2024 Washington DC area College commits

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

That is not for seniors. They could change things and do weighting or other things. Have you talked to them??? Posting here will do nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Why do you care what the grade’s average is? I don’t understand? You should only care about your gpa which you should know by now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

[Anonymous]

National Cathedral School
https://www.instagram.com/cathedral2024/?igsh=MXU2MnAyczJqd3BucA%3D%3D

Sidwell Friends School (SFS)
https://www.instagram.com/sidwellseniors2024

Maret
https://www.instagram.com/maretfrogs2024

Georgetown Day school (GDS)
https://www.instagram.com/gdsseniors2024

Holton Arms
https://www.instagram.com/holtonarms2024

Landon
https://www.instagram.com/landonseniors24

Potomac School
https://www.instagram.com/pmacdecisions2024/

Georgetown Visitation ("Visitation"/ "Visi")
https://www.instagram.com/v1s1collegedecisions2024/

Madeira
https://www.instagram.com/madeiradecisions24/

Washington International School ("WIS")
https://www.instagram.com/wisclassof2024/

Flint Hill
https://www.instagram.com/flinthilldecisions24

Edmund Burke
https://www.instagram.com/burkeseniors/

Field
https://www.instagram.com/fieldgrads.2024/

Bullis School
https://www.instagram.com/bullisseniors24/

Sandy Springs Friends School (SSFS)
https://www.instagram.com/ssfs24seniors

St. Stephens and St. Agnes School (DC)
https://www.instagram.com/sssasdecisions2024/

St. Andrews Episcopal School (SAES)
https://www.instagram.com/saes24decisions

Connelly School of the Holy Child (Holy Child)
https://www.instagram.com/hcseniors24

The Academy of the Holy Cross ("Holy Cross")
https://www.instagram.com/ahc_seniors24/

St. John’s College (high)
https://www.instagram.com/sjc2024seniors

Stone Ridge
https://www.instagram.com/srseniors24/

Waldorf (Note Waldorf Schools use one page for nation-wide)
https://www.instagram.com/waldorfdecisions24/?igsh=azNkaWkzM2treHNy

DeMatha
https://www.instagram.com/dematha24seniors/

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Walt Whitman (Bethesda):
https://www.instagram.com/vikingdestinations2024/

Winston Churchill (Potomac):
https://www.instagram.com/beyondthebulldog2024/

Walter Johnson High School ("WJ")
https://www.instagram.com/wherethewildcatsgo24/

Thomas S. Wootton High School ("Wootton")
https://www.instagram.com/peaceoutpatriots24/

Bethesda Chevy Chase High School ("BCC")
https://www.instagram.com/bccdecisions_2024/

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Northern Virginia nationally recognized pubilc:

Thomas Jefferson (Fairfax County)
https://www.instagram.com/tj2023destinations (last year)
https://www.instagram.com/tj2024destinations

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Additional school(s) for informational context:

Dalton School (prestigious NYC school) added for perspective:
https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/

Key School (Annapolis, MD):
https://www.instagram.com/keyclassof2024/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

Are you going to get a tutor?

[Anonymous]

Can someone fix the Landon link?

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have information on smaller private schools like Fairfax Christian in Virginia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Why do you care what the grade’s average is? I don’t understand? You should only care about your gpa which you should know by now?

Because the class average determines ranking. Class average is (sometimes) reflective of rigor so colleges care about the students' performance given the rigor of the school. Supposedly, not sure that it's working out that way anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

Pull your younger daughter out of NCS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

Are you going to get a tutor?

DP. This seems like an obnoxious reply and does address this posters concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret has less work and grade deflation than NCS or Sidwell (average GPA is around 3.7 vs 3.5 at NCS)

Is this confirmed as true? That is much higher as 3.7 is the cut off for many colleges. Friends who worked in admissions for colleges even admit this.

No, it’s not true. However, this is DCUM where people lie about everything to try to make a point. Maret’s mean (average) GPA for graduating seniors has ranged from 3.59 (2021) to 3.70 (2023). The average GPA for the c/o 2024 is a 3.64.

So, the answer is 3.64, which is historically more typical for Maret.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1697637161/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2023_2024.pdf

Ok, so the average GPA for the last Maret graduating class (2023) was a 3.7 and I posted it was a 3.7 and yet I'm lying to make a point?
OK.

No, the average and most recent Maret GPA (c/o 2024) is a 3.64. You made it sound like a 3.70 is typical. It is not.

3.64 is still high

It’s high-ish, but there’s a noticeable difference between a 3.64 and a 3.70. I’m also not sure that a 3.64 is much higher than Sidwell’s average. However, it’s hard to tell since Sidwell doesn’t rank or calculate GPAs until junior year. Any Sidwell parents, with facts (not opinions) care to chime in?

It's all much higher than NCS. They have told us that the average is 3.5.
Sigh.
This can't be good.

Have you talked to NCS? Complaining here will do absolutely nothing! I’m starting to think you’re not really an Ncs parent because you should not really care what the entire grade’s gpa is but rather at this point you should know what your own daughters GPA is no? What matters is your daughters gpa. If it is a 3.5 then yes I would be worried.

That's a good point. My daughter's GPA is not a 3.5 but I have a younger daughter who does not do as well in school and I guess I worry that the school would allow teachers to get an average GPA of 3.5.
Yes, the junior class has been told that the classes' average GPA is a 3.5.

What does school say when you express these concerns???? You realize posting here does nothing??????