Teachers union says schools "must" be fully reopened in the fall

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- Get everyone vaccinated, so that those who can not get vaccinated for medical or religious reasons can also be safe.
- Get everyone wearing masks based on where they are in the school.
- Maintain social distance in the class room between desks. Allow kids who bring lunch to eat in the classroom or outdoors instead of crowded cafeterias.
- Leave the virtual option open for families that are travelling, kids who are unwell, for schools that need to close because of outbreaks, and for snow days.
- Leave schools open for the whole year so that closing it for some period of time due to any emergency does not result in loss of learning.
- Fix the air conditioning and heating, install solar panels, so that we can avoid airborne contagions.
- Insist on flu shots, booster shots in school for every one including the parents.

Yes, we must reopen the schools and we must also do every thing that the schools do not close. If that means vaccinations, masking, social distancing, temp checks etc then so be it.

Also, while we are doing all of this, it would be great if we could have metal detectors, more CCTV and other solutions in place to even curb gun violence and mass shootings in school.

There is no good way to keep social distancing in overcrowded schools. I don't want my child rushing back. I hope they offer virtual. Its not fair not to provide an education to those of us who don't feel its safe given there is no mandatory testing, optional masks, etc and kids aren't vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

The solutions that will curb gun violence are to recognize that Antonin Scalia invented a fake individual right to guns, out of whole cloth, because he was part of a Republican Party that uses gun identity politics to get votes for their party.

Scalia and the other four GOP judges that voted for that committed a “fraud on the American public”, as extreme conservative Chief Justice Warren Burger put it.

And Scalia and the other fed soc judges continue to get people killed in schools.

Forget the metal detectors. Destroy the modern GOP if you want to save lives in schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

what the f are you rambling about?

Go raise your kids

Do your job!!

Teachers have been doing their jobs, so no hysterical "do your job!!!" retorts required. The standards of their employment are set by their employers, not you.

P.S. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a teacher. Stop embarrassing yourself with your stupid assumptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

It’s almost as if those inside the organization have more awareness of what actually took place than a riled up group of parents on a message board, who believe everything that was fed to them from Bowser and WaPo

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

There was a sick out. Teachers called out sick to protest school opening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

There was a sick out. Teachers called out sick to protest school opening.

The school reopening that teachers protested with their sick out would’ve led to 40+ person virtual classes for kindergartners with no guarantees of CDC protocols being met, and the possibility that your child may be taught reading by the Spanish teacher. Seems like it was worth it to force DCPS to actually interact with schools and parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

There was a sick out. Teachers called out sick to protest school opening.

The school reopening that teachers protested with their sick out would’ve led to 40+ person virtual classes for kindergartners with no guarantees of CDC protocols being met, and the possibility that your child may be taught reading by the Spanish teacher. Seems like it was worth it to force DCPS to actually interact with schools and parents.

Yeah. That November plan was a terrible plan for most students. Ferebee and Bowser are to blame for that one.

But overall, the WTU has been hysterical and self-obsessed, as though teachers are somehow uniquely precious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

Teachers did not refuse to go to work in August. Teachers were not asked by the Union or by DCPS whether they wanted or were able to come in starting in August. Teachers themselves had no agency in the decisions. Schools didn’t open in August because the mayor and DCPS couldn’t get their act together to execute an opening plan. In addition none of the other local school districts opened then.

Teachers did not get a chance to act in any capacity individually until late in the fall. That is when the single day sick out happened. At that point the mayor had already scrapped any plans for hybrid and changed the plan to bring in only a small number of elementary students. Many teacher ms who participated did so because the mayors plan at that point was highly disruptive in terms of most elementary student classes getting shuffled to serve only a fraction of students in person. This was also right as cases started climbing again. Also the WTU legal challenges had far more to do with that plan getting scrapped than the sick out.

Teachers have no choice about being represented by the WTU. Teachers do not vote on union actions like legal challenges. If DCPS central and the mayor had at any point out together a solid, well communicated opening plan and stuck with it school would have happened.

oh wtf. what a load of history-rewriting, self-serving nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

There was a sick out. Teachers called out sick to protest school opening.

The school reopening that teachers protested with their sick out would’ve led to 40+ person virtual classes for kindergartners with no guarantees of CDC protocols being met, and the possibility that your child may be taught reading by the Spanish teacher. Seems like it was worth it to force DCPS to actually interact with schools and parents.

Yeah. That November plan was a terrible plan for most students. Ferebee and Bowser are to blame for that one.

But overall, the WTU has been hysterical and self-obsessed, as though teachers are somehow uniquely precious.

No, it wasn’t a terrible plan. It was the first step in showing kids could return safely and it was to support the kids who needed to be in school. The WTU freaked out about safety (scaring Ward 7 and 8 parents, which still has repercussions) and a handful of dog-in-the-manger Nice White Parents showed they really only care about themselves and tanked the plan. Mysteriously, those same parents were quite ready to bulldoze their way into school for T4 and no longer cared about switching teachers, which had been so UNTHINKABLE before!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

Yeah, you have no idea whah people at your school think because they are scared to speak up. You can’t erase the fact that in November my child’s teachers - his actual teachers - went on strike specifically to keep him and the other kids with IEPs out of the classroom. But go on and reduce that to a caricature because it doesn’t match your little self-serving bubble. Like it or not DCUM is where you will actually hear what people think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

There was a sick out. Teachers called out sick to protest school opening.

The school reopening that teachers protested with their sick out would’ve led to 40+ person virtual classes for kindergartners with no guarantees of CDC protocols being met, and the possibility that your child may be taught reading by the Spanish teacher. Seems like it was worth it to force DCPS to actually interact with schools and parents.

Thanks WTU flunky. You can’t erase history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

Yeah, you have no idea whah people at your school think because they are scared to speak up. You can’t erase the fact that in November my child’s teachers - his actual teachers - went on strike specifically to keep him and the other kids with IEPs out of the classroom. But go on and reduce that to a caricature because it doesn’t match your little self-serving bubble. Like it or not DCUM is where you will actually hear what people think.

I agree. I now treat all parents as if they think I am useless trash. It really is a sad development but this has whole thing has pointed out to me what people really think when they are at home. Oh well