Why is redshirting so rare if it's so advantageous?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My June baby was ready for kindergarten. So we put her in kindergarten

I was asking about kids with Fall birthdays. It wouldn't really make sense to hold back someone with a June birthday seeing as how they're already on the older half by default.

I assume pp means her child turned 5 in June and they sent her to k at age 5. Therefore, she is on the younger side for the class.

Op, it's already been said, but most kids will turn 6 in Kindergarten. Redshirting a fall birthday child means they would already be 6 when they enter K, and turn 7 right at the beginning of the school year. That seems like a significant difference--your 7 year old would be in class with 5 year olds. You're asking why people don't do that? Because it's not how we do school here. 7 year olds will have a hard time making friends with 5 year olds, or their maturity level will be brought down to the 5yo level.

Literally what are you even talking about, and what school did you attend that apparently did not teach you basic mathematics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My June baby was ready for kindergarten. So we put her in kindergarten

I was asking about kids with Fall birthdays. It wouldn't really make sense to hold back someone with a June birthday seeing as how they're already on the older half by default.

I assume pp means her child turned 5 in June and they sent her to k at age 5. Therefore, she is on the younger side for the class.

Op, it's already been said, but most kids will turn 6 in Kindergarten. Redshirting a fall birthday child means they would already be 6 when they enter K, and turn 7 right at the beginning of the school year. That seems like a significant difference--your 7 year old would be in class with 5 year olds. You're asking why people don't do that? Because it's not how we do school here. 7 year olds will have a hard time making friends with 5 year olds, or their maturity level will be brought down to the 5yo level.

Literally what are you even talking about, and what school did you attend that apparently did not teach you basic mathematics?

Uhh... the pp was correct. June BDs generally should have about ~75% of class being older than they are (those born from the prior Oct through May)... the only younger students are those who were born in July-Sep.

[Anonymous]

I know a lot of high stat kids and none of them are redshirted. On the contrary most are greenshirted (young for their grade level). I think those kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year.

[Anonymous]

Being older than others in your classroom is embarrassing. Especially if your reach puberty before everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being older than others in your classroom is embarrassing. Especially if your reach puberty before everyone else.

I don't think a 30-year-old making a 7-figure salary is going to care, or even remember, that they were embarrassed in school. I think the magnitude of the success of redshirted kids is, in the long-run, greater than the magnitude of any embarrassment they might experience, especially seeing as how they don't have to share their age with anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My June baby was ready for kindergarten. So we put her in kindergarten

I was asking about kids with Fall birthdays. It wouldn't really make sense to hold back someone with a June birthday seeing as how they're already on the older half by default.

I assume pp means her child turned 5 in June and they sent her to k at age 5. Therefore, she is on the younger side for the class.

Op, it's already been said, but most kids will turn 6 in Kindergarten. Redshirting a fall birthday child means they would already be 6 when they enter K, and turn 7 right at the beginning of the school year. That seems like a significant difference--your 7 year old would be in class with 5 year olds. You're asking why people don't do that? Because it's not how we do school here. 7 year olds will have a hard time making friends with 5 year olds, or their maturity level will be brought down to the 5yo level.

Literally what are you even talking about, and what school did you attend that apparently did not teach you basic mathematics?

Uhh... the pp was correct. June BDs generally should have about ~75% of class being older than they are (those born from the prior Oct through May)... the only younger students are those who were born in July-Sep.

Uhh no. The PP is not smart and says the June birthdays are the older half. Someone is presuming the classroom is on a calendar year with a 12/31 cut off. If the cutoff is in the fall they are younger. Her default is not really anyone’s default.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Being older than others in your classroom is embarrassing. Especially if your reach puberty before everyone else.

I don't think a 30-year-old making a 7-figure salary is going to care, or even remember, that they were embarrassed in school. I think the magnitude of the success of redshirted kids is, in the long-run, greater than the magnitude of any embarrassment they might experience, especially seeing as how they don't have to share their age with anyone.

Where are you getting your info?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of high stat kids and none of them are redshirted. On the contrary most are greenshirted (young for their grade level). I think those kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year.

+1 Kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year, and parents and kids know how this works. So, every kid held back will, unfortunately, carry that stigma. Think of your own school years; you remember exactly the kids who were held back and why. You may say things are different now because of this or that. Refer to your current list of kids who have been held back and think about how you think of them. Don't do this to your children unless they need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of high stat kids and none of them are redshirted. On the contrary most are greenshirted (young for their grade level). I think those kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year.

+1 Kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year, and parents and kids know how this works. So, every kid held back will, unfortunately, carry that stigma. Think of your own school years; you remember exactly the kids who were held back and why. You may say things are different now because of this or that. Refer to your current list of kids who have been held back and think about how you think of them. Don't do this to your children unless they need it.

That won't be a problem if they don't share their age with anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of high stat kids and none of them are redshirted. On the contrary most are greenshirted (young for their grade level). I think those kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year.

+1 Kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year, and parents and kids know how this works. So, every kid held back will, unfortunately, carry that stigma. Think of your own school years; you remember exactly the kids who were held back and why. You may say things are different now because of this or that. Refer to your current list of kids who have been held back and think about how you think of them. Don't do this to your children unless they need it.

That won't be a problem if they don't share their age with anyone else.

Really. So no birthday parties?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of high stat kids and none of them are redshirted. On the contrary most are greenshirted (young for their grade level). I think those kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year.

+1 Kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year, and parents and kids know how this works. So, every kid held back will, unfortunately, carry that stigma. Think of your own school years; you remember exactly the kids who were held back and why. You may say things are different now because of this or that. Refer to your current list of kids who have been held back and think about how you think of them. Don't do this to your children unless they need it.

That won't be a problem if they don't share their age with anyone else.

I promise you every kid knows the ages of the other kids from birthday parties, etc. I suppose you could devise a plan such that your child's true age was never shared with anyone, but that would be an act or pure evil.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My June baby was ready for kindergarten. So we put her in kindergarten

I was asking about kids with Fall birthdays. It wouldn't really make sense to hold back someone with a June birthday seeing as how they're already on the older half by default.

I assume pp means her child turned 5 in June and they sent her to k at age 5. Therefore, she is on the younger side for the class.

Op, it's already been said, but most kids will turn 6 in Kindergarten. Redshirting a fall birthday child means they would already be 6 when they enter K, and turn 7 right at the beginning of the school year. That seems like a significant difference--your 7 year old would be in class with 5 year olds. You're asking why people don't do that? Because it's not how we do school here. 7 year olds will have a hard time making friends with 5 year olds, or their maturity level will be brought down to the 5yo level.

Literally what are you even talking about, and what school did you attend that apparently did not teach you basic mathematics?

Uhh... the pp was correct. June BDs generally should have about ~75% of class being older than they are (those born from the prior Oct through May)... the only younger students are those who were born in July-Sep.

Uhh… I was talking about that a redshirted fall birthday would turn 7 in K. That is NOT accurate. A redshirted fall birthday would start K at 5, and turn 6 shortly into the school year. They wouldn’t turn 7 until 1st. You’d have to do “double redshirting” to get a kindergartner turning 7 at the beginning of the year. Calendars are hard, I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My June baby was ready for kindergarten. So we put her in kindergarten

I was asking about kids with Fall birthdays. It wouldn't really make sense to hold back someone with a June birthday seeing as how they're already on the older half by default.

I assume pp means her child turned 5 in June and they sent her to k at age 5. Therefore, she is on the younger side for the class.

Op, it's already been said, but most kids will turn 6 in Kindergarten. Redshirting a fall birthday child means they would already be 6 when they enter K, and turn 7 right at the beginning of the school year. That seems like a significant difference--your 7 year old would be in class with 5 year olds. You're asking why people don't do that? Because it's not how we do school here. 7 year olds will have a hard time making friends with 5 year olds, or their maturity level will be brought down to the 5yo level.

Literally what are you even talking about, and what school did you attend that apparently did not teach you basic mathematics?

Uhh... the pp was correct. June BDs generally should have about ~75% of class being older than they are (those born from the prior Oct through May)... the only younger students are those who were born in July-Sep.

Uhh… I was talking about that a redshirted fall birthday would turn 7 in K. That is NOT accurate. A redshirted fall birthday would start K at 5, and turn 6 shortly into the school year. They wouldn’t turn 7 until 1st. You’d have to do “double redshirting” to get a kindergartner turning 7 at the beginning of the year. Calendars are hard, I know.

You make zero sense. My kids were not redshirted and were 5 going on 6 in the fall of kindergarten. 5 is simply the age most if not all kids start kindergarten. A redshirted kid would likely have a summer birthday and be 6 at the start of the school year. I swear, some of you seem to have no understanding what redshirted means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of high stat kids and none of them are redshirted. On the contrary most are greenshirted (young for their grade level). I think those kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year.

+1 Kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year, and parents and kids know how this works. So, every kid held back will, unfortunately, carry that stigma. Think of your own school years; you remember exactly the kids who were held back and why. You may say things are different now because of this or that. Refer to your current list of kids who have been held back and think about how you think of them. Don't do this to your children unless they need it.

Its not the same as it was when kids were "held back" (failed a grade) in the 1970s. It is normal and accepted for kids to start in one year OR the next. Kids don't think about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of high stat kids and none of them are redshirted. On the contrary most are greenshirted (young for their grade level). I think those kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year.

+1 Kids who are redshirted usually need that extra year, and parents and kids know how this works. So, every kid held back will, unfortunately, carry that stigma. Think of your own school years; you remember exactly the kids who were held back and why. You may say things are different now because of this or that. Refer to your current list of kids who have been held back and think about how you think of them. Don't do this to your children unless they need it.

Its not the same as it was when kids were "held back" (failed a grade) in the 1970s. It is normal and accepted for kids to start in one year OR the next. Kids don't think about it.

Yes, kids think about it and talk about it.