party. She was coming out of an empty office, probably the one she had cleared out.

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Anonymous wrote:It's incredibly hard to have any buy-in in this relationship when there was zero sense of them organically falling in love. It seemed absolutely one-sided until the very last minute. Just weird.

That's "the edit" that the producers gave Theresa. She has a good reason to be mad at them. They totally control what the viewers see and who they root for. It's not like we see 90% of what happened. We see 1% of what really happened, and the producers pick which 1% the viewer see. They can skew it one way or the other to make viewers think it's X, or to cast Y as a "villain."

Once you realize that you (the viewer) are a pawn in the producer's quest to bring in ad revenue (through viewership -- and btw, the producers don't care if people hate the lead or love him -- either one gets ratings) -- then you can take a step back, realize you don't know all the details, and just trust that the two adults in the end made whatever choice they wanted to make. Be happy for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone think Gerry was an even bigger @ss to Leslie tonight? His saying he picked the woman who "knows how to nurture a relationship" seemed like a very mean dig at Leslie. He has a terrible mean streak imo and I completely believe he made that weight comment to his ex.

Someone got mad when I said much earlier in the thread that Leslie’s spotty relationship history was a red flag.

Sorry, but if she has never been in a healthy, longterm relationship, who knows if she is capable if it. If that is what he seeks, Theresa at least knows the drill.

Yes, but he could have talked about their "similar histories and bond" without phrasing it as a direct dig to Leslie. I think it was callous. I get a cold vibe from him, but narcissists are very charming until they're not. The other ladies definitely view him very differently now. They were not happy for this couple, and I believe it's because they now have his number.

I gasped when he said that. "I chose the woman who knows how to nurture a long-term relationship." COME ON. He could simply have said: "I realized the level of trust and understanding between two people who suffered the loss of life-long loves was invaluable." It was framed as Theresa vs. Leslie, and was a low blow. Should Leslie have stayed after infidelity?

He also said in Theresa he was getting an equal partner. That had to sting for Leslie, but it's true she has a poor romantic track record and also probably has no money. Gerry felt for her and was very attracted to her, but he's not the type who wants to take care of a woman. This is crystal clear from his ex's account. It seems his wife took care of him while being the breadwinner for the family. That's the dynamic he's used to and prefers. Theresa is the party with the bigger bank account, but she's okay with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone think Gerry was an even bigger @ss to Leslie tonight? His saying he picked the woman who "knows how to nurture a relationship" seemed like a very mean dig at Leslie. He has a terrible mean streak imo and I completely believe he made that weight comment to his ex.

Someone got mad when I said much earlier in the thread that Leslie’s spotty relationship history was a red flag.

Sorry, but if she has never been in a healthy, longterm relationship, who knows if she is capable if it. If that is what he seeks, Theresa at least knows the drill.

Yes, but he could have talked about their "similar histories and bond" without phrasing it as a direct dig to Leslie. I think it was callous. I get a cold vibe from him, but narcissists are very charming until they're not. The other ladies definitely view him very differently now. They were not happy for this couple, and I believe it's because they now have his number.

I gasped when he said that. "I chose the woman who knows how to nurture a long-term relationship." COME ON. He could simply have said: "I realized the level of trust and understanding between two people who suffered the loss of life-long loves was invaluable." It was framed as Theresa vs. Leslie, and was a low blow. Should Leslie have stayed after infidelity?

He also said in Theresa he was getting an equal partner. That had to sting for Leslie, but it's true she has a poor romantic track record and also probably has no money. Gerry felt for her and was very attracted to her, but he's not the type who wants to take care of a woman. This is crystal clear from his ex's account. It seems his wife took care of him while being the breadwinner for the family. That's the dynamic he's used to and prefers. Theresa is the party with the bigger bank account, but she's okay with that.

Leslie has so much emotional baggage. That's even more important than the money issue, but I agree that was also very important to Gerry.I hope Leslie gets therapy, poor thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Poor Theresa, I feel she's such a romantic and this might not end well. Good ol' Gerry is getting another free vacay.

They are making a point of not showing the other women since all the head shaking and eye rolls, lol!

But all the Golden Women are going to be at the Jan 4 wedding

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The best thing about these ladies is their sincerity. I don't see them faking it, even for ABC!

Also, was Theresa even close friends with any of the women? She seemed a bit separate from them all along.

Both Faith and Leslie expressed that they were friends with Theresa and they had nothing bad to say about her. If any of the women would be justified in casting shade at Theresa, it would be Faith and Leslie. And they did not have anything bad to say against her (not even something lukewarm like "I don't think she's here for the right reasons" or "I don't see what they could have in common"). Nothing. They said they like her.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the other contestants paid? Seems like a burden to continue to have to show up to events for this couple.

They are there b/c they want to be seen on tv. They get more followers and more potential to be talked about as the next Golden Bachelorette.

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My mother in laws best friends husband asked her to marry him right after her death.
Did not want to be alone
No love
These people have no love
Not even familiarity
All fantasy
Leslie lost nothing

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone think Gerry was an even bigger @ss to Leslie tonight? His saying he picked the woman who "knows how to nurture a relationship" seemed like a very mean dig at Leslie. He has a terrible mean streak imo and I completely believe he made that weight comment to his ex.

Someone got mad when I said much earlier in the thread that Leslie’s spotty relationship history was a red flag.

Sorry, but if she has never been in a healthy, longterm relationship, who knows if she is capable if it. If that is what he seeks, Theresa at least knows the drill.

Yes, but he could have talked about their "similar histories and bond" without phrasing it as a direct dig to Leslie. I think it was callous. I get a cold vibe from him, but narcissists are very charming until they're not. The other ladies definitely view him very differently now. They were not happy for this couple, and I believe it's because they now have his number.

I gasped when he said that. "I chose the woman who knows how to nurture a long-term relationship." COME ON. He could simply have said: "I realized the level of trust and understanding between two people who suffered the loss of life-long loves was invaluable." It was framed as Theresa vs. Leslie, and was a low blow. Should Leslie have stayed after infidelity?

He also said in Theresa he was getting an equal partner. That had to sting for Leslie, but it's true she has a poor romantic track record and also probably has no money. Gerry felt for her and was very attracted to her, but he's not the type who wants to take care of a woman. This is crystal clear from his ex's account. It seems his wife took care of him while being the breadwinner for the family. That's the dynamic he's used to and prefers. Theresa is the party with the bigger bank account, but she's okay with that.

Leslie has so much emotional baggage. That's even more important than the money issue, but I agree that was also very important to Gerry.I hope Leslie gets therapy, poor thing.

Concern troll crawls out from under the bridge.

Sorry Theresa is stuck with this yahoo now, but Leslie will be the one better off without him.

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Anonymous wrote:I do think he's cheap. Let's make the free trip our honeymoon, yay!

Isn’t part of the appeal of this whole gig that they pay for the travel and clothes?

I would not do it because I value my privacy, but people who sign on probably want to milk it.

To the first PP who casts Gerry as cheap -- I think it was just an innocuous comment to basically announce that they WOULD be getting married (i.e. we will be having a honeymoon!). If you want to see everything through negative glasses, then yes, you can say Gerry is cheap. But they were given a trip... so why not call it a honeymoon?

It's all in YOUR perspective. Either you hate Gerry and see everything that he does as being selfish, cheap, mean, etc. Or you see him as a regular guy who is excited to go to Italy.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone think Gerry was an even bigger @ss to Leslie tonight? His saying he picked the woman who "knows how to nurture a relationship" seemed like a very mean dig at Leslie. He has a terrible mean streak imo and I completely believe he made that weight comment to his ex.

Someone got mad when I said much earlier in the thread that Leslie’s spotty relationship history was a red flag.

Sorry, but if she has never been in a healthy, longterm relationship, who knows if she is capable if it. If that is what he seeks, Theresa at least knows the drill.

Yes, but he could have talked about their "similar histories and bond" without phrasing it as a direct dig to Leslie. I think it was callous. I get a cold vibe from him, but narcissists are very charming until they're not. The other ladies definitely view him very differently now. They were not happy for this couple, and I believe it's because they now have his number.

I gasped when he said that. "I chose the woman who knows how to nurture a long-term relationship." COME ON. He could simply have said: "I realized the level of trust and understanding between two people who suffered the loss of life-long loves was invaluable." It was framed as Theresa vs. Leslie, and was a low blow. Should Leslie have stayed after infidelity?

He also said in Theresa he was getting an equal partner. That had to sting for Leslie, but it's true she has a poor romantic track record and also probably has no money. Gerry felt for her and was very attracted to her, but he's not the type who wants to take care of a woman. This is crystal clear from his ex's account. It seems his wife took care of him while being the breadwinner for the family. That's the dynamic he's used to and prefers. Theresa is the party with the bigger bank account, but she's okay with that.

Leslie has so much emotional baggage. That's even more important than the money issue, but I agree that was also very important to Gerry.I hope Leslie gets therapy, poor thing.

Concern troll crawls out from under the bridge.

Sorry Theresa is stuck with this yahoo now, but Leslie will be the one better off without him.

How is that trolling? Her emotional pain was hard to watch. It clearly stemmed from her issues and was not really Gerry-specific. If she gets therapy, maybe she'll have more strength and confidence in herself. Fully agree she's better off without that yahoo!

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Anonymous wrote:Poor Theresa, I feel she's such a romantic and this might not end well. Good ol' Gerry is getting another free vacay.

They are making a point of not showing the other women since all the head shaking and eye rolls, lol!

But all the Golden Women are going to be at the Jan 4 wedding

😂

The best thing about these ladies is their sincerity. I don't see them faking it, even for ABC!

Also, was Theresa even close friends with any of the women? She seemed a bit separate from them all along.

Both Faith and Leslie expressed that they were friends with Theresa and they had nothing bad to say about her. If any of the women would be justified in casting shade at Theresa, it would be Faith and Leslie. And they did not have anything bad to say against her (not even something lukewarm like "I don't think she's here for the right reasons" or "I don't see what they could have in common"). Nothing. They said they like her.

Well, they know that these comments are picked over, dissected, and immortalized in video. They are saying exactly the right things to not cause offense and be easily forgotten. I don't think you can call that candid.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone think Gerry was an even bigger @ss to Leslie tonight? His saying he picked the woman who "knows how to nurture a relationship" seemed like a very mean dig at Leslie. He has a terrible mean streak imo and I completely believe he made that weight comment to his ex.

Someone got mad when I said much earlier in the thread that Leslie’s spotty relationship history was a red flag.

Sorry, but if she has never been in a healthy, longterm relationship, who knows if she is capable if it. If that is what he seeks, Theresa at least knows the drill.

Yes, but he could have talked about their "similar histories and bond" without phrasing it as a direct dig to Leslie. I think it was callous. I get a cold vibe from him, but narcissists are very charming until they're not. The other ladies definitely view him very differently now. They were not happy for this couple, and I believe it's because they now have his number.

I gasped when he said that. "I chose the woman who knows how to nurture a long-term relationship." COME ON. He could simply have said: "I realized the level of trust and understanding between two people who suffered the loss of life-long loves was invaluable." It was framed as Theresa vs. Leslie, and was a low blow. Should Leslie have stayed after infidelity?

He also said in Theresa he was getting an equal partner. That had to sting for Leslie, but it's true she has a poor romantic track record and also probably has no money. Gerry felt for her and was very attracted to her, but he's not the type who wants to take care of a woman. This is crystal clear from his ex's account. It seems his wife took care of him while being the breadwinner for the family. That's the dynamic he's used to and prefers. Theresa is the party with the bigger bank account, but she's okay with that.

Leslie has so much emotional baggage. That's even more important than the money issue, but I agree that was also very important to Gerry.I hope Leslie gets therapy, poor thing.

Concern troll crawls out from under the bridge.

Sorry Theresa is stuck with this yahoo now, but Leslie will be the one better off without him.

How is that trolling? Her emotional pain was hard to watch. It clearly stemmed from her issues and was not really Gerry-specific. If she gets therapy, maybe she'll have more strength and confidence in herself. Fully agree she's better off without that yahoo!

"poor thing"

You can do better.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone think Gerry was an even bigger @ss to Leslie tonight? His saying he picked the woman who "knows how to nurture a relationship" seemed like a very mean dig at Leslie. He has a terrible mean streak imo and I completely believe he made that weight comment to his ex.

Someone got mad when I said much earlier in the thread that Leslie’s spotty relationship history was a red flag.

Sorry, but if she has never been in a healthy, longterm relationship, who knows if she is capable if it. If that is what he seeks, Theresa at least knows the drill.

Yes, but he could have talked about their "similar histories and bond" without phrasing it as a direct dig to Leslie. I think it was callous. I get a cold vibe from him, but narcissists are very charming until they're not. The other ladies definitely view him very differently now. They were not happy for this couple, and I believe it's because they now have his number.

I gasped when he said that. "I chose the woman who knows how to nurture a long-term relationship." COME ON. He could simply have said: "I realized the level of trust and understanding between two people who suffered the loss of life-long loves was invaluable." It was framed as Theresa vs. Leslie, and was a low blow. Should Leslie have stayed after infidelity?

He also said in Theresa he was getting an equal partner. That had to sting for Leslie, but it's true she has a poor romantic track record and also probably has no money. Gerry felt for her and was very attracted to her, but he's not the type who wants to take care of a woman. This is crystal clear from his ex's account. It seems his wife took care of him while being the breadwinner for the family. That's the dynamic he's used to and prefers. Theresa is the party with the bigger bank account, but she's okay with that.

Leslie has so much emotional baggage. That's even more important than the money issue, but I agree that was also very important to Gerry.I hope Leslie gets therapy, poor thing.

I believe Gerry would have chosen Leslie if she were of equal financial means.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone think Gerry was an even bigger @ss to Leslie tonight? His saying he picked the woman who "knows how to nurture a relationship" seemed like a very mean dig at Leslie. He has a terrible mean streak imo and I completely believe he made that weight comment to his ex.

Someone got mad when I said much earlier in the thread that Leslie’s spotty relationship history was a red flag.

Sorry, but if she has never been in a healthy, longterm relationship, who knows if she is capable if it. If that is what he seeks, Theresa at least knows the drill.

Her husbands cheated on her, and broke her heart. Are you saying she somehow deserved that treatment? Because he attributed this to HER.

She says she has never (despite two previous marriages) had someone treat her well, or commit to “until death do us part.” Seems odd for someone who has committed to marriage twice. At very least, her picker is off.

It certainly is, if she had her vows ready for Gerry.

But really, I dislike the idea that if a woman didn’t luck out immediately with relationships, she’s doomed to be rejected forever…because she hasn’t had good relationships. See how it works? So Leslie’s first husband cheats, she’s hurt, the second one deems her a doormat because of that and cheats on her, and on and on. She’s never worthy of being treated well because she wasn’t treated well. Meanwhile Theresa met her husband as a kid and married him and they stayed married till he died. Maybe she’s easier to get along with, maybe she put up with more shit, maybe she was just luckier. It doesn’t make her more worthy of love.

Anyway, I like them both and think both deserve better than Gerry. I hope Theresa has a prenup.

You sound defensive. No one said those with a challenging past deserves a challenging future. And no nice guy would decide to treat someone like a doormat because her last partner did.

All I was saying is that one partner seems riskier, and less relatable for someone with his history. Not less deserving.

I think you are identifying with Leslie. .

+1.

Gerry was just trying to answer the question about what "clicked" for him during overnights. He wasn't trying to shame Leslie, but it IS a comparative process. So he HAD to look at what one person was like vs. what the other person is like, and then decide which one feels more in sync with his own experiences and goals. He was fine with Leslie. But, when you was with Theresa, it felt like a better match. That's all he was saying. By necessity it was comparative. And I wish he had been more aloof in answering. But, he was being honest about what differences mattered to him.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone think Gerry was an even bigger @ss to Leslie tonight? His saying he picked the woman who "knows how to nurture a relationship" seemed like a very mean dig at Leslie. He has a terrible mean streak imo and I completely believe he made that weight comment to his ex.

Someone got mad when I said much earlier in the thread that Leslie’s spotty relationship history was a red flag.

Sorry, but if she has never been in a healthy, longterm relationship, who knows if she is capable if it. If that is what he seeks, Theresa at least knows the drill.

Yes, but he could have talked about their "similar histories and bond" without phrasing it as a direct dig to Leslie. I think it was callous. I get a cold vibe from him, but narcissists are very charming until they're not. The other ladies definitely view him very differently now. They were not happy for this couple, and I believe it's because they now have his number.

I gasped when he said that. "I chose the woman who knows how to nurture a long-term relationship." COME ON. He could simply have said: "I realized the level of trust and understanding between two people who suffered the loss of life-long loves was invaluable." It was framed as Theresa vs. Leslie, and was a low blow. Should Leslie have stayed after infidelity?

He also said in Theresa he was getting an equal partner. That had to sting for Leslie, but it's true she has a poor romantic track record and also probably has no money. Gerry felt for her and was very attracted to her, but he's not the type who wants to take care of a woman. This is crystal clear from his ex's account. It seems his wife took care of him while being the breadwinner for the family. That's the dynamic he's used to and prefers. Theresa is the party with the bigger bank account, but she's okay with that.

Leslie has so much emotional baggage. That's even more important than the money issue, but I agree that was also very important to Gerry.I hope Leslie gets therapy, poor thing.

Concern troll crawls out from under the bridge.

Sorry Theresa is stuck with this yahoo now, but Leslie will be the one better off without him.

How is that trolling? Her emotional pain was hard to watch. It clearly stemmed from her issues and was not really Gerry-specific. If she gets therapy, maybe she'll have more strength and confidence in herself. Fully agree she's better off without that yahoo!

"poor thing"

You can do better.

Anyone who didn't think "poor thing" while she sobbed about "never being picked" on national tv has a sensitivity chip missing.