Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington, where life is viewed as a zero sum game.

Arlington, where a few noisy people think "health" consists solely of prevention of a respiratory virus that we have very successful vaccines for and healthy kids under 12 are at less risk of complications for than the seasonal flu. Plus, that prevention must come at the expense of the infinite number of other aspects of physical health and mental health (including academics and social development)

The most mentally taxing aspect of the pandemic has turned out to be dealing with anti-vaxers, anti-maskers, anti-testers, etc.

Keep your kid home if you can't abide by basic rules of society. Be an oppositional jerk in your own home.

DP. Yes, vaccines for those eligible, masking, and following all guidance for schools. I’m sensing, though, a subtle shift, now, toward gentle bullying of those who are hesitating about asymptomatic testing.

[Anonymous]

NP. There’s no “basic rule of society” saying people need to have their asymptomatic kids tested weekly, especially if the kid is already vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington, where life is viewed as a zero sum game.

Arlington, where a few noisy people think "health" consists solely of prevention of a respiratory virus that we have very successful vaccines for and healthy kids under 12 are at less risk of complications for than the seasonal flu. Plus, that prevention must come at the expense of the infinite number of other aspects of physical health and mental health (including academics and social development)

The most mentally taxing aspect of the pandemic has turned out to be dealing with anti-vaxers, anti-maskers, anti-testers, etc.

Keep your kid home if you can't abide by basic rules of society. Be an oppositional jerk in your own home.

DP. Yes, vaccines for those eligible, masking, and following all guidance for schools. I’m sensing, though, a subtle shift, now, toward gentle bullying of those who are hesitating about asymptomatic testing.

I won't be subtle.

I have zero patience for selfish people who can't do the most basic things to keep our kids in school.

Vaccinate, mask, test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. There’s no “basic rule of society” saying people need to have their asymptomatic kids tested weekly, especially if the kid is already vaccinated.

so·cial con·tract
/ˈsōSHəl kənˈtrakt,ˈkäntrakt/
noun
noun: social contract; plural noun: social contracts; noun: social compact; plural noun: social compacts
an implicit agreement among the members of a society to cooperate for social benefits, for example by sacrificing some individual freedom for state protection.

We do things for the greater good. Or "society" just doesn't work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington, where life is viewed as a zero sum game.

Arlington, where a few noisy people think "health" consists solely of prevention of a respiratory virus that we have very successful vaccines for and healthy kids under 12 are at less risk of complications for than the seasonal flu. Plus, that prevention must come at the expense of the infinite number of other aspects of physical health and mental health (including academics and social development)

The most mentally taxing aspect of the pandemic has turned out to be dealing with anti-vaxers, anti-maskers, anti-testers, etc.

Keep your kid home if you can't abide by basic rules of society. Be an oppositional jerk in your own home.

DP. Yes, vaccines for those eligible, masking, and following all guidance for schools. I’m sensing, though, a subtle shift, now, toward gentle bullying of those who are hesitating about asymptomatic testing.

I won't be subtle.

I have zero patience for selfish people who can't do the most basic things to keep our kids in school.

Vaccinate, mask, test.

all of these things are not the same. And asking to discuss them does not make people 'selfish'.

vaccinate- sure that's an easy one. Do it.

Mask-- well, its probably a good idea, but it does come with a cost. so much communication is lost when you speak through masks. Is that outweighed by the benefits to wearing masks? Probably... but asking to discuss it, or wanting research, etc- does not make someone 'selfish' or suggest they aren't willing to do 'basic things.'

test? test asymptomatic? that are unlikely to be spreading? and leads to lots of needless quarantines? that's a whole new kettle of fish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would rather risk unchecked spread for the extra 5 minutes of learning that might be lost if they don't pull kids out during lunch? All of us that watched the last 1.5 years go down know full well there is a huge amount of filler in the school day. I'm OK with my kids missing some of that filler in order to be sure they aren't unknowingly spreading to their classmates or teachers.

Spreading to teachers? Those teachers are mandated to be vaccinated. Are you one of these anti-vaxxers that think vaccines don't work? This is exactly why they were put to the front of the line to get a vaccine!

I'm not an anti-vaxxer at all, but where have you been the last month? Vaccinated people are getting this. I will give up 5 minutes of my kids learning during a week to get them tested to make sure they are not unknowingly positive and spreading the virus...what exactly is your problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No way am I signing up for this. If my asymptomatic kid tests positive, all three of his siblings need to miss two+ weeks of school? No way, especially since no one else in their class will have to quarantine.

+1 And sports too. Their entire teams.

Look we don’t test for flu after people are vaccinated with the flu. if we did, there would be asymptomatic people testing positive. Many will test positive after being fully vaccinated with no ability to transmit the virus.

This will cause shutting down of activities, quarantining without need, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way am I signing up for this. If my asymptomatic kid tests positive, all three of his siblings need to miss two+ weeks of school? No way, especially since no one else in their class will have to quarantine.

+1 And sports too. Their entire teams.

Look we don’t test for flu after people are vaccinated with the flu. if we did, there would be asymptomatic people testing positive. Many will test positive after being fully vaccinated with no ability to transmit the virus.

This will cause shutting down of activities, quarantining without need, etc.

I want to add the caveat that my kids are in age groups where everyone can be vaccinated.

If I had elementary kids, my answer would be different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would rather risk unchecked spread for the extra 5 minutes of learning that might be lost if they don't pull kids out during lunch? All of us that watched the last 1.5 years go down know full well there is a huge amount of filler in the school day. I'm OK with my kids missing some of that filler in order to be sure they aren't unknowingly spreading to their classmates or teachers.

Spreading to teachers? Those teachers are mandated to be vaccinated. Are you one of these anti-vaxxers that think vaccines don't work? This is exactly why they were put to the front of the line to get a vaccine!

I'm not an anti-vaxxer at all, but where have you been the last month? Vaccinated people are getting this. I will give up 5 minutes of my kids learning during a week to get them tested to make sure they are not unknowingly positive and spreading the virus...what exactly is your problem?

COVID is not going away. There's not going to be Zero COVID. And vaccinated people are getting the equivalent of a cold or less. That is the purpose of vaccination.

It sounds like you're saying vaccines don't work then. Stop with the anti-vax, stay in your home forever nonsense. It's causing people to not get vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way am I signing up for this. If my asymptomatic kid tests positive, all three of his siblings need to miss two+ weeks of school? No way, especially since no one else in their class will have to quarantine.

+1 And sports too. Their entire teams.

Look we don’t test for flu after people are vaccinated with the flu. if we did, there would be asymptomatic people testing positive. Many will test positive after being fully vaccinated with no ability to transmit the virus.

This will cause shutting down of activities, quarantining without need, etc.

I want to add the caveat that my kids are in age groups where everyone can be vaccinated.

If I had elementary kids, my answer would be different.

So you are are saying you are OK sending your kid to school and sports practice with asymptomatic COVID? WTH?

Why TF do you think "many will test positive after being fully vaccinated with no ability to transmit the virus"?


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html
"Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others.

For people infected with the Delta variant, similar amounts of viral genetic material have been found among both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people."


Sigh...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington, where life is viewed as a zero sum game.

Arlington, where a few noisy people think "health" consists solely of prevention of a respiratory virus that we have very successful vaccines for and healthy kids under 12 are at less risk of complications for than the seasonal flu. Plus, that prevention must come at the expense of the infinite number of other aspects of physical health and mental health (including academics and social development)

The most mentally taxing aspect of the pandemic has turned out to be dealing with anti-vaxers, anti-maskers, anti-testers, etc.

Keep your kid home if you can't abide by basic rules of society. Be an oppositional jerk in your own home.

DP. Yes, vaccines for those eligible, masking, and following all guidance for schools. I’m sensing, though, a subtle shift, now, toward gentle bullying of those who are hesitating about asymptomatic testing.

I won't be subtle.

I have zero patience for selfish people who can't do the most basic things to keep our kids in school.

Vaccinate, mask, test.

all of these things are not the same. And asking to discuss them does not make people 'selfish'.

vaccinate- sure that's an easy one. Do it.

Mask-- well, its probably a good idea, but it does come with a cost. so much communication is lost when you speak through masks. Is that outweighed by the benefits to wearing masks? Probably... but asking to discuss it, or wanting research, etc- does not make someone 'selfish' or suggest they aren't willing to do 'basic things.'

test? test asymptomatic? that are unlikely to be spreading? and leads to lots of needless quarantines? that's a whole new kettle of fish.

Yes, per the CDC, Arlington currently has "substantial" community transmission:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view

therefore the CDC recommends screening of students at least weekly:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/operation-strategy.html#anchor_1616080181070

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would rather risk unchecked spread for the extra 5 minutes of learning that might be lost if they don't pull kids out during lunch? All of us that watched the last 1.5 years go down know full well there is a huge amount of filler in the school day. I'm OK with my kids missing some of that filler in order to be sure they aren't unknowingly spreading to their classmates or teachers.

Spreading to teachers? Those teachers are mandated to be vaccinated. Are you one of these anti-vaxxers that think vaccines don't work? This is exactly why they were put to the front of the line to get a vaccine!

I'm not an anti-vaxxer at all, but where have you been the last month? Vaccinated people are getting this. I will give up 5 minutes of my kids learning during a week to get them tested to make sure they are not unknowingly positive and spreading the virus...what exactly is your problem?

COVID is not going away. There's not going to be Zero COVID. And vaccinated people are getting the equivalent of a cold or less. That is the purpose of vaccination.

It sounds like you're saying vaccines don't work then. Stop with the anti-vax, stay in your home forever nonsense. It's causing people to not get vaccinated.

Not to hijack the thread but this isn't true. They're getting "mild" illness, which just means you don't need to be hospitalized. But you may be as sick as you've ever been in your life. Not just a bad cold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would rather risk unchecked spread for the extra 5 minutes of learning that might be lost if they don't pull kids out during lunch? All of us that watched the last 1.5 years go down know full well there is a huge amount of filler in the school day. I'm OK with my kids missing some of that filler in order to be sure they aren't unknowingly spreading to their classmates or teachers.

Spreading to teachers? Those teachers are mandated to be vaccinated. Are you one of these anti-vaxxers that think vaccines don't work? This is exactly why they were put to the front of the line to get a vaccine!

I'm not an anti-vaxxer at all, but where have you been the last month? Vaccinated people are getting this. I will give up 5 minutes of my kids learning during a week to get them tested to make sure they are not unknowingly positive and spreading the virus...what exactly is your problem?

COVID is not going away. There's not going to be Zero COVID. And vaccinated people are getting the equivalent of a cold or less. That is the purpose of vaccination.

It sounds like you're saying vaccines don't work then. Stop with the anti-vax, stay in your home forever nonsense. It's causing people to not get vaccinated.

Not to hijack the thread but this isn't true. They're getting "mild" illness, which just means you don't need to be hospitalized. But you may be as sick as you've ever been in your life. Not just a bad cold.

some people are getting as sick as they've ever been in their life. That is hardly what is happening to most vaccinated people, or most children. My son had mild covid. He had a low grade fever lasting less than 24 hours, and chills. No cough (even though he has moderate asthma) no other symptoms. No spread to his unvaccinated siblings, or his vaccinated parents. This is the MOST LIKELY scenario.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington, where life is viewed as a zero sum game.

Arlington, where a few noisy people think "health" consists solely of prevention of a respiratory virus that we have very successful vaccines for and healthy kids under 12 are at less risk of complications for than the seasonal flu. Plus, that prevention must come at the expense of the infinite number of other aspects of physical health and mental health (including academics and social development)

The most mentally taxing aspect of the pandemic has turned out to be dealing with anti-vaxers, anti-maskers, anti-testers, etc.

Keep your kid home if you can't abide by basic rules of society. Be an oppositional jerk in your own home.

DP. Yes, vaccines for those eligible, masking, and following all guidance for schools. I’m sensing, though, a subtle shift, now, toward gentle bullying of those who are hesitating about asymptomatic testing.

I won't be subtle.

I have zero patience for selfish people who can't do the most basic things to keep our kids in school.

Vaccinate, mask, test.

all of these things are not the same. And asking to discuss them does not make people 'selfish'.

vaccinate- sure that's an easy one. Do it.

Mask-- well, its probably a good idea, but it does come with a cost. so much communication is lost when you speak through masks. Is that outweighed by the benefits to wearing masks? Probably... but asking to discuss it, or wanting research, etc- does not make someone 'selfish' or suggest they aren't willing to do 'basic things.'

test? test asymptomatic? that are unlikely to be spreading? and leads to lots of needless quarantines? that's a whole new kettle of fish.

Yes, per the CDC, Arlington currently has "substantial" community transmission:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view

therefore the CDC recommends screening of students at least weekly:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/operation-strategy.html#anchor_1616080181070

From the material you quoted CDC DOES NOT recommend screening students at least weekly. It says "Some schools may also elect to use screening testing as a strategy to identify cases and prevent secondary tran"

cdc is very tentative on the benefits of screening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would rather risk unchecked spread for the extra 5 minutes of learning that might be lost if they don't pull kids out during lunch? All of us that watched the last 1.5 years go down know full well there is a huge amount of filler in the school day. I'm OK with my kids missing some of that filler in order to be sure they aren't unknowingly spreading to their classmates or teachers.

Spreading to teachers? Those teachers are mandated to be vaccinated. Are you one of these anti-vaxxers that think vaccines don't work? This is exactly why they were put to the front of the line to get a vaccine!

I'm not an anti-vaxxer at all, but where have you been the last month? Vaccinated people are getting this. I will give up 5 minutes of my kids learning during a week to get them tested to make sure they are not unknowingly positive and spreading the virus...what exactly is your problem?

COVID is not going away. There's not going to be Zero COVID. And vaccinated people are getting the equivalent of a cold or less. That is the purpose of vaccination.

It sounds like you're saying vaccines don't work then. Stop with the anti-vax, stay in your home forever nonsense. It's causing people to not get vaccinated.

Not to hijack the thread but this isn't true. They're getting "mild" illness, which just means you don't need to be hospitalized. But you may be as sick as you've ever been in your life. Not just a bad cold.

some people are getting as sick as they've ever been in their life. That is hardly what is happening to most vaccinated people, or most children. My son had mild covid. He had a low grade fever lasting less than 24 hours, and chills. No cough (even though he has moderate asthma) no other symptoms. No spread to his unvaccinated siblings, or his vaccinated parents. This is the MOST LIKELY scenario.

When was this? Delta?