ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Interesting take, although probably not worth the dual registration headache.

Being able to chose from all tournaments is probably more important than any perceived "business advantage" you could get from an 8/1

Tournaments are the least of their worries. I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing tournaments setting up their own age groupings in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Interesting take, although probably not worth the dual registration headache.

Being able to chose from all tournaments is probably more important than any perceived "business advantage" you could get from an 8/1

Tournaments are the least of their worries. I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing tournaments setting up their own age groupings in the future.

Great business plan for tournament organizers, exclude half the possible teams to sign up…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Interesting take, although probably not worth the dual registration headache.

Being able to chose from all tournaments is probably more important than any perceived "business advantage" you could get from an 8/1

Tournaments are the least of their worries. I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing tournaments setting up their own age groupings in the future.

Great business plan for tournament organizers, exclude half the possible teams to sign up…

Tournaments will just let the teams with older players play against younger teams. They want the $$$ they dont care about a couple of months differences in age.

The problem with all the exemptions is that its a slippery slope that ultimately leads to GY. In grade year grouped sports parents literally hold their kid back in school so they can be bigger and stronger than everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like we're all wasting money this upcoming year, waiting for all our kids to be on new teams next year. The decision should have been made at the end of 2024 to have this change be implemented for the upcoming year.

Definitely a wasted year if Q4 and Sept born players accept a demotion to a lower team for next year. Might as well just wait to practice in December with a bunch of new teams to set them up for Fall 2026.

If that's the case this year, you think they'll be ready for the following year? Granted it's a new player pool (Sept-Aug) but those in the best place to take advantage are the ones already nearest to the top.

The reality is every season is different and being on an elite team is not promised beyond the CURRENT season, so get the most out of whatever opportunity you have. Teams change every year regardless. No doubt probably more with the BY to SY switch but there are a ton of other factors that also come into play.

Tough to predict so just speculation but I can't imagine any scenario other than the next spring season being chaos as players looking for better teams and teams looking for better players even more so than usual as a third of the players become eligible for a new age category. Aka, everyone trying for the first mover advantage.DCUM is already packed with spring complaints of kids outside the team practicing and guesting for tournaments. Next year is going to be another level of musical chairs

So exactly the same as it always is.

Once all the different leagues decision on BY or SY is clear. Parents will start moving themselves around to whatever makes the most sense for their kid.

I bet GA and ECNL have jointly planned that GA delay announcing what they will do. They collectively want to keep the parents off-balance with as much uncertainty for as long as possible. If that's not true (and it's more about internal factors/rivalry), that's still the functional result.

Announce what?

ECNL / USCS have already announced that school year registration will be used in 26/27. Girls Academy has not made an announcement yet. So why would it need to be joint?

Guess you didn't get the joke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Or maybe 9/1 with a two month pervious exemption with approval. This way ALL trapped players are addressed.

This would force ECNL to do the same. Which was what the SY+60 guy was saying for multiple pages. A single cutoff date doesnt work by itself because theres still trapped players.

Except after you're done fixing every trapped player situation you create a new problem related to age differences as the 12-month window expands far too much where the youngest in whatever group are ultimately disadvantaged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Or maybe 9/1 with a two month pervious exemption with approval. This way ALL trapped players are addressed.

This would force ECNL to do the same. Which was what the SY+60 guy was saying for multiple pages. A single cutoff date doesnt work by itself because theres still trapped players.

ECNL doesn't care about GA. It did not pick any trash NPL club as GA did. There is no competition in the girls' league.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Or maybe 9/1 with a two month pervious exemption with approval. This way ALL trapped players are addressed.

This would force ECNL to do the same. Which was what the SY+60 guy was saying for multiple pages. A single cutoff date doesnt work by itself because theres still trapped players.

ECNL doesn't care about GA. It did not pick any trash NPL club as GA did. There is no competition in the girls' league.

NPL is part of the ECNL (us club) eco system. Is it a good look that they want GA teams instead of club from their own tier system?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Or maybe 9/1 with a two month pervious exemption with approval. This way ALL trapped players are addressed.

This would force ECNL to do the same. Which was what the SY+60 guy was saying for multiple pages. A single cutoff date doesnt work by itself because theres still trapped players.

Except after you're done fixing every trapped player situation you create a new problem related to age differences as the 12-month window expands far too much where the youngest in whatever group are ultimately disadvantaged.

ECNL clubs with a single date cutoff of 9/1 will be welcome to play in GA tournamants. GA teams technically wont be able to play in ECNL tournamants if GA allows 2 months if additional exemptions to address all trapped players.

In reality this is how things will work. ECNL clubs will allow GA teams with 2 month exemption players to play in their tournaments because they want the money.

Over time if GA implements a 2 month exemption ECNL will be forced to do the same so everything is just easier to manage for clubs.

This is likely why GA is sitting on the BY/SY decision. If they announce last minute it will force ECNL to follow them instead of the other way around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Or maybe 9/1 with a two month pervious exemption with approval. This way ALL trapped players are addressed.

This would force ECNL to do the same. Which was what the SY+60 guy was saying for multiple pages. A single cutoff date doesnt work by itself because theres still trapped players.

ECNL doesn't care about GA. It did not pick any trash NPL club as GA did. There is no competition in the girls' league.

There is enough money out there for both leagues to thrive. As long as clubs are willing to pay yearly dues the leagues keep growing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA/MLSn announcements will be later this summer. They will be in line with rest of landscape and ECNL, otherwise they shoot themselves in the foot. Although could be fun to see the total effing chaos with many kids even switching mid season, if for some strange reason they do stay birth year.

Just for the pure entertainment value alone it would be glorious if GA went from 8/1 instead of 9/1. The extra pages that would add to this thread would be awesome! I see GA doing whatever helps them get just even a few extra kids.

Or maybe 9/1 with a two month pervious exemption with approval. This way ALL trapped players are addressed.

This would force ECNL to do the same. Which was what the SY+60 guy was saying for multiple pages. A single cutoff date doesnt work by itself because theres still trapped players.

ECNL doesn't care about GA. It did not pick any trash NPL club as GA did. There is no competition in the girls' league.

I guess GA picked up those trash ECNL clubs too?

[Anonymous]

Since when do ECNL tournaments (I'm assuming they are referring to Showcases) allow GA or any other none ECNL teams to play? Or for that matter - GA and USYS do not allow ECNL in. I don't get the conversation about this - as it doesn't happen. Half this BS would stop if ECNL or GA just allowed open showcases - but they won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since when do ECNL tournaments (I'm assuming they are referring to Showcases) allow GA or any other none ECNL teams to play? Or for that matter - GA and USYS do not allow ECNL in. I don't get the conversation about this - as it doesn't happen. Half this BS would stop if ECNL or GA just allowed open showcases - but they won't.

There are plenty of showcases which have both ECNL and GA teams. Last weekend had Supercopa, Real Colorado Showcase, PDA Showcase, Delco Players Cup where a few teams played each other. https://youthsoccergames.com/ecnl_vs_ga

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since when do ECNL tournaments (I'm assuming they are referring to Showcases) allow GA or any other none ECNL teams to play? Or for that matter - GA and USYS do not allow ECNL in. I don't get the conversation about this - as it doesn't happen. Half this BS would stop if ECNL or GA just allowed open showcases - but they won't.

People are just using the term showcase interchangeably with tournaments. General FYI some clubs run their own showcases. These are just tournaments without an overall winner. It doesnt need to be a GA or ECNL showcase. Teams from different leagues can all participate.

If the leagues wont work together. I guess it all comes down to who you think is better at representing high level play. Christian Lavars or US Soccer (in the weeds behind GA).

[Anonymous]

Yall are nuts if you think the age cutoffs will be different in any of the leagues…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yall are nuts if you think the age cutoffs will be different in any of the leagues…

You mean like MLSN right now?