Question about Woodward High School and Kensington/Garrett Park real estate

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But RHES, as you call it, would have be a Focus school and therefore have smaller class sizes. Isn’t that an enormous benefit?

If RHES were a Focus school, then it would be a high-poverty school. Do you think that 18 students in K-2, 26 students in 3, and 28 students in 4-5 -- compared to 25, 27, and 29, respectively -- would outweigh the disadvantages of being a high-poverty school? Would you choose to send your child there?

Many people believe that it is worth it in the lower grades because the benefits of lower class sizes are greater then and the disadvantages that come with higher-poverty schools are less important/pronounced in early elementary.

I’m thinking about it from the perspective of the student whose family is below the poverty line. Are they more benefited from going to a school with small class sizes? Or a school where some of their classmates have Teslas in the driveway? I would think the small class sizes 100%.

And your first-hand experience with the perspectives of families below the poverty line is...?

Growing up in a poor family. Gerrymandering that school to decrease the percentage of FARMS students absolutely denies resources (in the form of smaller class sizes) to higher need students.

Yup, that 1 less student per class class-size cap is such a huge benefit to higher-need students that it totally justifies sticking students from low-income families into a segregated high-poverty school.

[Anonymous]

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But RHES, as you call it, would have be a Focus school and therefore have smaller class sizes. Isn’t that an enormous benefit?

If RHES were a Focus school, then it would be a high-poverty school. Do you think that 18 students in K-2, 26 students in 3, and 28 students in 4-5 -- compared to 25, 27, and 29, respectively -- would outweigh the disadvantages of being a high-poverty school? Would you choose to send your child there?

Many people believe that it is worth it in the lower grades because the benefits of lower class sizes are greater then and the disadvantages that come with higher-poverty schools are less important/pronounced in early elementary.

I’m thinking about it from the perspective of the student whose family is below the poverty line. Are they more benefited from going to a school with small class sizes? Or a school where some of their classmates have Teslas in the driveway? I would think the small class sizes 100%.

And your first-hand experience with the perspectives of families below the poverty line is...?

Growing up in a poor family. Gerrymandering that school to decrease the percentage of FARMS students absolutely denies resources (in the form of smaller class sizes) to higher need students.

Yup, that 1 less student per class class-size cap is such a huge benefit to higher-need students that it totally justifies sticking students from low-income families into a segregated high-poverty school.

Actually 7 students. That’s a huge benefit in the early years. It doesn’t drop to a 1 student difference until third grade. Please stop spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous]

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But RHES, as you call it, would have be a Focus school and therefore have smaller class sizes. Isn’t that an enormous benefit?

If RHES were a Focus school, then it would be a high-poverty school. Do you think that 18 students in K-2, 26 students in 3, and 28 students in 4-5 -- compared to 25, 27, and 29, respectively -- would outweigh the disadvantages of being a high-poverty school? Would you choose to send your child there?

Many people believe that it is worth it in the lower grades because the benefits of lower class sizes are greater then and the disadvantages that come with higher-poverty schools are less important/pronounced in early elementary.

I’m thinking about it from the perspective of the student whose family is below the poverty line. Are they more benefited from going to a school with small class sizes? Or a school where some of their classmates have Teslas in the driveway? I would think the small class sizes 100%.

And your first-hand experience with the perspectives of families below the poverty line is...?

Growing up in a poor family. Gerrymandering that school to decrease the percentage of FARMS students absolutely denies resources (in the form of smaller class sizes) to higher need students.

Yup, that 1 less student per class class-size cap is such a huge benefit to higher-need students that it totally justifies sticking students from low-income families into a segregated high-poverty school.

Actually 7 students. That’s a huge benefit in the early years. It doesn’t drop to a 1 student difference until third grade. Please stop spreading misinformation.

And a 9 student difference 1st and 2nd grade.

[Anonymous]

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Actually 7 students. That’s a huge benefit in the early years. It doesn’t drop to a 1 student difference until third grade. Please stop spreading misinformation.

7 fewer students in K-2. 1 fewer student in 3-5. Which is half of elementary school.

[Anonymous]

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Actually 7 students. That’s a huge benefit in the early years. It doesn’t drop to a 1 student difference until third grade. Please stop spreading misinformation.

7 fewer students in K-2. 1 fewer student in 3-5. Which is half of elementary school.

7 fewer in K. 9 fewer in 1-2. 1 fewer in 3-5. The reason the Focus schools prioritize smaller class sizes in younger grades is because it’s a huge benefit to have a small class size when you’re teaching fundamentals like reading for kids with different backgrounds and skills in the subject. Wealthy parents understand this. That’s why expensive private schools have small classes and 2 teachers!

[Anonymous]

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Actually 7 students. That’s a huge benefit in the early years. It doesn’t drop to a 1 student difference until third grade. Please stop spreading misinformation.

7 fewer students in K-2. 1 fewer student in 3-5. Which is half of elementary school.

7 fewer in K. 9 fewer in 1-2. 1 fewer in 3-5. The reason the Focus schools prioritize smaller class sizes in younger grades is because it’s a huge benefit to have a small class size when you’re teaching fundamentals like reading for kids with different backgrounds and skills in the subject. Wealthy parents understand this. That’s why expensive private schools have small classes and 2 teachers!

The very best thing for kids from low-income families at Rosemary Hills is a high-poverty school with smaller class sizes in K-2!

-says the poster from Chevy Chase

[Anonymous]

OK here are all these "high poverty" families that attend RHPS living? Rents and housing prices in that area aren't cheap.

[Anonymous]

where not here, sorry

[Anonymous]

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Actually 7 students. That’s a huge benefit in the early years. It doesn’t drop to a 1 student difference until third grade. Please stop spreading misinformation.

7 fewer students in K-2. 1 fewer student in 3-5. Which is half of elementary school.

7 fewer in K. 9 fewer in 1-2. 1 fewer in 3-5. The reason the Focus schools prioritize smaller class sizes in younger grades is because it’s a huge benefit to have a small class size when you’re teaching fundamentals like reading for kids with different backgrounds and skills in the subject. Wealthy parents understand this. That’s why expensive private schools have small classes and 2 teachers!

The very best thing for kids from low-income families at Rosemary Hills is a high-poverty school with smaller class sizes in K-2!

-says the poster from Chevy Chase

“The very best thing for kids from low-income families is for them to be in close proximity to wealthy people but deny them additional resources that would be actually helpful”

-says the poster from Bethesda

[Anonymous]

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“The very best thing for kids from low-income families is for them to be in close proximity to wealthy people but deny them additional resources that would be actually helpful”

-says the poster from Bethesda

Why would posters from Bethesda, specifically, be in favor of maintaining the Rosemary Hills K-2 school model that includes Chevy Chase? I don't live in Bethesda. Please explain.

[Anonymous]

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“The very best thing for kids from low-income families is for them to be in close proximity to wealthy people but deny them additional resources that would be actually helpful”

-says the poster from Bethesda

Why would posters from Bethesda, specifically, be in favor of maintaining the Rosemary Hills K-2 school model that includes Chevy Chase? I don't live in Bethesda. Please explain.

It just strikes me as a NIMBY attitude, which Bethesda is full of. My apologies if you’re a RHPS parent. But you made assumptions about me and my motivations as well. If the community as a whole wants to keep the arrangement, that’s fine. I’m just pointing out there is another side to this issue that I only just learned (smaller class sizes for focus schools, and RHPS does not qualify because of how the borders are drawn).

[Anonymous]

OK here are all these "high poverty" families that attend RHPS living? Rents and housing prices in that area aren't cheap.

This is what I am wondering. Silver Spring prices and getting BCC is an amazing deal. Prices could be depressed because of a stigma of living Silver Spring BUT it can't be that bad. Since BCC is far, far better than any other school in Silver Spring it should be the most expensive area in Silver Spring.

I don't understand how RHPS can have low income families. Is there a subsidized apartment building that only allows low income residents, homeless shelter, or halfway house for ex cons with children or something?

[Anonymous]

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OK here are all these "high poverty" families that attend RHPS living? Rents and housing prices in that area aren't cheap.

This is what I am wondering. Silver Spring prices and getting BCC is an amazing deal. Prices could be depressed because of a stigma of living Silver Spring BUT it can't be that bad. Since BCC is far, far better than any other school in Silver Spring it should be the most expensive area in Silver Spring.

I don't understand how RHPS can have low income families. Is there a subsidized apartment building that only allows low income residents, homeless shelter, or halfway house for ex cons with children or something?

Yes - there is a large apartment complex on the east side of the school zone. I think the neighborhood with single-family homes is more middle-class. I assume there will be changes with a new Purple Line station as well (i.e., it will probably become more affluent).

[Anonymous]

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OK here are all these "high poverty" families that attend RHPS living? Rents and housing prices in that area aren't cheap.

This is what I am wondering. Silver Spring prices and getting BCC is an amazing deal. Prices could be depressed because of a stigma of living Silver Spring BUT it can't be that bad. Since BCC is far, far better than any other school in Silver Spring it should be the most expensive area in Silver Spring.

I don't understand how RHPS can have low income families. Is there a subsidized apartment building that only allows low income residents, homeless shelter, or halfway house for ex cons with children or something?

PP, look at a map. Here are the service areas, to get you started.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/RosemaryHillsNorthChevyChaseES.pdf
http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/RosemaryHillsChevyChaseES.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OK here are all these "high poverty" families that attend RHPS living? Rents and housing prices in that area aren't cheap.

This is what I am wondering. Silver Spring prices and getting BCC is an amazing deal. Prices could be depressed because of a stigma of living Silver Spring BUT it can't be that bad. Since BCC is far, far better than any other school in Silver Spring it should be the most expensive area in Silver Spring.

I don't understand how RHPS can have low income families. Is there a subsidized apartment building that only allows low income residents, homeless shelter, or halfway house for ex cons with children or something?

PP, look at a map. Here are the service areas, to get you started.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/RosemaryHillsNorthChevyChaseES.pdf
http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/RosemaryHillsChevyChaseES.pdf

Geographically, isn’t it odd to split the eastern side of the school zone when the schools split to CC/NCC? Shouldn’t the whole area move on to NCC since it’s north of EW Highway, and also because NCC has more space?