Question about Woodward High School and Kensington/Garrett Park real estate

[Anonymous]

This is what I am wondering. Silver Spring prices and getting BCC is an amazing deal. Prices could be depressed because of a stigma of living Silver Spring BUT it can't be that bad. Since BCC is far, far better than any other school in Silver Spring it should be the most expensive area in Silver Spring.

I don't understand how RHPS can have low income families. Is there a subsidized apartment building that only allows low income residents, homeless shelter, or halfway house for ex cons with children or something?


Yes - there is a large apartment complex on the east side of the school zone. I think the neighborhood with single-family homes is more middle-class. I assume there will be changes with a new Purple Line station as well (i.e., it will probably become more affluent).

I'm really scratching my head as to why it isn't already affluent? It feeds into a far better school than the areas around it. I can understand why you would pay Chevy Chase prices for that area but it should still be much higher than it is.

[Anonymous]

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This is what I am wondering. Silver Spring prices and getting BCC is an amazing deal. Prices could be depressed because of a stigma of living Silver Spring BUT it can't be that bad. Since BCC is far, far better than any other school in Silver Spring it should be the most expensive area in Silver Spring.

I don't understand how RHPS can have low income families. Is there a subsidized apartment building that only allows low income residents, homeless shelter, or halfway house for ex cons with children or something?


Yes - there is a large apartment complex on the east side of the school zone. I think the neighborhood with single-family homes is more middle-class. I assume there will be changes with a new Purple Line station as well (i.e., it will probably become more affluent).

I'm really scratching my head as to why it isn't already affluent? It feeds into a far better school than the areas around it. I can understand why you would pay Chevy Chase prices for that area but it should still be much higher than it is.

Because there's more to housing prices than schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This is what I am wondering. Silver Spring prices and getting BCC is an amazing deal. Prices could be depressed because of a stigma of living Silver Spring BUT it can't be that bad. Since BCC is far, far better than any other school in Silver Spring it should be the most expensive area in Silver Spring.

I don't understand how RHPS can have low income families. Is there a subsidized apartment building that only allows low income residents, homeless shelter, or halfway house for ex cons with children or something?


Yes - there is a large apartment complex on the east side of the school zone. I think the neighborhood with single-family homes is more middle-class. I assume there will be changes with a new Purple Line station as well (i.e., it will probably become more affluent).

I'm really scratching my head as to why it isn't already affluent? It feeds into a far better school than the areas around it. I can understand why you would pay Chevy Chase prices for that area but it should still be much higher than it is.

It is a good deal - values will increase when the Purple Line comes in. Very unlikely to get rezoned out of BCC.

[Anonymous]

The only thing holding the area is back is pride and insecurity ie people who do not like being considered the poorest in the school. There are lots of people who would rather be one of the richest in a bad school than one of the poorest people in a really good school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only thing holding the area is back is pride and insecurity ie people who do not like being considered the poorest in the school. There are lots of people who would rather be one of the richest in a bad school than one of the poorest people in a really good school.

I don’t understand. Can you explain?

[Anonymous]

The person who spends about the same to buy a house on the Einstein rather than the BCC side in RHES is worried about their kids being the one of the poorer kids at BCC rather than the richer kids Einstein.

The same thing happens all the time between Wootton and Churchill. People will actually choose Wootton over Churchill because they are intimidated about the wealth at Churchil and don't want their kids to feel like a lower class citizen. Wootton and Churchill are on par academically unlike the huge gap in academic between BCC and Einstein but its the same mentality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The person who spends about the same to buy a house on the Einstein rather than the BCC side in RHES is worried about their kids being the one of the poorer kids at BCC rather than the richer kids Einstein.

The same thing happens all the time between Wootton and Churchill. People will actually choose Wootton over Churchill because they are intimidated about the wealth at Churchil and don't want their kids to feel like a lower class citizen. Wootton and Churchill are on par academically unlike the huge gap in academic between BCC and Einstein but its the same mentality.

I see. If I were a builder, i'd try to put up some large homes in the neighborhood and see if you could attract people who want new construction, access to public transit and the same schools as someone in BCC Bethesda/Chevy Chase for about $800,000 less. Same with North Chevy Chase - I don't understand how that area still has $700,000 ranch houses on 8,000 square foot lots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The person who spends about the same to buy a house on the Einstein rather than the BCC side in RHES is worried about their kids being the one of the poorer kids at BCC rather than the richer kids Einstein.

The same thing happens all the time between Wootton and Churchill. People will actually choose Wootton over Churchill because they are intimidated about the wealth at Churchil and don't want their kids to feel like a lower class citizen. Wootton and Churchill are on par academically unlike the huge gap in academic between BCC and Einstein but its the same mentality.

According to whom? You?

People who can afford a $700,000 home aren't poor. I know it's hard to fathom, but there are those of us who prefer Silver Spring to Bethesda and Chevy Chase. Not everyone is intimidated by other people's wealth; they may prefer a more down to earth environment than what ultra-wealthy schools and neighborhoods provide. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always heard RHES was in Chevy Chase Section 8? Is it really in silver spring?

Yes, it’s in Silver Spring. You’re disgusting.

You are disgusting for calling the person disgusting. It was a joke.

Tasteless joke. “Chevy Chase Section 8” is a pretty gross thing to say.

People like to pretend that the eastern sections of Chevy Chase are just as nice and name drop Chevy Chase, their delusions are fine but to point them out is Gross? What a basic person you are. There is a reason it is called Grubby road

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The person who spends about the same to buy a house on the Einstein rather than the BCC side in RHES is worried about their kids being the one of the poorer kids at BCC rather than the richer kids Einstein.

The same thing happens all the time between Wootton and Churchill. People will actually choose Wootton over Churchill because they are intimidated about the wealth at Churchil and don't want their kids to feel like a lower class citizen. Wootton and Churchill are on par academically unlike the huge gap in academic between BCC and Einstein but its the same mentality.

Only people at Wootton think it is one the same level (at any level) as Churchill. There isn't one other person in the area who does.

[Anonymous]

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The person who spends about the same to buy a house on the Einstein rather than the BCC side in RHES is worried about their kids being the one of the poorer kids at BCC rather than the richer kids Einstein.

The same thing happens all the time between Wootton and Churchill. People will actually choose Wootton over Churchill because they are intimidated about the wealth at Churchil and don't want their kids to feel like a lower class citizen. Wootton and Churchill are on par academically unlike the huge gap in academic between BCC and Einstein but its the same mentality.


Only people at Wootton think it is one the same level (at any level) as Churchill. There isn't one other person in the area who does.

The last rankings put Wootton ahead of Churchill. Wootton sends more kids to the Blair SMACs program. STEM, band and music are far stronger at Wootton. Humanties and the visual arts are stronger at Churchill.

No one sees Churchill as an academic powerhouse just an extremely wealthy school with lots of tutors. The tutors are probably coming from Wootton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always heard RHES was in Chevy Chase Section 8? Is it really in silver spring?

Yes, it’s in Silver Spring. You’re disgusting.

You are disgusting for calling the person disgusting. It was a joke.

Tasteless joke. “Chevy Chase Section 8” is a pretty gross thing to say.

People like to pretend that the eastern sections of Chevy Chase are just as nice and name drop Chevy Chase, their delusions are fine but to point them out is Gross? What a basic person you are. There is a reason it is called Grubby road

I’m sorry, but you come across as really entitled. “Grubby” road? It’s classist and elitist.

[Anonymous]

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OK here are all these "high poverty" families that attend RHPS living? Rents and housing prices in that area aren't cheap.

This is what I am wondering. Silver Spring prices and getting BCC is an amazing deal. Prices could be depressed because of a stigma of living Silver Spring BUT it can't be that bad. Since BCC is far, far better than any other school in Silver Spring it should be the most expensive area in Silver Spring.

I don't understand how RHPS can have low income families. Is there a subsidized apartment building that only allows low income residents, homeless shelter, or halfway house for ex cons with children or something?

PP, look at a map. Here are the service areas, to get you started.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/RosemaryHillsNorthChevyChaseES.pdf
http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/RosemaryHillsChevyChaseES.pdf

Geographically, isn’t it odd to split the eastern side of the school zone when the schools split to CC/NCC? Shouldn’t the whole area move on to NCC since it’s north of EW Highway, and also because NCC has more space?

Yes, it's odd, geographically, but it was considered preferable, demographically, to send some of the apartment buildings to NCC and some to CC. (And the eastern-most Summit Hills buildings go to Woodlin.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK here are all these "high poverty" families that attend RHPS living? Rents and housing prices in that area aren't cheap.

Lyttonsville is a historically black community:

"The neighborhood changed very little in the first half of the 20th century and did not get running water and paved streets until a county redevelopment effort in the late 1960s and early 1970s, after years of residents’ lobbying."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/realestate/neighborhood-profile-lyttonsville/2012/07/25/gJQAfgNICX_story.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK here are all these "high poverty" families that attend RHPS living? Rents and housing prices in that area aren't cheap.

Lyttonsville is a historically black community:

"The neighborhood changed very little in the first half of the 20th century and did not get running water and paved streets until a county redevelopment effort in the late 1960s and early 1970s, after years of residents’ lobbying."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/realestate/neighborhood-profile-lyttonsville/2012/07/25/gJQAfgNICX_story.html

That's really eye opening. A mile from the wealth of Chevy Chase and houses didn't even have running water.