Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:7 out of 10 Americans view Russia as a top enemy. The 3 of the 10 that do not agree are addicted to porn. Since Russia has cornered the on line market it makes sense.

The west is split on why we fund Ukraine- half want to keep Ukraine free and the other half just like watching Russian people and stuff getting blown up.

It really is a 1+ 1 = 3 taxpayer investment.
Cannot wait for some more modern aircraft and better weapons to get to Ukraine and permitting them to use in Russia.

It seems Russia is content to slug it out with no urgency to end the conflict. Like NATO, it thinks its coming out ahead in the proxy war. NATO pumps Ukraine full of equipment that Ukrainians barely know how to use. Russia then gets to blow up/capture all that NATO equipment more easily than if they faced actual NATO troops.

Its a recipe for a long conflict.

No, they aren't. They already lost more in less than 2 years than they did in all 20 years of Afghanistan. This war is not sustainable for Russia. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

You post as if Ukraine was fighting a country that actually cared about people.
Russia (and to some point Russians) are not wired like Europeans. They really do not care about life/lives of anyone other than (maybe) themselves or immediate family (that is debatable).
No, Russia can go on for a long time. This war is not that expensive for them and as previously stated; not until you hit maybe the 5m KIA would they even notice.

Putin Will probably die (of natural causes or whatever) before this war ends; and then a new fuhrer will step in; maybe end the war, maybe not. Then repeat the cycle in 15 years after Russia rebuilds its military again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that there are zero Ukrainian living Nazis? Just wanted to confirm.

Just wait til you hear about Russia's Nazi Task Force Rusich (Nazis), Nazi DPR Somalia and Sparta Battalions, Varyag Battalion, Svarozich Battalian, Ratibor Battalion, or that Wagner PMC is named after Hitler's favorite composer and that its leadership like Dmitri Utkin are avowed Nazis.

It's not even funny that Russia sent actual Nazis to supposedly "de-Nazify" Ukraine.

Not PP you were replying to, but it seems to me, as a western European, that eastern Europe just has a number of toxic males who do the neo-Nazi/homophobe/xenophobe thing, more so than western Europe. We have them too in my country, but I feel not as many. There is really no difference in the percentage of Ukrainians and Russians who fall into that category... it's just that one country decided to invade the other, which is ENTIRELY UNACCEPTABLE.

It's truly bizarre for people to try and characterize Ukraine as "nazi" or needing "denazification" when Zelenskyy, Yermak and many other prominent leaders of Ukraine are in fact Jews. Jews voted into office by a wide public majority. Since when do nazis vote for Jews? Ukraine is second only to Israel in terms of Jewish leadership.

Russia, on the other hand, cannot even remotely say the same.

Bottom line is that Ukraine -- like every other European country -- has Neo-Nazis. Let's move on.

Non-European countries have plenty of neo-nazis too. Not sure what you're driving at saying "European country"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:7 out of 10 Americans view Russia as a top enemy. The 3 of the 10 that do not agree are addicted to porn. Since Russia has cornered the on line market it makes sense.

The west is split on why we fund Ukraine- half want to keep Ukraine free and the other half just like watching Russian people and stuff getting blown up.

It really is a 1+ 1 = 3 taxpayer investment.
Cannot wait for some more modern aircraft and better weapons to get to Ukraine and permitting them to use in Russia.

It seems Russia is content to slug it out with no urgency to end the conflict. Like NATO, it thinks its coming out ahead in the proxy war. NATO pumps Ukraine full of equipment that Ukrainians barely know how to use. Russia then gets to blow up/capture all that NATO equipment more easily than if they faced actual NATO troops.

Its a recipe for a long conflict.

No, they aren't. They already lost more in less than 2 years than they did in all 20 years of Afghanistan. This war is not sustainable for Russia. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

You post as if Ukraine was fighting a country that actually cared about people.
Russia (and to some point Russians) are not wired like Europeans. They really do not care about life/lives of anyone other than (maybe) themselves or immediate family (that is debatable).
No, Russia can go on for a long time. This war is not that expensive for them and as previously stated; not until you hit maybe the 5m KIA would they even notice.

Putin Will probably die (of natural causes or whatever) before this war ends; and then a new fuhrer will step in; maybe end the war, maybe not. Then repeat the cycle in 15 years after Russia rebuilds its military again.

Really? Then why did they get out of Afghanistan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that there are zero Ukrainian living Nazis? Just wanted to confirm.

Just wait til you hear about Russia's Nazi Task Force Rusich (Nazis), Nazi DPR Somalia and Sparta Battalions, Varyag Battalion, Svarozich Battalian, Ratibor Battalion, or that Wagner PMC is named after Hitler's favorite composer and that its leadership like Dmitri Utkin are avowed Nazis.

It's not even funny that Russia sent actual Nazis to supposedly "de-Nazify" Ukraine.

Not PP you were replying to, but it seems to me, as a western European, that eastern Europe just has a number of toxic males who do the neo-Nazi/homophobe/xenophobe thing, more so than western Europe. We have them too in my country, but I feel not as many. There is really no difference in the percentage of Ukrainians and Russians who fall into that category... it's just that one country decided to invade the other, which is ENTIRELY UNACCEPTABLE.

It's truly bizarre for people to try and characterize Ukraine as "nazi" or needing "denazification" when Zelenskyy, Yermak and many other prominent leaders of Ukraine are in fact Jews. Jews voted into office by a wide public majority. Since when do nazis vote for Jews? Ukraine is second only to Israel in terms of Jewish leadership.

Russia, on the other hand, cannot even remotely say the same.

LOL being Jewish is not a cure against Nazi-like attitude toward other groups. I mean Israel vs. Palestine? Hello? Being Jewish didn't save Israel from becoming an apartheid state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that there are zero Ukrainian living Nazis? Just wanted to confirm.

Dp- no. They are saying that Russia sucks. All they know how to do is lose. Stay on topic.

LOL right, that's why it's taking more and more money and stuff to fight them. Why don't they lose already since you think this is all they know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:7 out of 10 Americans view Russia as a top enemy. The 3 of the 10 that do not agree are addicted to porn. Since Russia has cornered the on line market it makes sense.

The west is split on why we fund Ukraine- half want to keep Ukraine free and the other half just like watching Russian people and stuff getting blown up.

It really is a 1+ 1 = 3 taxpayer investment.
Cannot wait for some more modern aircraft and better weapons to get to Ukraine and permitting them to use in Russia.

It seems Russia is content to slug it out with no urgency to end the conflict. Like NATO, it thinks its coming out ahead in the proxy war. NATO pumps Ukraine full of equipment that Ukrainians barely know how to use. Russia then gets to blow up/capture all that NATO equipment more easily than if they faced actual NATO troops.

Its a recipe for a long conflict.

No, they aren't. They already lost more in less than 2 years than they did in all 20 years of Afghanistan. This war is not sustainable for Russia. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

You post as if Ukraine was fighting a country that actually cared about people.
Russia (and to some point Russians) are not wired like Europeans. They really do not care about life/lives of anyone other than (maybe) themselves or immediate family (that is debatable).
No, Russia can go on for a long time. This war is not that expensive for them and as previously stated; not until you hit maybe the 5m KIA would they even notice.

Putin Will probably die (of natural causes or whatever) before this war ends; and then a new fuhrer will step in; maybe end the war, maybe not. Then repeat the cycle in 15 years after Russia rebuilds its military again.

Really? Then why did they get out of Afghanistan?

They didn't have as much money then. US aid was bringing down one aircraft a day.
Since then Europe has cut its energy development, giving Russia more money for military adventures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:7 out of 10 Americans view Russia as a top enemy. The 3 of the 10 that do not agree are addicted to porn. Since Russia has cornered the on line market it makes sense.

The west is split on why we fund Ukraine- half want to keep Ukraine free and the other half just like watching Russian people and stuff getting blown up.

It really is a 1+ 1 = 3 taxpayer investment.
Cannot wait for some more modern aircraft and better weapons to get to Ukraine and permitting them to use in Russia.

It seems Russia is content to slug it out with no urgency to end the conflict. Like NATO, it thinks its coming out ahead in the proxy war. NATO pumps Ukraine full of equipment that Ukrainians barely know how to use. Russia then gets to blow up/capture all that NATO equipment more easily than if they faced actual NATO troops.

Its a recipe for a long conflict.

No, they aren't. They already lost more in less than 2 years than they did in all 20 years of Afghanistan. This war is not sustainable for Russia. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

You post as if Ukraine was fighting a country that actually cared about people.
Russia (and to some point Russians) are not wired like Europeans. They really do not care about life/lives of anyone other than (maybe) themselves or immediate family (that is debatable).
No, Russia can go on for a long time. This war is not that expensive for them and as previously stated; not until you hit maybe the 5m KIA would they even notice.

Putin Will probably die (of natural causes or whatever) before this war ends; and then a new fuhrer will step in; maybe end the war, maybe not. Then repeat the cycle in 15 years after Russia rebuilds its military again.

Really? Then why did they get out of Afghanistan?

It had nothing to do with Russian casualties. The baltics and half the Soviet Union countries were basically bankrupt and in revolt.

The kids dying in Afghanistan were mostly not Russian, they were from countries already pissed off at Russia for a terrible economic situation and lousy living standard.

Russia has a history of killing its own people without any regard or regret. It does not phase them, they are used to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:7 out of 10 Americans view Russia as a top enemy. The 3 of the 10 that do not agree are addicted to porn. Since Russia has cornered the on line market it makes sense.

The west is split on why we fund Ukraine- half want to keep Ukraine free and the other half just like watching Russian people and stuff getting blown up.

It really is a 1+ 1 = 3 taxpayer investment.
Cannot wait for some more modern aircraft and better weapons to get to Ukraine and permitting them to use in Russia.

It seems Russia is content to slug it out with no urgency to end the conflict. Like NATO, it thinks its coming out ahead in the proxy war. NATO pumps Ukraine full of equipment that Ukrainians barely know how to use. Russia then gets to blow up/capture all that NATO equipment more easily than if they faced actual NATO troops.

Its a recipe for a long conflict.

No, they aren't. They already lost more in less than 2 years than they did in all 20 years of Afghanistan. This war is not sustainable for Russia. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

You post as if Ukraine was fighting a country that actually cared about people.
Russia (and to some point Russians) are not wired like Europeans. They really do not care about life/lives of anyone other than (maybe) themselves or immediate family (that is debatable).
No, Russia can go on for a long time. This war is not that expensive for them and as previously stated; not until you hit maybe the 5m KIA would they even notice.

Putin Will probably die (of natural causes or whatever) before this war ends; and then a new fuhrer will step in; maybe end the war, maybe not. Then repeat the cycle in 15 years after Russia rebuilds its military again.

Really? Then why did they get out of Afghanistan?

It had nothing to do with Russian casualties. The baltics and half the Soviet Union countries were basically bankrupt and in revolt.

The kids dying in Afghanistan were mostly not Russian, they were from countries already pissed off at Russia for a terrible economic situation and lousy living standard.

Russia has a history of killing its own people without any regard or regret. It does not phase them, they are used to it.

Another PSA that Soviet and Russian isn't the same thing.

[Anonymous]

The most shocking thing in the New Yorker article is that it was allowed to run. Perhaps this signals the turn toward covering the war as it is, rather than propaganda of what we'd like it to be. It's all there. Poorly supplied, poorly trained, killed in very high numbers. Not acknowledged by the government.

[Anonymous]

What do you mean,”allowed to run,” are you trying to say that our legacy media aren’t impartial?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that there are zero Ukrainian living Nazis? Just wanted to confirm.

Your argument is that if there is a Nazi in Ukraine, regardless that the country's president is Jewish, it's justification for Russia to commit war crimes, rape, pillage, execute prisoners, kidnap children, assassinate journalists and opposition leaders?

The question you have to ask yourself is why didn't Putin ask Zelensky (a Jew) to look into any Nazi issues a year ago? But a year ago, wasn't the invasion supposed to have been about 'protecting Russians in Donbass'?

It may be better for you to stop parroting Russian propaganda and making a decision whether this is what you support:

"Russian forces had set up a mobile crematorium outside of Tokmak"
"Locals complain of a constant corpse stench in the southeastern part of the city, especially at night,"
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-army-burning-their-own-dead-hide-massive-losses-ukraine-says-1780266

“Twenty-one mobile crematoriums have been ordered by the Russian leadership in China,”
“Putin has been informed that the order is ready and will be delivered to Russia via third countries in the near future.”
"It claimed that the Russian dictator "is not embarrassed by the colossal losses” from the war he inflicted on Europe - but the scale is “disturbing” to ordinary people. As a result, according to the president, the losses must be ‘smeared over time’, and the crematoriums have been ordered for this.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-orders-21-mobile-28994545

"In Kursk and Rostov-on-Don, the Russians are building large-scale facilities for sorting, analysing, and storing the corpses"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-builds-gigantic-facilities-sorting-102900309.html

“Crematoriums are growing exponentially in Russia,”
"the 33 crematoriums currently operating in Russia are unable to meet surging demand."
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/27/russias-funeral-industry-booms-amid-heavy-war-losses-a80062

Stop being a stooge for a corrupt government driving your country into extinction. Just stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean,”allowed to run,” are you trying to say that our legacy media aren’t impartial?

Oh dear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that there are zero Ukrainian living Nazis? Just wanted to confirm.

Your argument is that if there is a Nazi in Ukraine, regardless that the country's president is Jewish, it's justification for Russia to commit war crimes, rape, pillage, execute prisoners, kidnap children, assassinate journalists and opposition leaders?

The question you have to ask yourself is why didn't Putin ask Zelensky (a Jew) to look into any Nazi issues a year ago? But a year ago, wasn't the invasion supposed to have been about 'protecting Russians in Donbass'?

It may be better for you to stop parroting Russian propaganda and making a decision whether this is what you support:

"Russian forces had set up a mobile crematorium outside of Tokmak"
"Locals complain of a constant corpse stench in the southeastern part of the city, especially at night,"
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-army-burning-their-own-dead-hide-massive-losses-ukraine-says-1780266

“Twenty-one mobile crematoriums have been ordered by the Russian leadership in China,”
“Putin has been informed that the order is ready and will be delivered to Russia via third countries in the near future.”
"It claimed that the Russian dictator "is not embarrassed by the colossal losses” from the war he inflicted on Europe - but the scale is “disturbing” to ordinary people. As a result, according to the president, the losses must be ‘smeared over time’, and the crematoriums have been ordered for this.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-orders-21-mobile-28994545

"In Kursk and Rostov-on-Don, the Russians are building large-scale facilities for sorting, analysing, and storing the corpses"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-builds-gigantic-facilities-sorting-102900309.html

“Crematoriums are growing exponentially in Russia,”
"the 33 crematoriums currently operating in Russia are unable to meet surging demand."
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/27/russias-funeral-industry-booms-amid-heavy-war-losses-a80062

Stop being a stooge for a corrupt government driving your country into extinction. Just stop.

Wartime leaders gloss over losses. That's not new. Zelensky never acknowledged, for instance, just how many casualties Bakhmut has claimed, for no good reason. Just like when he told G7 that "right now, there is nothing there but dead Russians". Omitting to add that there were just as many of his own dead countrymen. Fighting with 1920-era machinery.

[Anonymous]

I know ordinary people are just pawns but what is the best way to stop civilian casualties on both sides? Seems like Russia can’t be stopped from bombing Ukraine. Seems like Ukraine is getting better and better at bombing Russia too. Both sides are saying it’s strictly strategic and military objects but it’s not so.
What is the way to stop the war while minimizing civilian casualties? Russia isn’t puling out. Ukraine isn’t giving in.
There needs to be someone who actually cares about civilians. Neither side does.
I am probably completely naive but it’s so sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:7 out of 10 Americans view Russia as a top enemy. The 3 of the 10 that do not agree are addicted to porn. Since Russia has cornered the on line market it makes sense.

The west is split on why we fund Ukraine- half want to keep Ukraine free and the other half just like watching Russian people and stuff getting blown up.

It really is a 1+ 1 = 3 taxpayer investment.
Cannot wait for some more modern aircraft and better weapons to get to Ukraine and permitting them to use in Russia.

It seems Russia is content to slug it out with no urgency to end the conflict. Like NATO, it thinks its coming out ahead in the proxy war. NATO pumps Ukraine full of equipment that Ukrainians barely know how to use. Russia then gets to blow up/capture all that NATO equipment more easily than if they faced actual NATO troops.

Its a recipe for a long conflict.

No, they aren't. They already lost more in less than 2 years than they did in all 20 years of Afghanistan. This war is not sustainable for Russia. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

You post as if Ukraine was fighting a country that actually cared about people.
Russia (and to some point Russians) are not wired like Europeans. They really do not care about life/lives of anyone other than (maybe) themselves or immediate family (that is debatable).
No, Russia can go on for a long time. This war is not that expensive for them and as previously stated; not until you hit maybe the 5m KIA would they even notice.

Putin Will probably die (of natural causes or whatever) before this war ends; and then a new fuhrer will step in; maybe end the war, maybe not. Then repeat the cycle in 15 years after Russia rebuilds its military again.

Really? Then why did they get out of Afghanistan?

They didn't have as much money then. US aid was bringing down one aircraft a day.
Since then Europe has cut its energy development, giving Russia more money for military adventures.

Meanwhile the Russian Federation is even weaker than the Soviet Union was. And Europe cutting energy development is a LOSS for Russia.
You seem to have absolutely everything upside-down in your head.