CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

[Anonymous]

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/03/study-highlights-ease-spread-covid-19-viruses

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the flu guy yall are pathetic

come back when this thing is killing over 10,000 people

50,000 people die of the flu every year and people don't panic

Yeah, we're just going to sit and wait. That's the strategy? And then what are you going to do?

not panic

Bro, you are seriously the dumbest poster on this thread. Not panicking does not equal doing nothing. Do nothing and millions will die. Doing something (sure, without screaming and setting yourself on fire) will keep it to thousands.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:neither my parents or parents in law appear to be changing their behavior, despite my recommendations. every day is a new excuse to go out somewhere in public, a separate reason that "its ok" and some sort of exception to the need focus on social distancing.
yesterday, a new trash can at wal mart was a crucial need.

and these folks are at moderate risk because of a few run of the mill underlying health conditions.

multiply this by a zillion non-employed old folks (they are ~73-77) who are just restless and need 'go somewhere everyday' because its habit.

these old folks ARENT going to change. we're in for a bumpy ride

I just got off the phone with my 79 year old mom in Florida. She and my 80 year old dad haven’t changed a thing. She went to church this morning. They went to dinner last night. Planning on meeting up with my aunt this afternoon for some shopping.

Same with my parents and every one of my friends parents. All the 70+ folks are currently itching to fly, travel and hang out at large gatherings in public places

Maybe they are tired? DH’s uncle keeps joking that pneumonia is an old man’s best friend.

My parents live in an out of state retirement community and NOBODY there is taking it swriously, or at least not the “cool kids” my parents hang with.
They are going to church (purposely ignore the pastor’s request for no kissing/hugging, dinners, local events, etc. why? Bc “the coronavirus is a liberal democrat hoax that they made up when the impeachment failed.”
I shit you not. I did not know HOW to start responding. Coronavirus is going to hit their commmunity HARD and there is no way I am going to be able to travel out of state, leaving my kids, when they get sick. This is going to be a $hitshow.

[Anonymous]

The number of posters who think they are debating with “panic crazed” people is mind boggling.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN PANIC YET.

Stop making up straw men to debate with. It’s intellectually weak and makes you look more the fool. Want to say the flu is worse? Fine, go grab any one of a dozen articles from doctors and medical professionals that says differently to your beliefs and explain why their arguments are wrong, instead of just debating a fictional opponent created in your own mind.

Step up if you are so brilliant.

[Anonymous]

The freaking national guard.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-10-20-intl-hnk/h_784fb34921999ed90811d28c8f83c0fd

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:neither my parents or parents in law appear to be changing their behavior, despite my recommendations. every day is a new excuse to go out somewhere in public, a separate reason that "its ok" and some sort of exception to the need focus on social distancing.
yesterday, a new trash can at wal mart was a crucial need.

and these folks are at moderate risk because of a few run of the mill underlying health conditions.

multiply this by a zillion non-employed old folks (they are ~73-77) who are just restless and need 'go somewhere everyday' because its habit.

these old folks ARENT going to change. we're in for a bumpy ride

I just got off the phone with my 79 year old mom in Florida. She and my 80 year old dad haven’t changed a thing. She went to church this morning. They went to dinner last night. Planning on meeting up with my aunt this afternoon for some shopping.

Same with my parents and every one of my friends parents. All the 70+ folks are currently itching to fly, travel and hang out at large gatherings in public places

Maybe they are tired? DH’s uncle keeps joking that pneumonia is an old man’s best friend.

My parents live in an out of state retirement community and NOBODY there is taking it swriously, or at least not the “cool kids” my parents hang with.
They are going to church (purposely ignore the pastor’s request for no kissing/hugging, dinners, local events, etc. why? Bc “the coronavirus is a liberal democrat hoax that they made up when the impeachment failed.”
I shit you not. I did not know HOW to start responding. Coronavirus is going to hit their commmunity HARD and there is no way I am going to be able to travel out of state, leaving my kids, when they get sick. This is going to be a $hitshow.

Sadly, they will die. Stupidity will finally kill them. Darwin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very real question: Seattle is theoretically ~7 weeks into community spread. Coastal cities should be into their outbreaks. Shouldn't we already be seeing major increases in hospital admissions, ER visits, ICU overruns? It isn't happening at this point. The situation at the LTC facility has been an absolute nightmare - total hell. But outside of that, are we seeing the doomsday scenario? Should we take some comfort in the fact that this has not become a widespread disaster at this point? Perhaps it simply isn't spreading here the way it has in Italy, or the strain has not been as lethal?

Yep.

Seattle has done some things right to slow the spread. Some of the biggest employers like Microsoft and Amazon are letting people work from home. The UW classes and final exams are now online. There are news photos of how empty downtown Seattle is now during times that used to be busy. The fact that it has not spread faster, in Seattle, could be because they are doing some things right, and should not be used as a comparison to what might happen if there is an outbreak in another major coty.

[Anonymous]

Are there any pre-symptoms for coronavirus? Like I know the symptoms; but I’m interested to know if you have those symptoms were you realize that you were starting to get sick a few days before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very real question: Seattle is theoretically ~7 weeks into community spread. Coastal cities should be into their outbreaks. Shouldn't we already be seeing major increases in hospital admissions, ER visits, ICU overruns? It isn't happening at this point. The situation at the LTC facility has been an absolute nightmare - total hell. But outside of that, are we seeing the doomsday scenario? Should we take some comfort in the fact that this has not become a widespread disaster at this point? Perhaps it simply isn't spreading here the way it has in Italy, or the strain has not been as lethal?

Yep.

Seattle has done some things right to slow the spread. Some of the biggest employers like Microsoft and Amazon are letting people work from home. The UW classes and final exams are now online. There are news photos of how empty downtown Seattle is now during times that used to be busy. The fact that it has not spread faster, in Seattle, could be because they are doing some things right, and should not be used as a comparison to what might happen if there is an outbreak in another major coty.

Cuomo's NY National Guard containment zone is using the National Guard to clean and enforce no large gatherings. Why can't people who live there clean or won't they? No one is contained and people can enter and leave the Cuomo Containment zone. So you might have been exposed and are capable of giving others the virus and go to work, visit out of state or in state, go to a show in NYC. Ride the subway. Sit near a nurse and then what?https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/03/10/coronavirus-new-rochelle-containment-area/

The Seattle area has 10 nursing homes/assisted living facilities with coronavirus patients - deaths at more than 1 facility. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virus-cases-in-at-least-10-seattle-area-nursing-homes/ar-BB10ZT25

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very real question: Seattle is theoretically ~7 weeks into community spread. Coastal cities should be into their outbreaks. Shouldn't we already be seeing major increases in hospital admissions, ER visits, ICU overruns? It isn't happening at this point. The situation at the LTC facility has been an absolute nightmare - total hell. But outside of that, are we seeing the doomsday scenario? Should we take some comfort in the fact that this has not become a widespread disaster at this point? Perhaps it simply isn't spreading here the way it has in Italy, or the strain has not been as lethal?

Also agree. I've been telling myself over and over again in the past two weeks, keep an eye on Seattle and the numbers coming out of Seattle (and now New York). Outside the unfortunate nursing home, there seems to be minimal spread of the virus. Yes, numbers have gone up for positive cases, but there doesn't seem to be a rush to the hospitals for critical care. The virus exploded within that one nursing home, but outside that Seattle is not showing the Wuhan style mass explosion of infection and deaths. If anything, it's closer to South Korea, which had a lot of infected people (and high testing levels finding the infected people) but very few deaths, around 54 out of 8000 infected.

Likewise, in NYC, the virus has been spreading but the numbers of deaths is still zero and very few people have been hospitalized. I can't believe the unfortunate man was just the first man to catch the virus and there must have been others.

Apparently public health models show 2 weeks it will be really bad here.

And in two weeks' time people will be saying two more weeks till it gets really bad. And then when that two weeks is up, people will still be saying just two more weeks.

We will see, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:neither my parents or parents in law appear to be changing their behavior, despite my recommendations. every day is a new excuse to go out somewhere in public, a separate reason that "its ok" and some sort of exception to the need focus on social distancing.
yesterday, a new trash can at wal mart was a crucial need.

and these folks are at moderate risk because of a few run of the mill underlying health conditions.

multiply this by a zillion non-employed old folks (they are ~73-77) who are just restless and need 'go somewhere everyday' because its habit.

these old folks ARENT going to change. we're in for a bumpy ride

I just got off the phone with my 79 year old mom in Florida. She and my 80 year old dad haven’t changed a thing. She went to church this morning. They went to dinner last night. Planning on meeting up with my aunt this afternoon for some shopping.

Same with my parents and every one of my friends parents. All the 70+ folks are currently itching to fly, travel and hang out at large gatherings in public places

Maybe they are tired? DH’s uncle keeps joking that pneumonia is an old man’s best friend.

My parents live in an out of state retirement community and NOBODY there is taking it swriously, or at least not the “cool kids” my parents hang with.
They are going to church (purposely ignore the pastor’s request for no kissing/hugging, dinners, local events, etc. why? Bc “the coronavirus is a liberal democrat hoax that they made up when the impeachment failed.”
I shit you not. I did not know HOW to start responding. Coronavirus is going to hit their commmunity HARD and there is no way I am going to be able to travel out of state, leaving my kids, when they get sick. This is going to be a $hitshow.

Sadly, they will die. Stupidity will finally kill them. Darwin.

They’ve already reproduced so that hardly helps us evolve as a species.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those saying it is not spreading here in the US, we are now up to 849 cases. Of course, could be because we are now testing more...


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-10-20-intl-hnk/index.html

They aren’t testing everyone. The spouse of an infected Georgetown Church patron can’t get tested. My doctor friend treated at covid-19 patient and he said the hospital is not testing doctors and nurses.

Spouses tend to get it. What was the rationale given to the spouse as to no testing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there any pre-symptoms for coronavirus? Like I know the symptoms; but I’m interested to know if you have those symptoms were you realize that you were starting to get sick a few days before.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/862243.page

[Anonymous]

The UK's junior health minister has tested positive for coronavirus.

[Anonymous]

I think this is one that is never going to go away and is going to remain a particular risk factor for older people in particular by virtue of it being tolerable by younger people.